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11/18/2008  1:28 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/sports/basketball/18lebron.html?ref=basketball
LeBron James is coming to New Jersey on Tuesday, and if the Nets are primping themselves for a courtship, they are running a bit late.

Next week, James and the Cavaliers visit New York and the Knicks. They are also a possible suitor when James potentially headlines a star-studded free-agent class in the summer of 2010. But much like the Nets, the Knicks also face barricades in landing James.

Although much can change in a fluid market, and handicapping possible situations nearly two years away is almost impossible, the Nets and the Knicks are expected to join close to 15 teams in the league in jockeying for position come 2010.

The Nets were once considered the odds-on favorite to get James, possibly the game’s most transcending player. He is a close friend to the rapper Jay-Z, a part-owner of the Nets.

But the team’s planned move to Brooklyn is at a standstill, which could significantly lessen the chances of James becoming a Net. That is the view of Sonny Vaccaro, the former shoe executive who keeps tabs on his former ABCD campers, James included. Vaccaro said he thought James would end up with the Knicks.

“LeBron’s relationship with Jay-Z will go on regardless,” Vaccaro said. “He’ll be an international celebrity in New York. If the Nets aren’t in Brooklyn, he’s not going over there for even $200 million. They’re putting pieces together. They’re doing the right things. They’re just living in the wrong building.”

The Nets’ move has been sidetracked by delays, the faltering economy and legal challenges to Atlantic Yards, the proposed development that would include the new arena. The latest litigation has pushed groundbreaking to next spring at the earliest, with a predicted opening in 2011.

Recently, Barclays affirmed its commitment to the naming rights of the Brooklyn arena even though the project was lagging.

“We are very excited about being part of the continued renaissance of Brooklyn and we eagerly look forward to opening night at the Barclays Center,” Gerard LaRocca, the capital chief administrative officer for the Americas at Barclays, said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the Nets are a team in transition on the court as well. They shed enough salary-cap space with the trade of Richard Jefferson last summer to be in good position to add a high-level free agent in 2010. And, despite the innovative tactics of Brett Yormark, the president and chief executive of Nets Sports and Entertainment, swaths of empty seats remain at the Izod Center.

In Manhattan, the Knicks are confounded with their own issues that could hurt their chances of wooing James. The team is weighed by heavy contracts and Donnie Walsh, the team’s president, has been unsuccessful in finding a taker for Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph, whose deals extend through the 2011 season. Curry is owed $11.28 million that year, Randolph $17.33 million.

All this speculation is contingent on James’s opting out of the final year of his contract. Although he has been spotted wearing a Yankees hat on numerous occasions, including in the stands at Progressive Field when the Indians hosted the Yankees in an American League division series game in 2007, James insisted he was happy in Cleveland.

“I love being here, I love playing in front of these fans,” James, a native of Akron, Ohio, told The Cleveland Plain Dealer during the team’s media day. “My family’s here. I grew up 30 miles away from here. I never gave any indication I did not like playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers.”

Barring a sign-and-trade agreement, the Cavaliers will be able to offer James a longer and more lucrative contract than any other team. They also appear retooled in the early season, with the addition of point guard Mo Williams.

No matter the Cavaliers’ efforts, Vaccaro said he thought James was destined to leave Cleveland.

“LeBron is this generation’s personality,” said Vaccaro, not one to shy away from hyperbole. “Even though Cleveland has done everything right, you don’t get to Mount Rushmore from Cleveland. He has to go to New York or Los Angeles. There’s no question. The money will be available anywhere. But this is about his persona.”

James could be joined by Toronto’s Chris Bosh, Miami’s Dwyane Wade and Phoenix’s Amare Stoudemire in the 2010 free-agent class. Like the Cavaliers, those teams may have an abundance of salary-cap space. Realistically, they could each re-sign their own star, then use him to lure another franchise player.

Would James rather team with Wilson Chandler or Yi Jianlian in New York? Or would he be more content having Wade or Bosh join him in Cleveland or changing jerseys to play with those players’ current teams?

“Things can change between now and two years from now, but there are a lot of teams pointing toward that year to have cap space as of today,” Nets General Manager Kiki Vandeweghe said. “There’s the potential to have a lot of good free agents available.”

