Posted by tkf:

Posted by Cosmic:

Well, let's be fair, Al Harrington got hammered a few times in that game and there was no call, Jeffries got called for a phantom offensive foul, and there were others... so I'm gunna say it balanced out in the end. It usually does overall.

I hate to say things balance out, because calls at different times have different effects as to the magnitude of the call.. But I do agree, Al was getting beat up all night and before duhon lost the ball out of bounds he was fouled. I say it's the equivalent of a guy comming over the back and the ref not making the call, but also not giving that team the ball, although the player being fouled knocked the ball out of bounds...

I think what it is TKF is the bad calls in clutch situations stand out.

For example, lets say the Knicks got away with goaltending in the 1st quarter which resulted in the opponent losing out on 2 points.

Now, it's the end of the game, it's tied, the knicks put up a layup, the opponent goaltends it, but no call. Now suddenly you feel OUTRAGE because it's in a crucial moment.

Yet, despite WHEN the opposing calls occurred, is it not a balance? It is.

Of course, it does not always work that way, there are always flat out screw jobs that no one can understand. No need to list them all as the list would be long....but I'll touch on a couple further down.

Yet, I think last night more so illustrates a legit balancing of bad calls more than either team getting screwed. However, the Cats might disagree, on the Duhon play towards the end. Even Duhon himself said he flat out lost the ball but then he recants and says "well I got fouled earlier so I guess it was a late call."

Well, again, whatever...as look back at Al getting smacked up at least 3 times no call, Jeffries phantom O call - I mean, that's four right there in the Cats favor. I'm quite sure we had 4 in our favor last night though.

One that will always stick in my mind however is the Knicks-Spurs finals. We're undermanned, Spree relentlessly attacks the rim, gets swatted but fouled numerous times by duncan and robinson - and - NO CALL. What happens? Spree stops attacking the rim. That was crap.

Need we remember the Heat-Mavs finals? You know, Dallas dominating, about to go up 3-0, but for whatever reason with 6 minutes left in the 4th of game 3 - the Mavs got zero calls and the Heat got phantom calls and no calls in their favor. Haslem smashing Dirk out of the way to "steal the ball". No call. The infamous Wade taking it over and back, then travelling, then shoving Harris to the ground, then palming in the corner, then initiating contact as he threw himself between two mavs towards the rim - only to what? Get 2 FTS to seal that game. LOL I mean please.... even about 1/3rd of the Heat fanbase knew that was bullcrap.

Since then the NBA has cleaned up a lot of it's act with purposeful BS calls. Yet, it's still a league that caters to shaping it's own product through it's own officials.

Anyone that thinks different is insane in my book.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Bippity10:

It's basketball. It's fast paced. Sometimes you won't get the benefit of the calls. Sometimes refs may actually "cost" you games. IT happens to everyone. Overall the officials do a good job.

Let me guess: Mike Breen is your favorite announcer.

That did sound like a Breenish thing to say.

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Bippity10:

It's basketball. It's fast paced. Sometimes you won't get the benefit of the calls. Sometimes refs may actually "cost" you games. IT happens to everyone. Overall the officials do a good job.

Let me guess: Mike Breen is your favorite announcer.

That did sound like a Breenish thing to say.

Is it true or not true? REfs have bad games so we make it out that they do this everynight, but generally they call a pretty good game. I know, I know, I'm not trashing officials so I must be in Stern's pocket.

Let me guess: Mike Breen is your favorite announcer.