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BRIGGS
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12/21/2008  11:39 PM
6-9 245 and Big Al after his great start is shooting 32% over his last 4 games with a staggering 68 FGA's! How can you shoot that badly at that size? He's a slightly younger Tim Thomas
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12/21/2008  11:49 PM
Yeah. Right around this time you begin to say hey, why is he taking that shot. See Indiana, Atlanta, Indiana and Oakland.
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12/21/2008  11:53 PM
He's a 2 year rental. He keeps telling himself he is going to be here in 2 years, but he won't be. And most likely, neither will lebron. And this team will still suck, with or without harrington.
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12/21/2008  11:55 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Yeah. Right around this time you begin to say hey, why is he taking that shot. See Indiana, Atlanta, Indiana and Oakland.

He should post up more. Someone shouldve mentioned that to him 10 years ago. Is this is how we are going to make our team? Find every player who can shoot 3s over 6-8 and bunch them together so they can take 40 a game? Yes we'll look exciting some nights!
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12/22/2008  12:08 AM
I'd like to think we have something between the guy that was unconscious and the one that has crashed to earth.

Biggest problem with trading Crawford is we should have found a way to get a first round pick out of the deal.
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12/22/2008  12:13 AM
Posted by franco12:

I'd like to think we have something between the guy that was unconscious and the one that has crashed to earth.

Biggest problem with trading Crawford is we should have found a way to get a first round pick out of the deal.

We didn't.

Move on.

If Harrington plays well for us in his stay, we may get one when we trade him.




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12/22/2008  12:15 AM
This system will continue to fool our fans all the way to game 82 end result, looking at a mediocre lottery pick.

I'm not too found of his rebounding nor ast numbers. 265FGA in 14gms as a Knick=19FGA/gm. Kobe takes 20/gm.

I guess Don Nelson was correct, Al thinks he's a Superstar.


[Edited by - GallOfFame on 12-22-2008 12:17 AM]
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Posted by franco12:

I'd like to think we have something between the guy that was unconscious and the one that has crashed to earth.

Biggest problem with trading Crawford is we should have found a way to get a first round pick out of the deal.

I'd like to think we could use Al in a post up game but that is not ball. He wants to have the lanes open for dribble drive kick and shoot pick and roll--if you have someone posting down--it kind of clogs the system. But if you dont post--your degree of difficulty becomes higher.

Really we need 4 guards and one post but the post player needs to be bigger than David.

I think Dantoni would be best set if we had an Amare stoudemire and 3 6-3/6-6 guards who can shoot drive and pass and a point. We have loaded up on the 3-4 tweeners Jefferies Thomas Gallinari Harrington Chandler--to many of those types.
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12/22/2008  2:01 AM
Al is a slasher type swingman, not a post up guy... he can get off his points some on the low post but his strength has always been in his versatility & his range... in many ways he's very similar to Wilson Chandler... u had to expect Al would come down a bit sooner or later, but he has still shown me that he can play tremendously well in this system & is enjoying every single day playing for this franchise... for the next year & a half that's all i could ask for.
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12/22/2008  4:12 AM
I don't see how you can really bash the Crawful trade. Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse. And has a longer contract. A draft pick? Why stop there? I'm disappointed we couldn't land LBJ with Craw + our King James + filler.
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12/22/2008  6:55 AM
I don't think his hot streak or his slump are the real Al Harrington. If you want to know who that is, look at his career numbers. He's a pretty good player - not great or terrible. I like the trade because of the contract and because he plays defense.
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12/22/2008  7:20 AM
Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse.
I could not have possibly said it better
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Posted by nykshaknbake:

I don't see how you can really bash the Crawful trade. Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse. And has a longer contract. A draft pick? Why stop there? I'm disappointed we couldn't land LBJ with Craw + our King James + filler.

No- my preference would have been trading Crawford to a contending team like a New Orleans or San Antonio, getting back a lesser player than Harrington, but a draft pick, perhaps in 2010 when we don't have one.
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Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by franco12:

I'd like to think we have something between the guy that was unconscious and the one that has crashed to earth.

Biggest problem with trading Crawford is we should have found a way to get a first round pick out of the deal.

We didn't.

Move on.

If Harrington plays well for us in his stay, we may get one when we trade him.





