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earthmansurfer
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11/8/2008  5:17 AM
I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

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11/8/2008  5:59 AM
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)

kid must be Korean... don't be joking about my bukkake brother bitches! or else i'll get my cousin Sum Yung Gai after your azzes.
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11/8/2008  6:18 AM
Posted by earthmansurfer:

I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

EMS

EMS

Those are the players the Knicks had during summer league for the last couple of years. Russell Robinson is that quick pg who was impressive in summer league two years ago.

Sung-Yun Bang has a jumpshot but is very soft down low in the paint. He also needs to work on his foot work on the defensive end.

John Millsap has hops but needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end.


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11/8/2008  10:47 AM
David Noel won a dunk contest in high school or something against James White(Who missed a free throw through the legs dunk).
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11/8/2008  11:13 AM
Is John Millsap related to Paul Millsap?

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11/8/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by oohah:

Is John Millsap related to Paul Millsap?

oohah

Yes, Paul is his brother. Paul is the one that played on Utah. I think they both played on the same NBDL together before.

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11/8/2008  11:56 AM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

EMS

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Those are the players the Knicks had during summer league for the last couple of years. Russell Robinson is that quick pg who was impressive in summer league two years ago.

Sung-Yun Bang has a jumpshot but is very soft down low in the paint. He also needs to work on his foot work on the defensive end.

John Millsap has hops but needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end.

I was told on this board that preseason doesn't count, so I don't see how summer league could either? Doesn't mean a thing.
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11/8/2008  11:57 AM
The nerve of the Knicks cutting a playing who isn't even good enough to get drafted by the D League......I blame Isiah.
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11/8/2008  12:05 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

EMS

EMS

Those are the players the Knicks had during summer league for the last couple of years. Russell Robinson is that quick pg who was impressive in summer league two years ago.

Sung-Yun Bang has a jumpshot but is very soft down low in the paint. He also needs to work on his foot work on the defensive end.

John Millsap has hops but needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end.

I was told on this board that preseason doesn't count, so I don't see how summer league could either? Doesn't mean a thing.

What are you talking about? The question was asked does anyone know any of these players. Not OMG these players are the best thing since the invention of the remote control for the TV. My response was to make other posters who aren't familiar with these players no who they are.

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11/8/2008  12:24 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

EMS

EMS

Those are the players the Knicks had during summer league for the last couple of years. Russell Robinson is that quick pg who was impressive in summer league two years ago.

Sung-Yun Bang has a jumpshot but is very soft down low in the paint. He also needs to work on his foot work on the defensive end.

John Millsap has hops but needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end.

I was told on this board that preseason doesn't count, so I don't see how summer league could either? Doesn't mean a thing.

What are you talking about? The question was asked does anyone know any of these players. Not OMG these players are the best thing since the invention of the remote control for the TV. My response was to make other posters who aren't familiar with these players no who they are.

Doesn't matter. Unless it's NBA, nobody matters. Whether it's D-League, summer league or preseason. This is what I was told. I already tried to make a point of the preseason being a good example of what to expect and I was told specifically by several people that 'it didn't matter'. That's my point. So what your talking about is moot.
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11/8/2008  12:41 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

I thought we were talking about drafting him? We wouldn't own his rights but at least he'd be in a running offense.

Wonder what happened?

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55303/20081107/2008_d_league_draft_results_announced/
We are The Reno Bighorns btw.

We selected:
1. Russell Robinson
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)
3. Marcus Sloan
4. Charlie Parker
5. Gary Hill-Thomas
6. Alex Bausley
7. Dave Noel
8. Marcus Heard
9. John Millsap

Anyone know of any of these guys?

EMS

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Those are the players the Knicks had during summer league for the last couple of years. Russell Robinson is that quick pg who was impressive in summer league two years ago.

Sung-Yun Bang has a jumpshot but is very soft down low in the paint. He also needs to work on his foot work on the defensive end.

John Millsap has hops but needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end.

I was told on this board that preseason doesn't count, so I don't see how summer league could either? Doesn't mean a thing.

What are you talking about? The question was asked does anyone know any of these players. Not OMG these players are the best thing since the invention of the remote control for the TV. My response was to make other posters who aren't familiar with these players no who they are.