None more valuable than James, who will most likely be the most sought-after free agent in league history.

“He’s not going to get another decision,” Vaccaro said. “We aren’t going to be coming back to this when he’s 32. This is the one. This is the one that’s going to shake the landscape.”
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11/18/2008  2:10 AM
This article has New York written all over it.

We just gotta keep working on making it happen on our end. Dude wants the lights. He needs to hang out with Eli & Jeets and they can tell him all about it.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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11/18/2008  4:03 AM
Lebron was made for NY... it's a shame we will never sniff the chance to land him cuz of the crappy contracts on our payroll.
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11/18/2008  6:31 AM
Posted by TMS:

Lebron was made for NY... it's a shame we will never sniff the chance to land him cuz of the crappy contracts on our payroll.

Never say never. As of right now we could trade Zach for expiring contracts and its still the first quarter of year one. Marbury is as good as gone too. At some point Curry will have to get healthy and play, making him an attractive trade target as well. Even Crawford, with another strong season will likely opt out. There is too much basketball and too much negotiations to be done in this two years to believe it will never happen. We WILL get in position to make it happen. We just have to remember that Walsh, the very patient man, is our GM and that means waiting a little more than we use to in NY.
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11/18/2008  6:47 AM
I just think the Lebron's agent is using the New York media to get that big payday. What makes the Knicks a better chance to get Lebron over Detroit? Rashard Lewis got big bucks. I can only imagine what Lebron will ask for.
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11/18/2008  7:47 AM
Posted by BigC:

I just think the Lebron's agent is using the New York media to get that big payday. What makes the Knicks a better chance to get Lebron over Detroit? Rashard Lewis got big bucks. I can only imagine what Lebron will ask for.

We've all come this far in believing that we can plan better and execute it. But now we need to change are beliefs again and start to ask the question Why not the Knicks?

Why don't some of us have the attitude that 'why not the Knicks'? Why do some of us always say that we can't have a superstar and that they'll end up somewhere else? Why is that? No 'end of the world stuff' either as an excuse. Why not us BIG??

Why is it so impossible for the Knicks to land superstars. I think if we change our belief system, then we will find that not only is it possible, but do-a-ble! We absolutely could not do it last year and beyond because mathematically it was impossible, but for the first time in a long time we have finally have a shot. And why would Lebron go through all that trouble to 'use New York' to build his case for more money somewhere else?

Kobe publicly gave hints that he wanted to play in New York, but we had no money for him. I'm telling you's that a lot of these players want the lights and if and when it happens, we will be kings of the world. If we don't try, then guess where he probably would go? L.A. or chicago. Some place were they know how to get their man. So let's change our attitudes on this okay guys. I believe Donnie can make this work.

Believe.
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11/18/2008  8:19 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:

I just think the Lebron's agent is using the New York media to get that big payday. What makes the Knicks a better chance to get Lebron over Detroit? Rashard Lewis got big bucks. I can only imagine what Lebron will ask for.

We've all come this far in believing that we can plan better and execute it. But now we need to change are beliefs again and start to ask the question Why not the Knicks?

Why don't some of us have the attitude that 'why not the Knicks'? Why do some of us always say that we can't have a superstar and that they'll end up somewhere else? Why is that? No 'end of the world stuff' either as an excuse. Why not us BIG??

Why is it so impossible for the Knicks to land superstars. I think if we change our belief system, then we will find that not only is it possible, but do-a-ble! We absolutely could not do it last year and beyond because mathematically it was impossible, but for the first time in a long time we have finally have a shot. And why would Lebron go through all that trouble to 'use New York' to build his case for more money somewhere else?

Kobe publicly gave hints that he wanted to play in New York, but we had no money for him. I'm telling you's that a lot of these players want the lights and if and when it happens, we will be kings of the world. If we don't try, then guess where he probably would go? L.A. or chicago. Some place were they know how to get their man. So let's change our attitudes on this okay guys. I believe Donnie can make this work.

Believe.


