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Cosmic
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Okay, The AND1 Ball Dominant players have been removed, a couple of others banished, and we're playing like a team. So I ask, do you like an 8 man rotation of players who love being Knicks and play their hearts out while looking out for their teammates every second of a game? OR Do you miss the Crawful/Zachass AND1 Chucking show?
I love Duhon/Lee/Harrington/and Co Beasting as a TEAM
I Miss Crawful and Zachass combining for 8-56 from the field in a 20 point loss! Oh that CROSSOVER! OHHHHHH!!!!!
:) Shaddup, Cosmic.
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TMS
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12/15/2008  8:16 PM
i voted for the i love Duhon/Lee/etc. playing as a team option... ur starting to act like a troll w/this whole argument & i don't think it needs to go there... been trying to engage u in a civil debate but if u can't handle it, i won't bother.
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Cosmic
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12/15/2008  8:19 PM
Posted by TMS:

i voted for the i love Duhon/Lee/etc. playing as a team option... ur starting to act like a troll w/this whole argument & i don't think it needs to go there... been trying to engage u in a civil debate but if u can't handle it, i won't bother.

I'm a troll now?

Okay, gotcha.

Civil debate? You mean where we disagree and since we disagree I'm wrong and I'm a troll.

Gotcha...

No hard feelings man...but...I'm not feeling your POV and I don't think many others are.

Craw/Zach gone is a BLESSING there really shouldn't be a debate IMO. Again, IMO.

I HATED that Zach/Craw chucking team of garbage. I LOVE this team of players who love being Knicks. Win or Loss. This team is so much more fun to watch and root for.

Again, IMO.

Let's see how the poll plays out tho, k?

No more debate from me on this since I guess it's upsetting some.
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12/15/2008  8:24 PM
ur not even getting my position right... get my freakin position right & then we can debate... don't exaggerate w/crap like this & then pretend like u know what the hell i'm talking about.

once again, I LIKED THE AL HARRINGTON FOR JAMAL TRADE!!! I LIKED THE ZACH FOR FUGAZY & MOBLEY TRADE!!! GET IT NOW??? WE AGREE ON THIS! what i'm debating is not whether or not we agree on the trades, but your silly reasoning to try & defend an untenable position using wins & losses as your main argument... like i pointed out before, this team has a WORSE record after the trade than they did before, so please, enough w/the silly backwards logic to express ur hatred towards Jamal Crawford... yes, i get it, u hate Jamal... whoopdy freakin' DO DA! u get the I Hate Jamal medal award from MS for this one... maybe the other Jamal haters on this board will applaud u for a silly poll like this, but i'm sorry, i think u just made it to incite people & not to carry on any sort of intelligent discussion on it... that means u're acting like a troll.
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Cosmic
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12/15/2008  8:26 PM
Posted by TMS:

ur not even getting my position right... get my freakin position right & then we can debate... don't exaggerate w/crap like this & then pretend like u know what the hell i'm talking about.

once again, I LIKED THE AL HARRINGTON FOR JAMAL TRADE!!! I LIKED THE ZACH FOR FUGAZY & MOBLEY TRADE!!! GET IT NOW??? WE AGREE ON THIS! what i'm debating is not whether or not we agree on the trades, but your silly reasoning to try & defend an untenable position using wins & losses as your main argument... like i pointed out before, this team has a WORSE record after the trade than they did before, so please, enough w/the silly backwards logic to express ur hatred towards Jamal Crawford... yes, i get it, u hate Jamal... whoopdy freakin' DO DA! u get the I Hate Jamal medal award from MS for this one... maybe the other Jamal haters on this board will applaud u for a silly poll like this, but i'm sorry, i think u just made it to incite people & not to carry on any sort of intelligent discussion on it... that means u're acting like a troll.

I get it, you disagree with me. I hate Jamal cause he sucked and you thought he was great and you're ticked off at me. It's fine.
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12/15/2008  8:36 PM
taken from the "Has Al Harrington turned the corner?" thread alone:
TMS
12-10-2008 7:09 PM
he's definitely playing the best ball of his career & proving all the doubters wrong about him w/each passing game... i have no idea where all the "garbage" labels on this guy come from to begin with.

TMS
12-11-2008 2:14 PM
i told u guys that Al would be a better fit for MDA's system than Zach... i'm special.