Convinced we're re-trading Harrington? I don't know, I think he is staying here.

And I've moved on. Just pointing out the problem I see.
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12/22/2008  8:04 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by nykshaknbake:

I don't see how you can really bash the Crawful trade. Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse. And has a longer contract. A draft pick? Why stop there? I'm disappointed we couldn't land LBJ with Craw + our King James + filler.

No- my preference would have been trading Crawford to a contending team like a New Orleans or San Antonio, getting back a lesser player than Harrington, but a draft pick, perhaps in 2010 when we don't have one.

Harrington's a better player than Craw and has a better contract. Any draft pick we could get for Crawford will be inferior to the draft picks we could get for Harrington. It's just gonna take patience but Walsh was right to jump immediately on the opportunity to get Harrington for Jamal.
Edited: I just saw your next reply. I think it's clear that Walsh has a grand plan and isn't just making random trades like Isiah and Layden did. I'll trust him to figure out whether trading or keeping Harrington will fit better with that grand plan.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2008 08:06 AM]
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12/22/2008  8:11 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by nykshaknbake:

I don't see how you can really bash the Crawful trade. Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse. And has a longer contract. A draft pick? Why stop there? I'm disappointed we couldn't land LBJ with Craw + our King James + filler.

No- my preference would have been trading Crawford to a contending team like a New Orleans or San Antonio, getting back a lesser player than Harrington, but a draft pick, perhaps in 2010 when we don't have one.

Harrington's a better player than Craw and has a better contract. Any draft pick we could get for Crawford will be inferior to the draft picks we could get for Harrington. It's just gonna take patience but Walsh was right to jump immediately on the opportunity to get Harrington for Jamal.
Edited: I just saw your next reply. I think it's clear that Walsh has a grand plan and isn't just making random trades like Isiah and Layden did. I'll trust him to figure out whether trading or keeping Harrington will fit better with that grand plan.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2008 08:06 AM]

Yes I agree Harrington seems better, but if we are truly rebuilding, we should be trading for youth and draft picks, not players that are going to be 30 in 2010 and who have a ton of mileage on them from being in the league so long.

If the question was who would have been a better member of Lebron's supporting cast - I think Crawford.

If the goal was to clear cap room, why not get back a lesser talent than Al & a mid level draft pick?
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12/22/2008  8:17 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by nykshaknbake:

I don't see how you can really bash the Crawful trade. Anything you complain about Harrington, Craw does worse. And has a longer contract. A draft pick? Why stop there? I'm disappointed we couldn't land LBJ with Craw + our King James + filler.

No- my preference would have been trading Crawford to a contending team like a New Orleans or San Antonio, getting back a lesser player than Harrington, but a draft pick, perhaps in 2010 when we don't have one.

Harrington's a better player than Craw and has a better contract. Any draft pick we could get for Crawford will be inferior to the draft picks we could get for Harrington. It's just gonna take patience but Walsh was right to jump immediately on the opportunity to get Harrington for Jamal.
Edited: I just saw your next reply. I think it's clear that Walsh has a grand plan and isn't just making random trades like Isiah and Layden did. I'll trust him to figure out whether trading or keeping Harrington will fit better with that grand plan.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2008 08:06 AM]

Yes I agree Harrington seems better, but if we are truly rebuilding, we should be trading for youth and draft picks, not players that are going to be 30 in 2010 and who have a ton of mileage on them from being in the league so long.

If the question was who would have been a better member of Lebron's supporting cast - I think Crawford.

If the goal was to clear cap room, why not get back a lesser talent than Al & a mid level draft pick?

You seem to have *ruled out* the possibility that Walsh will trade Harrington for picks and/or young talent. All I'm saying is it's highly premature to reach that conclusion. You may very well end up getting those picks indirectly out of Crawford via Al that you hoped for, only they may be better than the picks you would have directly gotten from Jamal.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-22-2008 08:17 AM]
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12/22/2008  8:39 AM
a younger tim thomas???? oh god u cant be serious... get the hell out of here
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12/22/2008  8:52 AM
Posted by Elite:

a younger tim thomas???? oh god u cant be serious... get the hell out of here

OMG! I missed that part the first time. It wasn't even worth addressing anything in this thread if the OP is that delusional.
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12/22/2008  8:57 AM
Briggs is becoming the Berman of these forums
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