Personally I believe [well among a few other things] that we need a true back up PG for Duhon to significantly cut down on his minutes. I truly believe we can get Marcus Williams on the cheap---aka Denver's 2nd round pick. I want to give this guy another shot here. I really do believe he can play. He wasnt very good at Uconn his first year but I think he can do the job here as a back up and hey maybe he might be a little better than that after playing some. Why not make the small move to help the team and preserve Duhon? Make GS throw a little cash back at us to absorb the salary.

You know there's a lot of evidence suggesting he's not gonna ever be a player but the Knicks could use a young, backup PG for a couple reasons:

1) Duhon needs more rest and is already overworked
2) If they can develop a decent point behind Duhon they could have a cost effective solution at the PG position in 2010 in case we are unable to re-sign Duhon.

So I'd certainly take a flyer on Marcus WIlliams. You may not even need to give up a pick. A trade exception would be enough to acquire him potentially.

Posted by VDesai:

You know there's a lot of evidence suggesting he's not gonna ever be a player but the Knicks could use a young, backup PG for a couple reasons:

1) Duhon needs more rest and is already overworked
2) If they can develop a decent point behind Duhon they could have a cost effective solution at the PG position in 2010 in case we are unable to re-sign Duhon.

So I'd certainly take a flyer on Marcus WIlliams. You may not even need to give up a pick. A trade exception would be enough to acquire him potentially.

He had a pretty good first year then hurt his foot and played down a bit in year 2. I think this Don Nelson guy--it almost doesnt matter what player it is--if you get on his bad side that is it. I remember Marcus picking the Knicks apart quite badly in a few games--I think given a reasonable chance here he would surprise.

Something even smaller that Nate?

Instead of signing Williams why not get what the KNicks need most that is a SG. Nate can handle PG duties. Get the medical exception for Mobley and look to sign Carlos Delpino from the Russian league. I'm not a Marcus Williams fan he had his chance. Besides we complain that Zach was a head case when he really wasn't so you want to take a chance on another head case. Guys we have to stop taking on other teams unwanted players like most on the board say there is a reason why they are unwanted by their respected teams.

Posted by Vmart:

Instead of signing Williams why not get what the KNicks need most that is a SG. Nate can handle PG duties. Get the medical exception for Mobley and look to sign Carlos Delpino from the Russian league. I'm not a Marcus Williams fan he had his chance. Besides we complain that Zach was a head case when he really wasn't so you want to take a chance on another head case. Guys we have to stop taking on other teams unwanted players like most on the board say there is a reason why they are unwanted by their respected teams.

I would not count anything going on in GS as being unwanted by any player. He was traded for a number 1 pick just 4 months ago. Today they haev a story on ESPN that Stephen Jackson wants to be traded--that makes Al Harrington Jackson Wright Bellinelli Randolph as players who have been put on the chopping block. Don Nelson is pulling a Larry brown--he signed his extension and now wants to cause trouble so they fire him--his rotations are confusing and he starts different players every night. I think Marcus can and would play good here. Hes a true past first PG and can help Duhon get 10-15 minutes rest. Nate is not a PG although he can play there. We actually could use a back up shooting guard/point guard and another big[although curry +Jeffreies should alleviate that] If we run Chris Duhon into the ground then it will be a rough last 40 games.

Posted by KNICKSdom:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally I believe [well among a few other things] that we need a true back up PG for Duhon to significantly cut down on his minutes. I truly believe we can get Marcus Williams on the cheap---aka Denver's 2nd round pick. I want to give this guy another shot here. I really do believe he can play. He wasnt very good at Uconn his first year but I think he can do the job here as a back up and hey maybe he might be a little better than that after playing some. Why not make the small move to help the team and preserve Duhon? Make GS throw a little cash back at us to absorb the salary.

It is better we go for Carlos Delfino. He would fit in better than Marcus Williams. Marcus had his chance, he hasn't proven anything with all the chances he get. And I'm an Uconn fan.

That's crazy. He's still too young and talented to think his career's over already. I totally agree with trying to get him if you're the Knicks. Either as part of a larger David Lee trade or with something smaller like the 2010 Denver 2nd rounder or the medical exception (prefer to use the exception). He makes sense for us because we have no idea if Duhon will be back after next season (with his lofty production this season, he's playing himself right into a nice pay raise, something close to what Nate Robinson will wind up getting probably (say in the $7 mil. dollar range annually). I don't know if we'll be able to swing that or if that's even worth it for us when their might be other opportunities that make more sense out there - Marcus Williams could be one of them). Totally in favor of bringing him here and giving him a chance though. You're absolutely right - he's a true PG that would be able to help keep Duhon as fresh as possible for the rest of the season. Williams on the Knicks is a no-brainer...

Just saw on ESPN that Jordan Farmar hurt himself and will have to get surgery (torn lateral meniscus in his left knee). Williams now makes a lot of sense for the Lakers. I wonder if LA shows any interest here...

[Edited by - finestrg on 12-24-2008 12:36 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally I believe [well among a few other things] that we need a true back up PG for Duhon to significantly cut down on his minutes. I truly believe we can get Marcus Williams on the cheap---aka Denver's 2nd round pick. I want to give this guy another shot here. I really do believe he can play. He wasnt very good at Uconn his first year but I think he can do the job here as a back up and hey maybe he might be a little better than that after playing some. Why not make the small move to help the team and preserve Duhon? Make GS throw a little cash back at us to absorb the salary.

I think that guys like Chuckie Atkins or Anthony Carter would be better fits to be honest. Both are old but short term both would be solid players this year because they both can score the ball a bit.

Who's minutes do we need to take away? I look at it in those terms.

Q at shooting guard would be the mins I'd go after first.

Maybe some of Timmay/Jeffries/Lee at center as well.

The rest of the positions are handled for who we are right now. If a really good player drops in our lap, that's different, but going after the Marcus Williams of the world is a waste at this point.