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3 Way Trade Proposal (My Idea) Indiana, Golden State and NYK
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JayNYC
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11/1/2008  10:10 AM
Pacers Trade: Rasho Nesterovic (c) and Brandon Rush (sf/sg)
Receive: Al Harrington (PF/SF)

Warriors Trade: Al Harrington, Anthony Randolph, Marco Belinelli, and Marcus Williams
Receive: Eddy Curry (C), David Lee (PF) and Brandon Rush (sf/sg)

Knicks Trade: Eddy Curry and David Lee
Receive: Rasho Nesterovic (c), Anthony Randolph (PF/SF), Marco Belinelli (sg), & Marcus Williams (pg)

We actually would have a true 7 foot center. His salary expires at the end of this season! Anthony Randolph could be a building block for us at PF, play Gallinari at SF. Belinelli, don't know too much about him but hey the papers seem to believe that he'd be a good fit for D'Antoni.. played in Italy. Marcus Williams, I think he's another reclamation project.. decent skill set but hasn't put it together on the floor yet. His contract expires at the end of this season as well, could be worth the risk!!


Your Thoughts?

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oohah
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11/1/2008  10:30 AM
My thoughts are:

Al Harrington: The Pacers have had Al Harrington 2 times and want no part of him.


Marcus Williams
: He basically can't beat out anybody. He has had a backup PG spot handed to him twice, losing it to Eddy House and Darrel Armstrong. Then in Golden State, he had the starting PG spot handed to him in 2 ways: There was no true PG after Baron Davis left, then Monta Ellis got hurt. He then lost that spot to a rookie nobody has ever heard of. He plays selfishly, plays no D and sports some of the worst percentage seen outside of the Knicks. He can't hold onto PG when he is bequeathed time without any true competition. Marcus Williams sucks worse than any backcourt player we have except maybe Roberson. Why in the hell do we want him?

oohah

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JayNYC
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11/1/2008  11:05 AM
Posted by oohah:

My thoughts are:

Al Harrington: The Pacers have had Al Harrington 2 times and want no part of him.


Marcus Williams
: He basically can't beat out anybody. He has had a backup PG spot handed to him twice, losing it to Eddy House and Darrel Armstrong. Then in Golden State, he had the starting PG spot handed to him in 2 ways: There was no true PG after Baron Davis left, then Monta Ellis got hurt. He then lost that spot to a rookie nobody has ever heard of. He plays selfishly, plays no D and sports some of the worst percentage seen outside of the Knicks. He can't hold onto PG when he is bequeathed time without any true competition. Marcus Williams sucks worse than any backcourt player we have except maybe Roberson. Why in the hell do we want him?

oohah

Pacers reportedly targeting Al Harrington: (See the link for yourself)

http://hoopshype.com/

As for Marcus Williams, I said initially that he has "underachieved".. however, you can't deny that he is young and talented. I Don't think he is worst than every guard on this team "skill wise". My opinion, what would be the risk? He is an expiring contract. If he is a flop.. we have him on the books until seasons end, expediting our goal for 2010. Honestly though, I don't think he is as bad as you make him out oohah. But hey, this is a hypothetical trade scenario anyway. What about the other parts in the trade?

[Edited by - JayNYC on 11-01-2008 11:06 AM]
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11/1/2008  11:19 AM
Pacers reportedly targeting Al Harrington: (See the link for yourself)

How about I post 50 links where Randolph or Marbury is traded? Maybe Harrington ends up back with the pacer maybe he doesn't. If he is traded back it will be for very unequal value, but it is possible.
As for Marcus Williams, I said initially that he has "underachieved".. however, you can't deny that he is young and talented. I Don't think he is worst than every guard on this team "skill wise". My opinion, what would be the risk? He is an expiring contract. If he is a flop.. we have him on the books until seasons end, expediting our goal for 2010. Honestly though, I don't think he is as bad as you make him out oohah. But hey, this is a hypothetical trade scenario anyway. What about the other parts in the trade?

Everybody in the NBA is young and talented. Second he is as bad as I say. He had everything handed to him and he lost his position as backup PG to journeyman Eddie House who isn't even a PG and Darrel Armstrong who is 100 years old. The Nets gave up on him to sign Keyon Dooling who isn't that good either. Then in Golden State Marcus Williams has already lost his spot to a rookie who nobody knows about!