49,
I don't think its the case that people think that stars don't want to come to NY ever, just that the damage done to this
franchise might not have been repaired by that time. For Lebron anyway, we will have to shed tons of salary AND have a
solid team (at least) in place. One of those is possible. I have not yet seen a SINGLE plan by any poster that give us
both.
HOWEVER, that's not to say that we won't be able to land one of the other highly coveted prizes that year.
Think CP3 or Dwight Howard. They may not be able to dictate as much as Lebron the conditions of the place they sign with.
They'll get max money, sure, but we might be able to sign them with less talent on board.
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11/18/2008  9:02 AM
The knicks need not be ready to win when we sign a player.

Our draft this year is critical. We need a point!

We need a running shot blocker.

MDA is a big asset.

We are cleaning house and it will take some time.

Thorn and the nets are ahead of the curve. I guess Carter expires by 2010?

I am happy moving forward and if it yields Lebron, great! But Bosh and others are nice prizes too and its not like 2010 will be a championship year, this is about 2012.

4 years, thats a lot of games, a lot of picks, a lot of FA's.



[Edited by - nalod on 18-11-2008 09:19 AM]
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11/18/2008  10:19 AM
is there any possibility to buy out Big fat ed out of here
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11/18/2008  4:35 PM
Posted by BigC:

I just think the Lebron's agent is using the New York media to get that big payday. What makes the Knicks a better chance to get Lebron over Detroit? Rashard Lewis got big bucks. I can only imagine what Lebron will ask for.

yeah but the difference is Lebron will be worth the money he's signed to... Rashard Lewis' contract is just about the most obscene contract i've seen for an overrated player i've seen in a longtime, probably since Allan Houston's $100 million dollar deal... anyway, this is not baseball where players can just ask for any amount of money they want... Lebron will get a max contract w/any team he signs for & he'll be well worth every penny.
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11/18/2008  4:48 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:

I just think the Lebron's agent is using the New York media to get that big payday. What makes the Knicks a better chance to get Lebron over Detroit? Rashard Lewis got big bucks. I can only imagine what Lebron will ask for.

We've all come this far in believing that we can plan better and execute it. But now we need to change are beliefs again and start to ask the question Why not the Knicks?

Why don't some of us have the attitude that 'why not the Knicks'? Why do some of us always say that we can't have a superstar and that they'll end up somewhere else? Why is that? No 'end of the world stuff' either as an excuse. Why not us BIG??

Why is it so impossible for the Knicks to land superstars. I think if we change our belief system, then we will find that not only is it possible, but do-a-ble! We absolutely could not do it last year and beyond because mathematically it was impossible, but for the first time in a long time we have finally have a shot. And why would Lebron go through all that trouble to 'use New York' to build his case for more money somewhere else?

Kobe publicly gave hints that he wanted to play in New York, but we had no money for him. I'm telling you's that a lot of these players want the lights and if and when it happens, we will be kings of the world. If we don't try, then guess where he probably would go? L.A. or chicago. Some place were they know how to get their man. So let's change our attitudes on this okay guys. I believe Donnie can make this work.

Believe.

Maybe because stars have normally burnt the Knicks over the years. Like I said, you name me the last superstar to come on board then you have a point. Shaq said it snowed too much for him, I still don't get that line, I can only assume that he hates snow but it never bother him to promote himself in NY. Maybe Lebron comes or he won't but we need to stop acting like it is familiar territory for the Knicks. I am still waiting on Mitch Richmond, that Riley promised when he got here. Chicago assumed that the free agents would be lining up to run there but the stigma of how they treated their star players still remains.
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11/18/2008  4:53 PM
Posted by Nalod:

The knicks need not be ready to win when we sign a player.

Our draft this year is critical. We need a point!

We need a running shot blocker.

MDA is a big asset.

We are cleaning house and it will take some time.

Thorn and the nets are ahead of the curve. I guess Carter expires by 2010?

I am happy moving forward and if it yields Lebron, great! But Bosh and others are nice prizes too and its not like 2010 will be a championship year, this is about 2012.

4 years, thats a lot of games, a lot of picks, a lot of FA's.



[Edited by - nalod on 18-11-2008 09:19 AM]

LOL, didn't Donnie say that the 2008 was a vital draft too.
"We can't make a mistake with that kind of pick," Walsh said. "Case closed."
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