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Drama Is A Constant In NYK- Land But I'm Thankful For The Maginificent Seven
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misterearl
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11/27/2008  12:34 PM
Measuring Effort

No matter how short the Knicks may be on talent or depth, the Wizards and Pistons games did not lack effort. (the Cavs are that good) So while the remaining guys are still getting acquainted, the gradual process of building a new team will not be pretty, especially with the Marbury sub-plot - but for the guys who stick it out...and for the fans who only complain...

... for those 7 hard-working players who have started to slowly bond, despite the drama, I thank you for the effort against the odds.

Duhon - stay focused, you are the glue
QRich - stay vocal, somebody gotta do it
Al Harrington - stay in the gym, practice your jumper until your arm falls off and get in shape
Lee - stay tenacious, hope the ankle improves, thank you for the double-double
The Mayor - stay hungry, rumble young man rumble!
Roberson - stay positive, work on your handle and hit the open man
Malik - go kick Marbury's azz, you have our blessing

(Nate - get well soon)

I am Spartacus!

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11/27/2008  12:41 PM
I am thankful for the impending cap-space.
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11/27/2008  12:48 PM
what rookie said

"Nate, Curry, Jeffries and Gallinari need to get healthy."

Walsh has some major moves to ponder before New Years Day

It is a long season.
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11/27/2008  1:14 PM
Kinda funny that once you get past sheer talent, people frequently point to "character" as a desirable trait in a player.

Those traits might include dependability, trust, consistency in work invested, willingness to endure pain. Willingness to subjugate ego for the good of the whole. Trust.

Who got next?
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11/27/2008  1:27 PM
Hey misterearl, how about that effort from Harrington. While he couldn't hit the jumper in the first half, he found another way to score by taking it to the basket and getting to the foul line. The picture of him at the end of the game sitting on the bench with his legs all cramped up and smiling with the coach standing next to him giving him the 'attaboy' said it all to me. That was 25 points of pure effort. It might not have been pretty, but this guy found a way to score when his jump shot wasn't going down . I like the Harrington for Crawford trade. This guy brings it.
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11/27/2008  1:35 PM
rookie - you made the call. Harrington has been inactive all season and suddenly is on the court.

"D'Antoni started Richardson, usually a small forward, in the backcourt with Chris Duhon, who played 40:11 while battling ankle and back issues. Al Harrington, who led the Knicks with 25 points, played through cramps in his leg."

They are all hurting in some form or another. With perhaps the exception of Roberson who had only seen cameo minutes. I submit the remaining players should be supported with passion
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11/27/2008  8:53 PM
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11/27/2008  11:21 PM
The Knicks remind me of the Nets when they got rid of Coleman and Anderson. Chris Childs, Armon Gilliam, and PJ Brown all played with tremendous heart and character. They were not that good but their attitudes were refreshing at the time. Too bad Clyde's roommate got fired before the Nets cleaned house.
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11/27/2008  11:51 PM
This team is horrible until proven otherwise. Gave up on the season 11 games in--pretty much never been done in sports when you were seconds from being 7-3. We didnt use Marbury from game 1 when he showed he can be very cooperative and productive in pre-season. I think you only tank if you sck after 25-30 games and mathematically not a reality. Were not going to tank--we'll just be horrible. We couldve tried to try hard to win this season--why not---the alternative is watching terrible basketball for 70 games+++ and then the same idiots who have screwed up the draft will do it a again. Now we have to watch one of the most over-rated players in basketball Al Harrington shoot 9-25 along with his 3-13 partner Q Rich. I think we panic traded Randolph and Crawford when there was no pressing need to do so at this time.
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11/27/2008  11:56 PM
The team was considering trading Randolph with the sixth pick just to get rid of his contract. I don't think it was a panic trade. I think it was part of Walsh's 'Plan'. The plan is simple and there is a good chance that it will backfire but the trade does fit with it.
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12/8/2008  12:12 AM
One Step Backward, Two Steps Forward

"This team is horrible until proven otherwise... I think we panic traded Randolph and Crawford when there was no pressing need to do so at this time." - Briggs

(cough)

News Flash

The New New York Knicks are NOT horrible. On the contrary, I am developing a sense of pride in how the seven have played recently. Even in Atlanta, they withstood run after run by a young and telanted team, only to fall one good look short of overtime.

As opposed to offering up another "panic trade" du jour for Chris Duhon, I would offer that the Walsh "real-time" acquistion of Al Harrington and Tim Thomas is proving to be a visionary one.
Harrington is embracing both being home and the leadership role. Tim Thomas was actually spotted making a move towards the hoop. The defense is more cohesive and will improve as the players gain trust.

"We couldve tried to try hard to win this season--why not---the alternative is watching terrible basketball for 70 games+++ and then the same idiots who have screwed up the draft will do it a again."

Walsh is no more an idiot than any wanna-be self-appointed, self-annointed, self-righteous, faux baseball-bubble-gum-card trading, thumb-sucking, rotissiere-league types, who only offer a second-guess in place of scholarly and scientific hoops analysis.

I like our seven.

