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Nate Rob is a complete animal and jamal is getting in his way
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Cash
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11/9/2008  5:51 PM
Nate is stealing the ball, rebounding the ball, creating great passes to teamates(b/c his skills help create their open baskets) and is shooting the ball at an extremely high clip. He doesn't just get assists cause he holds the ball a lot, he gets them because he creates for others because they are scared of his quickness. Nate Rob is playing this game at a very high level and should be starting.

Jamal crawford needs to go to his next losing team, because this team actually seems to be able to win.
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11/9/2008  5:53 PM
I'm not a big Craw fan myself, but you picked the wrong night for this thread. Craw played well tonight as he did in Washington.
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11/9/2008  5:54 PM
Posted by Uptown:

I'm not a big Craw fan myself, but you picked the wrong night for this thread. Craw played well tonight as he did in Washington.


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11/9/2008  5:59 PM
Jamal will always shoot well every not and then, that is not the point. He just brings very little to a team. And, I brought this up today on purpose.
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11/9/2008  6:04 PM
Posted by Cash:

Jamal will always shoot well every not and then, that is not the point. He just brings very little to a team. And, I brought this up today on purpose.

Look, I dont see how Craw gets in Nates way when IMO they are both 6th man type players. Neither would start on a legit championship team. If and when the Knicks move Craw, it shouldn't be to open up a spot in the starting lineup for Nate, it shold be to bring in a legit starting 2 guard who can pay on both sides of the ball.

[Edited by - uptown on 11-09-2008 6:25 PM]
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11/9/2008  6:05 PM
how can you argue with how our back court is playing right now? we have a very solid three guard rotation of duhon, craw and nate. is it a championship caliber backcourt? no. but it's a good one for the stlye of play and we need all of them for the time being.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 09-11-2008 6:05 PM]
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Cash
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11/9/2008  6:08 PM
I don't think nate is a 6th man type player. When you do so many things well-steal the ball, play with hustle creating turnovers for others, rebound the ball, set up you teamates well with assists(not just cause you hold the ball so much ala marbury and crawford, but because you set them up well in a position to score) and when you shoot the ball at the clip he is, you deserve to start, and are likely the best player on a not so great team.
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11/9/2008  6:48 PM
Posted by Cash:

I don't think nate is a 6th man type player. When you do so many things well-steal the ball, play with hustle creating turnovers for others, rebound the ball, set up you teamates well with assists(not just cause you hold the ball so much ala marbury and crawford, but because you set them up well in a position to score) and when you shoot the ball at the clip he is, you deserve to start, and are likely the best player on a not so great team.

It might be partly that he is doing this as the Sixth man... he has more opportunities with the ball and he is not against the starting 5, which may give him a small boost. I say, if it ain't broke don't fix it....yet...
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11/9/2008  7:09 PM
Posted by Travla:
Posted by Uptown:

I'm not a big Craw fan myself, but you picked the wrong night for this thread. Craw played well tonight as he did in Washington.


What he said^

What he said he said^
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11/9/2008  7:13 PM
Nate is the perfect 6th man on a championship team, so I hope he stays when we actually become a contender.

Craw may not do so many things, but he is comparable to H2O that the only thing he did he did well enough. By no means im comparing their shots, but Craw kept us in the game with his scoring and he actually lead everyone with 32 pts.


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11/9/2008  7:16 PM
this is just plain stupid. Jamal Crawford is a proven NBA scorer and Nate Robinson has came off the bench and provided a spark every game. Jamal is clearly the better player at this point in his career. He hustles, shoots well, scores alot, and hits big shots and makes big plays. Jamal is well on his way to scoring 23+ points a game this year and while Nate is good, hes no jamal.
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11/9/2008  7:36 PM
Say what you guys want......Nate, Craw, and Duhon are playing well together.......ar they a championship calibur backcourt? Well is Raja and Nash?

They are 4-2.....yeah the Knicks fell asleep for 2 loses.......but they sure have looked awesome in these wins. How in the hell can you post a thread talking about Craw holding Nate back. Since when is the team about one player? That's the past. Knicks are 4-2 cuz of their team play. If Nate has Zero points and the Knicks win as a team who cares? Its not about Nate alone.

Anyway, the guys that were holding Nate and Craw down are currently no in the plans.........any they go by the name of Curry and Marbs.

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11/9/2008  7:39 PM
Posted by nykbasketball:

this is just plain stupid. Jamal Crawford is a proven NBA scorer and Nate Robinson has came off the bench and provided a spark every game. Jamal is clearly the better player at this point in his career. He hustles, shoots well, scores alot, and hits big shots and makes big plays. Jamal is well on his way to scoring 23+ points a game this year and while Nate is good, hes no jamal.


yea right, not even close. like i always say, everything JC can do, Nate can do better.
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11/9/2008  7:41 PM
Nate's averaging 2.6 steals a game, very impressive.
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11/9/2008  7:46 PM
Posted by TMS:

Nate's averaging 2.6 steals a game, very impressive.

2.8333333333 after today's game . And I think he got robbed of one steal too.

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11/9/2008  7:49 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by TMS:

Nate's averaging 2.6 steals a game, very impressive.

2.8333333333 after today's game . And I think he got robbed of one steal too.

oohah

seems like he's really taken what MDA told him in practice to heart... i remember a clip they showed where MDA was telling Nate he should easily be leading the league in steals w/his ability & tools, & so far he's among the league leaders.
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11/9/2008  7:49 PM
Who cares who is the better player out of them, the fact is that both are Knicks, playing well and they know their roles on the team. A team needs players with roles defined so they know what to do and hopefully get in position for a win.
This "who is the better player" mentality is what has Marbury and Curry gone and is exactly what D'Antoni is against.

Do you follow the Giants? They are the perfect example of what the Knicks are trying to do. They buy into their system, play a hech of a defense and intelligent offense and are one of the Elite teams. They are doing so without any of their "stars" because its all about the team. The Knicks are quickly learning that, thankfully.
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11/9/2008  7:59 PM
Yes, I follow the giants, and crawford would not be starting over nate on the giants. It's a team game and the giants are good at understanding that. Crawford on the other hand does very few things that makes players around him better. He simply shoots and he does that normally at a very low percentage.

Nate on the other hand does a bunch of stuff that makes players around him better. He is a player that helps a team win.
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11/9/2008  9:22 PM
Posted by Cash:

Yes, I follow the giants, and crawford would not be starting over nate on the giants. It's a team game and the giants are good at understanding that. Crawford on the other hand does very few things that makes players around him better. He simply shoots and he does that normally at a very low percentage.

Nate on the other hand does a bunch of stuff that makes players around him better. He is a player that helps a team win.

Ok, you simply didn't understand what I said. Everyone can see things as they want to.
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11/9/2008  10:41 PM
4 and 2 and the backcourt is playing great. Why would you change things? So Nate can improve his stats?
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Nate Rob is a complete animal and jamal is getting in his way

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