Knicks talk Van Exel deal AND LAYDEN WILL MAKE MANY OF YOU EAT CROW AN PROVE THAT YOU ARE LIARS AND PESSIMESSTIC CHUMPS.





Nick Van Exel's crusade to join the Knicks this season could become a reality.
According to a league source, the Knicks and Warriors have discussed a trade that would bring Van Exel to New York and send power forward Kurt Thomas and point guard Charlie Ward to Golden State.

The potential deal makes sense for the Knicks, who have been in the market for an explosive point guard for the past decade. The Knicks also have an abundance of power forwards on their roster, including Antonio McDyess, Keith Van Horn and rookies Mike Sweetney and Maciej Lampe.

The Knicks would prefer to trade either Clarence Weatherspoon or Othella Harrington but have been unable to find any suitors.

Golden State got Van Exel from Dallas last month in a deal that included Antawn Jamison. Van Exel, who thrived in the playoffs last spring, said Wednesday that he would prefer to play for the Knicks.

By rerouting Van Exel to the Knicks, the Warriors could save a considerable amount of money. Van Exel is scheduled to make $11 million this season and $11.8 million in 2004-04. His contract for the 2005-06 season is not guaranteed.

Ward and Thomas will make a combined $11.3 million this season, which would make a deal for Van Exel work under the NBA's salary cap rules. However, Ward's $6 million contract can be bought out for $2 million.

Frank Isola

I think KT and Ward is a large price to pay for NVE BUT here are the positives of the deal.

1. NVE has 2 years left on his deal. When he is done. Vujanic is here and FWill should be ready to take over.

2. Trading KT gives Sweetney and Lampe more time on the court NOW.

The negative is this:
If Layden is as smart as you say, Playa then he does not deal his starting C without getting a C in return. The trade MUST include Foyle or Dampier. Either that or your starting C this season on opening night will be......Mike Doleac! NOT a good plan.

Ward is still a decent defnder and a hustle player. He and KT are all that are left in that mold. Losing these2 guys takes the little heart left out of NY.

Overall, I want NVE but not at the price of Ward and KT. Give them Eisley, give them Spoon or Knight but not KT UNLESS Foyle is coming back to NY with NVE.

And in ny NVE can share minutes with FWill, Eisley, or Vujanic if he ever appears. I am concerned about letting go of our C though - we desperately need to fill that spot. However, if they can pull a C and get Van X then this team will be moderately exciting to watch.

Mutombo has a buyout?

First everyone says that KT's points & rebs mean nothing because its on a losing team, now you say oh don't trade him because we need him !!! lol.... ROFL....

Sorry,I wouldnt do Ward and Thomas for Van Exel. You are buying his performance in the playoffs last year. yes he's an upgrade, but there is expense tothe upgrade and more uncertainty.

The only way to get this to stop is by actually trading for him and giving up a large scker package--> by the way jerry west DUMPED van exel when he was 27 for tyron lue--->and having NVE's knee go gimp again right after the knicks extend that final year.

You just look at this and say Houston-knee surgery --33max
mcdyess -knee surgery--32max
van exel knee surgery--29max

something is much more likely to go wrong as players age. To me, the ONLY answer is building a new core of players under the age of 25 that can play together for 8-10 years. all Van exel is is another road down medicore lane. what might make us better also makes us worse:>( and i have a good feeling that the cheapwarriors will do the deal. be interesting if ny is sckered into a first round draft choice + vujonic as well.

EXACTLY MARTIN.

I'm with Case on this one. As long as Houston's contract is in effect, we should have a squad that can put up points, while we wait for the younger talent to get their training wheels off. NVE doesn't stay on the books longer than H20, so that's fine with me.

Nick, H20, KVH, Dice/Sweets, Lampe (?)

Then later on, Houston, NVE, Dice all come off the Books, Sweetney & Lampe are grown up, Milos comes over and we sign TMac or LeBron.

Posted by Nedyal1:

"...But if Starbury thinks he is gritty enough and gives it his blessing, then I can live with it."

That's great! Nice re-incorporation.

Van socks.

Why the Van boys both wear their socks up so high!

additons of Van x and KVH, this team certainly is not getting more handsome!

i found the answer the trade could be allowed:

For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This two-month restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 71 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.)