I like the fact they are competing short-handed and have moved on without the (cough) "very cooperative and productive" Marbury. I like Duhon hitting Lee with the bounce pass and The Mayor finding his voice by draining a clutch three-pointer. I even like Quentin using his big butt to his advantage at guard. I can suffer the setbacks without running to RealGM for arbitrary answers to imaginary negotiations.

Unfortunately, the games (and transactions) are not conducted on a keyboard.

This franchise is on the right track.
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12/8/2008  12:18 AM
^ yeah man, completely agreed. The ball was flowing in the Detroit game and I have seen stretches of team defense (in multiple games), defense that somehow magically showed up cause we all know that MDA doesn't stress it in practice.
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12/8/2008  12:30 AM
Martin - did you say defense?

No one mentioned the hard charge that Jeffries absorbed, barely two games into his rehab. No one mentioned David Lee's 19 rebounds. No one mentioned the way Al Harrington chased
'Sheed around like he stole something.

D'Antoni is not the smiling stereotype that the press has been spoon feeding us. He is a hard-working, take-no-nonsense, "I'll play your butt 48 minutes if that's what it takes to get a win" type of dude.

I like him a lot.
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12/8/2008  10:50 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Kinda funny that once you get past sheer talent, people frequently point to "character" as a desirable trait in a player.

Those traits might include dependability, trust, consistency in work invested, willingness to endure pain. Willingness to subjugate ego for the good of the whole. Trust.

Who got next?

This is exactly why it was imperative to ship Zach and Crawful and their "amazing stats" out of town and to force Marbury and Curry off the team.

We lose all that "talent" and we're a better team that is more fun to watch?

Say it ain't so!

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12/8/2008  11:09 AM
Cosmic - The Walsh masterstroke of exchanging the extra-large playing personality/ego of Crawford and Randolph leaves room for the remaining players to grow into new roles. It allows D'Antoni to creatively refine the roles.

The cameo of Chandler at the two is an indication of things to come. Even big butt Quentin Richardson is a better fit at guard.

Now let's really fantasize for a moment...

If somehow, someway Gallinari can heal enough to run and jump for 20 minutes, by February no one will be shedding any post-partum tears for Zach Randolph.
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12/8/2008  11:19 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cosmic - The Walsh masterstroke of exchanging the extra-large playing personality/ego of Crawford and Randolph leaves room for the remaining players to grow into new roles. It allows D'Antoni to creatively refine the roles.

The cameo of Chandler at the two is an indication of things to come. Even big butt Quentin Richardson is a better fit at guard.

Now let's really fantasize for a moment...

If somehow, someway Gallinari can heal enough to run and jump for 20 minutes, by February no one will be shedding any post-partum tears for Zach Randolph.

I agree and if Mobley was able to play and Gallo and Nate were healthy I still maintain that post Crawful/Zachass trades we at least would not have been any worse of a team and maybe even a better team after those trades.

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12/8/2008  11:37 AM
Posted by martin:

^ yeah man, completely agreed. The ball was flowing in the Detroit game and I have seen stretches of team defense (in multiple games), defense that somehow magically showed up cause we all know that MDA doesn't stress it in practice.

The movement on defense in the first half yesterday and in spurts in the 2nd half was the best that I've seen from the Knicks in about 7 years.
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12/8/2008  11:43 AM
Cosmic - There is a benefit in the Knicks being forced to play shorthanded.

You weed out the punks.

Anyone who pigeonholed Duhon as someone who could not handle the extra minutues is suddenly very quiet. The toughness of David Lee was apparent, but only he knows how much his ankle has been throbbing. Wilson Chandler, who depends on his hops, is playing on a tender knee, but fighting through it.

The road trip will continue to reveal the "content of character" for this band of brothers.

The idea is not simply about winning, but building a bond of comraderie that any new acquisition must get on board with.

Saviors? We don't need no steenkin' saviors.



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12/8/2008  11:46 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Cosmic - There is a benefit in the Knicks being forced to play shorthanded.

You weed out the punks.

Anyone who pigeonholed Duhon as someone who could not handle the extra minutues is suddenly very quiet. The toughness of David Lee was apparent, but only he knows how much his ankle has been throbbing. Wilson Chandler, who depends on his hops, is playing on a tender knee, but fighting through it.

The road trip will continue to reveal the "content of character" for this band of brothers.

The idea is not simply about winning, but building a bond of comraderie that any new acquisition must get on board with.

Saviors? We don't need no steenkin' saviors.

Agreed. I dont' think people realize how valuable these times have been for the young guys. They are battling. They are wiping away the bad influences of the quitters that they played with 2 and 3 years ago. Now we have a bunch of guys, who for all their flaws, come to battle. They may lose more than they win, but in the long run, those that remain through the rebuilding are going to learn what level of effort it takes to win. They may even learn sooner and start winning a few games this year or next.
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12/8/2008  11:56 AM
Content Of Character

For Nate, knowing he was not fully healed, to give it a shot in Atlanta, was significant. He could have simply sat out - but he knew that his guys needed him and tried to play anyway.

Contrast Nate's great spirit with the final soap opera episodes of "he who has no Knicks uniform".

Nate for Captain.

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