TMS
12-11-2008 5:59 PM
he was a better fit than i ever though he'd be, but Al stretches the defense better w/his range & is more mobile on the break... he's got a quick release on his 3's while Zach is much more deliberate w/his shot from the arc... the only time he can get off that 3 is in transition or when he's left completely ungarded... Al can run off screens & take 3's effectively & he's alot quicker off the dribble getting into the lane.

TMS
12-14-2008 5:24 PM
idiots who said Al Harrington was garbage MAN UP!

TMS
12-14-2008 6:19 PM
u ain't gotta tell me twice bro... i always said Al Harrington can ball & he's proving it to anyone who's ever doubted him... it's awesome to see.


YEP, sure sounds like i'm all broken up & crying over that Jamal for Al trade, now doesn't it? gimme a break & learn how to read before u comment on people's stance on topics
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Cosmic
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12/15/2008  8:36 PM
Posted by TMS:


YEP, sure sounds like i'm all broken up & crying over that Jamal for Al trade, now doesn't it? gimme a break & learn how to read before u comment on people's stance on topics

Then why in god's name are you arguing with me?

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12/15/2008  8:38 PM
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Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by TMS:


YEP, sure sounds like i'm all broken up & crying over that Jamal for Al trade, now doesn't it? gimme a break & learn how to read before u comment on people's stance on topics

Then why in god's name are you arguing with me?

*shakes head*

Posted by TMS:
what i'm debating is not whether or not we agree on the trades, but your silly reasoning to try & defend an untenable position using wins & losses as your main argument... like i pointed out before, this team has a WORSE record after the trade than they did before, so please, enough w/the silly backwards logic to express ur hatred towards Jamal Crawford

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Cosmic
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12/15/2008  8:42 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by TMS:


YEP, sure sounds like i'm all broken up & crying over that Jamal for Al trade, now doesn't it? gimme a break & learn how to read before u comment on people's stance on topics

Then why in god's name are you arguing with me?

*shakes head*

Posted by TMS:
what i'm debating is not whether or not we agree on the trades, but your silly reasoning to try & defend an untenable position using wins & losses as your main argument... like i pointed out before, this team has a WORSE record after the trade than they did before, so please, enough w/the silly backwards logic to express ur hatred towards Jamal Crawford

Okay, to that like I've said, you are looking at just Wins/Losses and not taking strength of schedule into effect. Essentially, to me, you're seemingly arguing that trading Jamal/Zach when we were 6-3 has lead to us going 5-9 since - where I argue - trade or not, I bet we go 5-9 or maybe 6-8.

Pre-Trade was the ball-dominant Zach/Craw chuck fest show.
Post-Trade is the full team of players playing like a team who loves to play together.

HUGE difference as a fan.

/replying to this - we got the pregame on dammit - and I've said all I can say - if you disagree, again, that's FINE!

LOL!



Edit: I can't spell, forgive me.

[Edited by - cosmic on 12-15-2008 8:43 PM]
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TMS
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12/15/2008  8:49 PM
Okay, to that like I've said, you are looking at just Wins/Losses and not taking strength of schedule into effect. Essentially, to me, you're seemingly arguing that trading Jamal/Zach when we were 6-3 has lead to us going 5-9 since - where I argue - trade or not, I bet we go 5-9 or maybe 6-8.

that's exactly the point... trade or not this team is still pretty much the same in quality, they just play a differnt type of basketball that I AGREE is a lot more fun to watch... that's the point i've been making the whole time & yet u've failed to see it because u take my standing up for Jamal as a sign that i lament the fact that he's no longer here... i have never once said i wish he were still on this team & that i believed we were better off if we hadn't made that trade, that is something u have completely misrepresented & that's not cool... it's OK if u don't like Jamal, i ain't trying to tell u to appreciate him... but when u go bashing him & then pointing out wins & losses as part of your argument while ignoring the fact that this team has lost more games than it's won w/o him this season, u're completely contradicting urself... it's a pretty simple argument & ur taking it way beyond anything i've ever said or alluded to.
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12/15/2008  9:36 PM
I went with shut up.
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12/16/2008  1:17 PM
Posted by VDesai:

I went with shut up.

So did I. It's the 'which would you rather be: rich or stupid?' poll.
You know I gonna spin wit it
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