Doesn't matter. Unless it's NBA, nobody matters. Whether it's D-League, summer league or preseason. This is what I was told. I already tried to make a point of the preseason being a good example of what to expect and I was told specifically by several people that 'it didn't matter'. That's my point. So what your talking about is moot.

My point is dealing about who are these players Those are the players. That is a discription. If it didn't matter why are you posting in this thread? If it did not matter who these people are a thread would not be created. If it did not matter people would not watch preseason games.

Did you watch summer league?
Did you watch preseason games?
Whether people admit it or not people watch preseason to get an idea how a player might play.



My response is to " Who are these players?" or "Is someone related to this player. Every thread does not have to be a debate. That's what many people do not understand.









[Edited by - BigC on 11-08-2008 2:39 PM]
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11/8/2008  12:48 PM
I already tried to make a point of the preseason being a good example of what to expect and I was told specifically by several people that 'it didn't matter'.

that's because it doesn't matter dude... go check what the SL MVP Jerryd Bayless is doing right now... if u'd judged him coming out of SL u'd have thought he'd be putting up monster #'s right about now, but he's pretty much doing what Gallinari's doing right now, which is a whole lotta non-production, only he's getting minutes & not producing while Gallo's not even playing... so once again, u can't get overly excited about summer leagues & pre-season... it's when the games actually count that u start judging guys, & it's still way too early in the season to even start.
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11/8/2008  1:11 PM
Posted by TMS:
I already tried to make a point of the preseason being a good example of what to expect and I was told specifically by several people that 'it didn't matter'.

that's because it doesn't matter dude... go check what the SL MVP Jerryd Bayless is doing right now... if u'd judged him coming out of SL u'd have thought he'd be putting up monster #'s right about now, but he's pretty much doing what Gallinari's doing right now, which is a whole lotta non-production, only he's getting minutes & not producing while Gallo's not even playing... so once again, u can't get overly excited about summer leagues & pre-season... it's when the games actually count that u start judging guys, & it's still way too early in the season to even start.

Preseason does not count as far as wins and loses but you can get an idea how some players will play. Of course you are going to have some players that are different. You can tell if a player has been working on some of their game or not. You can tell if a player has added a new spin move or baseline shot to their game. Preseason Lee was hitting his shot. In the regular season Lee is still hitting his shot. Zach and Chandler looked like they would be a force in preseason and the same thing has been said for them in regular season so far. Curry looked like a mess. And if he played right now he still would look out of place. Duhon looks the same.

Mike D'Antoni was taking preseason seriously. So in the Knicks case it does mean something. Other teams that might sit out their star player that's a different story.

Minutes and rotation are the major difference.

Name a player that looks different from preseason to regular season besides Jamal Crawford on the Knicks? Malik is scrub in preseason and he is a scrub in regular season.
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11/8/2008  1:22 PM
i agree, u can get a general sense of how the guy moves on the court & a general idea of his skillsets, but u can't get a gauge of how productive they're gonna be based on what u see in preseason or summer leagues... look at Nate last year, he looked amazing in summer league... people were getting all excited saying it would be his breakout season... he was solid off the bench but nothing to write home about... same goes for this year's summer leagues MVP Bayless so far... he's hardly seen any action & in the action he has seen he hasn't done much at all... u can't use Summer Leagues & Pre-season as a gauge of how these guys are gonna play when the games really matter & the coaches are using their real rotations.
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11/8/2008  2:22 PM
Posted by TMS:

i agree, u can get a general sense of how the guy moves on the court & a general idea of his skillsets, but u can't get a gauge of how productive they're gonna be based on what u see in preseason or summer leagues... look at Nate last year, he looked amazing in summer league... people were getting all excited saying it would be his breakout season... he was solid off the bench but nothing to write home about... same goes for this year's summer leagues MVP Bayless so far... he's hardly seen any action & in the action he has seen he hasn't done much at all... u can't use Summer Leagues & Pre-season as a gauge of how these guys are gonna play when the games really matter & the coaches are using their real rotations.