He is actually worse than I say. look at him play, he would be the worst defensive player in the Knicks backcourt and that is an indictment if I ever wrote one. Second he sports worse percentages than Jamal Crawford. I don't want to claim or reclaim him.

He is no longer an underachiever. he is a poor player.

As for the other parts of your trade scenario, I don't think they are realistic as constructed.

However, I like the idea of losing Eddy Corny in any way we can.

I like the idea of getting a real shooter in Bellinelli but it is starting to look like he isn't really an NBA player.

I don't have an opinion on Anthony Randolph.

I actually like Nesterovic, but I don't see the Pacers giving up on their most serviceable center.

In addition, I don't think we have the roster spots for 4 players if we only trade 3. But if we cut Williams immediately you might be onto something.

oohah

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11/1/2008  11:45 AM
The more you ponder this deal, the better it looks. This ain't bad. I didn't check to see if the money works, but if it does, I do that trade in a nano sec. if I'm the Knicks. Forget Rasho as a 7' for a sec (nothing more than a big warm body but he is an expiring contract so that's a plus), the other 3 guys would make excellent building blocks for the future. We'd have to include more in the deal, talent-wise and on numbers alone (we'd only be giving up 2 players, getting back 4) - so safe to say, Nate and say a future 2nd rounder would have to be a part of this minimum. Even so, I still pull the trigger. Only problem is, the other teams wouldn't go for this as is - we'd have to sweeten it up a little.

Indy: I'm reading this morning that they supposedly are interested in bringing back Harrington, so that's a plus right there. But I think they'd need a little more in the deal. Plus where would he fit in this deal you came up with - they've got Troy Murphy at PF for big money for this season plus 2 more, and Danny Granger (who's re-uping for 5 yrs, $60+ mil.) and Mike Dunleavy at the 3. Dunleavy's also on the hook for big money - this year+2 more. Dunleavy or Troy Murphy might have to go in any deal to bring back Harrington, but maybe they just want the depth, so maybe not. Plus, Brandon Rush is a big strong young 2 guard - a fairly high draft pick and a champion last year. If they dealt him they'd suffer big at the 2 (still have Eddie Jones around but he's too old now to have any kind of an impact anymore). Maybe that's where Nate would come in though.

GS: They'd be giving up a ton of young talent here (they love Randolph, I think he's better than Brandan Wright already - he's the jewel of the entire deal) and all they're getting back is a waste of a 7' footer in Curry who'd be even more oil and vinegar with Donnie Nelson and his system than he is here with D'Antoni (and where does he fit with Biedrins?) and a hustle player who on the verge of getting a big payday (now it'd be GS's problem to sign him - might turn into a real burden esp. if Lee and his agent get unrealistic with their contract demands). Tell you what though, they don't like Belinelli & they would like Rush. They might need a little more coming back though - they're thin at the point already, so if they dealt us Williams, they'd need a PG back. Maybe include Mardy and a future 2nd rounder to sweeten it up. Despite the constant negativity surrounding Collins, he's got some upside (good talent evaluators around the league know it) but like Curry, he's not really a Nelson up-tempo kinda guy so I don't think that could get it done either. But it'd be closer....

I like the deal (love it for us) but we'd have to pony up more to even get a discussion going.


[Edited by - finestrg on 11-01-2008 11:55 AM]
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11/1/2008  11:52 AM
Posted by JayNYC:

Pacers Trade: Rasho Nesterovic (c) and Brandon Rush (sf/sg)
Receive: Al Harrington (PF/SF)

Warriors Trade: Al Harrington, Anthony Randolph, Marco Belinelli, and Marcus Williams
Receive: Eddy Curry (C), David Lee (PF) and Brandon Rush (sf/sg)

Knicks Trade: Eddy Curry and David Lee
Receive: Rasho Nesterovic (c), Anthony Randolph (PF/SF), Marco Belinelli (sg), & Marcus Williams (pg)

We actually would have a true 7 foot center. His salary expires at the end of this season! Anthony Randolph could be a building block for us at PF, play Gallinari at SF. Belinelli, don't know too much about him but hey the papers seem to believe that he'd be a good fit for D'Antoni.. played in Italy. Marcus Williams, I think he's another reclamation project.. decent skill set but hasn't put it together on the floor yet. His contract expires at the end of this season as well, could be worth the risk!!


Your Thoughts?

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3 Way Trade Proposal (My Idea) Indiana, Golden State and NYK

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