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11/8/2008  4:05 PM
Thru 5 games...

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/11/08/numbers-game/
As you can see, when players get over on-ball screens, these 3 in particular, a positive result happens 79.6% of the time. Conversely, when players get lazy and get under screens, it gives the opposing team a tremendous advantage offensively. We’ll keep an eye out to see if the group can improve. Nate has to improve on his 21% in getting over screens and he will become a better defender. Also, Crawford can’t rely so much on switching.
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11/8/2008  4:37 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

Thru 5 games...

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/11/08/numbers-game/
As you can see, when players get over on-ball screens, these 3 in particular, a positive result happens 79.6% of the time. Conversely, when players get lazy and get under screens, it gives the opposing team a tremendous advantage offensively. We’ll keep an eye out to see if the group can improve. Nate has to improve on his 21% in getting over screens and he will become a better defender. Also, Crawford can’t rely so much on switching.

So what's the article say?
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11/8/2008  4:38 PM
Editor’s Note- We mention “non-penetrating” passes as “positive plays.” This is because as the pass goes away from the basket, the Knicks defend can reset and the on ball screen is essentially neutralized.

Through the first 5 games we’ve been tracking Knicks guards getting over/under on ball screens and the positive/negative results.

Negative plays are shots made, or penetration to the basket that result in baskets by the opponent. Conversely, the positive results would be turnovers, non-penetrating passes (passes away from the basket) and missed shots the Knicks forced defensively.

TS= Times Screened
TOS= Times player got over the screen
TUS= Times player got under the screen
SW- Player switched on screen
PP= % of positive play when over the screen
NP-un/sw= % of negative play when under the screen or switching

Chris Duhon
59 (TS) 52 (TOS) 5(TUS) 2(SW) 88%(PP) 71.4% (NP-un) 50% (NP-sw)
Jamal Crawford
40 (TS) 4 (TOS) 10(TUS) 26(SW) 100%(PP) 80% (NP-un) 76% (NP-sw)
Nate Robinson
42 (TS) 8(TOS) 26(TUS) 8(SW) 75%(PP) 88% (NP-un) 75% (NP-sw)

Confused? Okay allow me to explain. Chris Duhon has been screened 59 times on the ball this year- he has got over the screen 52 times. When he gets over, a “positive play” happened 88% of the time (46 out of 52). When he got under the screen, a negative play happend 71% of the time- (5 out of 7) and he doesn’t really switch much and is 50% (1-2).

Got it?

As you can see, when players get over on-ball screens, these 3 in particular, a positive result happens 79.6% of the time. Conversely, when players get lazy and get under screens, it gives the opposing team a tremendous advantage offensively. We’ll keep an eye out to see if the group can improve. Nate has to improve on his 21% in getting over screens and he will become a better defender. Also, Crawford can’t rely so much on switching.
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11/8/2008  4:42 PM
Basic basketball. Hold your own weight and fight through screens. If you can't consistently do this, teams pick up on that and expose the sheeeeeeeot out of you and your team.
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11/8/2008  4:45 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

Thru 5 games...

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/11/08/numbers-game/
As you can see, when players get over on-ball screens, these 3 in particular, a positive result happens 79.6% of the time. Conversely, when players get lazy and get under screens, it gives the opposing team a tremendous advantage offensively. We’ll keep an eye out to see if the group can improve. Nate has to improve on his 21% in getting over screens and he will become a better defender. Also, Crawford can’t rely so much on switching.

I'll never trust this' team again.
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11/8/2008  4:50 PM
FYI I loosely kept Marbury's stats on this during the preseason and he didn't get over 1 screen. He was like 0 for 20 with 17 negative plays.

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11/8/2008  4:52 PM
Actually, this article is about how our three guards, Duhon, Nate and Crawford get past enough screens to have positive results. They have a 79.6% average of positive effect when they do break it.

So in other words, they have a success rate of 3 out of 4 tries (or just under 8 of 10 tries), every time they get through. That's pretty good, in five contests total and shows that they are working as our main guards.



[Edited by - 4949 on 11-08-2008 4:54 PM]
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11/8/2008  4:52 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

FYI I loosely kept Marbury's stats on this during the preseason and he didn't get over 1 screen. He was like 0 for 20 with 17 negative plays.

I am confuse because I remember both Breen and Clyde complementing Marbury for fighting through screens to stay on top of his man. For example, he was applauded by both on several occasions in the Celtics game in Boston.
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11/8/2008  4:57 PM
I wonder what it is for Collins & Roberson?
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11/8/2008  4:59 PM
Marbury was fighting thru off the ball screens the one's that Clyde and Breen were referring to.

He was usually guarding a 3.

Ball screens are screens when a player is guarding the ball directly.
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11/8/2008  4:59 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

FYI I loosely kept Marbury's stats on this during the preseason and he didn't get over 1 screen. He was like 0 for 20 with 17 negative plays.

That's amazing! I wonder how you get a hold of stats like these? Interesting. This is really telling and says a lot about how' our guys are getting so many assists.
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11/8/2008  5:00 PM
Posted by 4949:

Actually, this article is about how our three guards, Duhon, Nate and Crawford get past enough screens to have positive results. They have a 79.6% average of positive effect when they do break it.

So in other words, they have a success rate of 3 out of 4 tries (or just under 8 of 10 tries), every time they get through. That's pretty good, in five contests total and shows that they are working as our main guards.



[Edited by - 4949 on 11-08-2008 4:54 PM]

I'd say the fact that nate and craw have only gotten over 8 and 4 respectively, the need to do it much more, seeing that the average of positive plays increases when you get over ie Duhon.
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11/8/2008  5:01 PM
Posted by tommydee21:

Marbury was fighting thru off the ball screens the one's that Clyde and Breen were referring to.


Ball screens are screens when a player is guarding the ball directly.

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11/8/2008  5:02 PM
True.
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