Good points. I think we have to look at Bayless different from Nate. I thought Nate was good in preseason and regular season last year. I'm sure if we got to see Nate in practice he would play the same way. Nate had a good preseason last season and played the same way in regular season. What you are not factoring in is minutes. Nate got 12 points last year in regular season last year with 26 minutes. The difference is in summer league and an the preseason Nate was getting 34 plus minutes. Some games he even played 38 minutes in summerleague. Do you doubt that if Nate was getting 34 plus mintues like this season he could not get about 17 points a game? Does Nate Robinson look any different to you in preseason and regular season this year?

Minutes has to be factor before you dismiss a player.

Some players put in a 100% in everything they do. Nate is that guy. Whereas a player like Jeffries looks good in practice but might be shaky in a game. Or AI looking bad in practice but good in a game. Should we say practice does not count? Every player is different.

The Bayless argurment is not something that either sides can debate on until he gets the same minutes he got summer league. How is someone going to be productive in 8 to 10 minutes? Especially when most players need to get a feel of the game before they are productive. Bayless was playing shooting guard in summer league now is only allowed to just make passes in the span of 10 minutes.

Another example is Wilson Chandler. Look at Wilson Chandler. Does he look any different from summer league, preseason, or regular season? Were people wrong about him? Preseason does give some indication on how a player might play. Is it the best example? No. But I would not dismiss it completely. When I watch preseason I looked to see what skills players have obtain for the summer. Not if they are going to be a star on not. I also look to see who well player execute plays.

We can't not factors other teams with the Knicks because the Knicks really were trying to win and set rotations.

Yes, we can always find players that go against the norm. For the Knicks we have probably 97% of the player that are playing the same way they played in preseason.

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11/8/2008  2:30 PM
Some players put in a 100% in everything they do. Nate is that guy. Whereas a player like Jeffries looks good in practice but might be shaky in a game. Or AI looking bad in practice but good in a game. Should we say practice does not count? Every player is different.

i think Jefferies is that player too, it's just that he sucks & the guys he's practicing against probably know this... when the games really matter he's getting 100% from the guys he's playing against... i don't doubt that Nate would play the same whether it's in practice, summer leagues or preseason, but other guys will... not everyone's an all out effort guy like Nate obviously, so numbers u see in practice & whatnot are inevitably skewed... that's why u can never place too much value on numbers, just on the way the guys are playing & how they're using their skillsets in the game.


come on bro, PRACTICE? we talkin' bout practice?
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11/8/2008  2:34 PM
Posted by Uptown:

The nerve of the Knicks cutting a playing who isn't even good enough to get drafted by the D League......I blame Isiah.


Jr, did not enter the draft to be picked by anyone, so it had nothing to do with him being good enough or not, he just didn't enter it.

This clip is from Hahn's article today about the Draft.
I know I made reference to the D-League draft taking place Friday night. I was told Friday that Patrick Ewing Jr. was not entered among the candidates for the draft, so he was not drafted. It really doesn't mean much, because Ewing Jr. can still sign with whomever he wishes in the D-League or anywhere else.
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11/8/2008  2:56 PM
Posted by Hoopsmeister:
Posted by Uptown:

The nerve of the Knicks cutting a playing who isn't even good enough to get drafted by the D League......I blame Isiah.


Jr, did not enter the draft to be picked by anyone, so it had nothing to do with him being good enough or not, he just didn't enter it.

This clip is from Hahn's article today about the Draft.
I know I made reference to the D-League draft taking place Friday night. I was told Friday that Patrick Ewing Jr. was not entered among the candidates for the draft, so he was not drafted. It really doesn't mean much, because Ewing Jr. can still sign with whomever he wishes in the D-League or anywhere else.

Thanks, that's it. Well, perhaps some moves are about to be made here and hopefully a roster spot is opened in the process.

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11/8/2008  3:09 PM
Posted by TMS:
2. Sung-Yun Bang (Start the jokes)

kid must be Korean... don't be joking about my bukkake brother bitches! or else i'll get my cousin Sum Yung Gai after your azzes.

Sung-Yun Bang Bam Bam Alba already.
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11/8/2008  3:48 PM
Isn't Ewing restricted from entering the NBADL draft because he was drafted in the NBA. I think it is in the CBA. I will check though.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 11-08-2008 3:49 PM]
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