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oohah
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10/31/2008  6:27 PM
Accoring to the front page of UK, Marbury is inactive. That is the proper thing to do.

Treat a man like a man. It makes more sense.

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10/31/2008  6:29 PM
His days as a Knick are definitely coming to an end.
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10/31/2008  6:33 PM
Posted by NYK3:

His days as a Knick are definitely coming to an end.

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10/31/2008  6:33 PM
good move by WALSH if that's the case... WALSH shoulda done this before the season opener.
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10/31/2008  6:39 PM
Posted by TMS:

good move by WALSH if that's the case... WALSH shoulda done this before the season opener.

Are you trying to say the Marbury benching in game was not D'Antoni?

I can accept that Walsh has a hand in this, but you cannot honestly think that D'Antoni is not making choices about who he wants to play.

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10/31/2008  6:53 PM
huh? dude, the benching was completely MDA's choice... Marbury being active on this roster is up to Dolan & Walsh... MDA has no control over that... he can only play the guys he wants to play... the rest is up to the front office... u guys that are crying that Marbury was somehow mistreated by MDA the other night fail to realize this.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-31-2008 3:54 PM]
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10/31/2008  7:02 PM
Posted by TMS:

huh? dude, the benching was completely MDA's choice... Marbury being active on this roster is up to Dolan & Walsh... MDA has no control over that... he can only play the guys he wants to play... the rest is up to the front office... u guys that are crying that Marbury was somehow mistreated by MDA the other night fail to realize this.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-31-2008 3:54 PM]

Dude you're splitting hairs here. Obviously Walsh is the only one who can make Marbury officially inactive. The question is where the root of this comes from. I think it is stupid to play a guy all through training camp and then bench him out of the blue. I can't tell if you think the root of this is Walsh or D'antoni or Dolan.

Personally I think it is poor behavior by D'Antoni. It has nothing to do with Marbury's past, the point is creating drama where there should be none, whoever made the decision. Marbury should have known he would sit, we should have known, just like we did Curry.

If D'Antoni decided to pull the rug in game one all by himself, that is bad. If he was ordered to, that is worse. The only right way to go about it was to tell Marbury he was inactive previous to the season and make it public knowledge. Now we have a soap opera.

Not to TMS here but the site: Is this going to be another one of those LB things where the coach can do no wrong and he is some sort of moral compass, "breaking people down to build them back up"? "Playing the right way", and cliche-cliche? If it is, I might need to take a break because the messiah complex that takes over some guys is annoying to me.

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10/31/2008  7:09 PM
i'm basing my opinions on what we know, not stuff we want to read into... MDA didn't play Steph, he explained his reasons why he didn't... i believe him... i don't think MDA has a personal vendetta he wishes to carry out against Steph to ruin what's left of his career... i don't buy that MDA enjoys watching Steph stewing at the end of the bench while a few of his fans chant for him to be put into the game... IMO i believe that MDA wants to be rid of this sideshow once & for all so he can focus on basketball for a change & i believe that there are 13 other guys in the Knicks' lockerroom who feel the exact same way... MDA did what MDA had every right to do... Marbury being here is not MDA's call, it's Dolan's & Walsh's.

so read into this any thing u want if that floats ur boat... agree w/the benching or don't agree w/it, that's up to u... i'm happy as hell that Marbs is not going to be figuring into our plans this season... i've been calling for this franchise to move on w/o him all summer long & arguing w/Steph supporters over it... it's good to see the head coach agrees that this is the right course for the future of this franchise... personally i'm ready to move forward & have been ready for a long time now... apparently some Knick fans aren't.
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10/31/2008  7:20 PM
btw, that last comment was not meant as a dig at you oohah... it was in reference to all the turds at MSG who still believe that Steph should be seeing playing time after all the crap he's put this franchise through over the years.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-31-2008 4:21 PM]
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10/31/2008  7:24 PM
Now just release him. Why wasn't this done prior to the season to make room for Ewing jr.? There is no incentive for Marbury to take less money now.
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10/31/2008  7:29 PM
releasing Marbs & signing PEJ would be the best thing for the Knicks to do from a PR perspective right now... then maybe they could finally get out from under that dark cloud that's been hovering over this team for the past 4 years.
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10/31/2008  7:36 PM
Posted by TMS:

releasing Marbs & signing PEJ would be the best thing for the Knicks to do from a PR perspective right now... then maybe they could finally get out from under that dark cloud that's been hovering over this team for the past 4 years.

No way. There are many more that need to follow him out the door. Starting with your boy, Crawful. He can take Curry, Q Rich and James with him too.
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10/31/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Now just release him. Why wasn't this done prior to the season to make room for Ewing jr.? There is no incentive for Marbury to take less money now.

$21 million?? Nooooooooooo way they do it! I'm trying to imagine it and keep saying to myself 'no way in hell'.
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10/31/2008  7:39 PM
I hate to say it, but the money is more important to get back into order, then pretty much keeping all' of our players. It has to be done. Now I'm going to go cry, because I can't believe I said that.
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10/31/2008  7:41 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:

releasing Marbs & signing PEJ would be the best thing for the Knicks to do from a PR perspective right now... then maybe they could finally get out from under that dark cloud that's been hovering over this team for the past 4 years.

No way. There are many more that need to follow him out the door. Starting with your boy, Crawful. He can take Curry, Q Rich and James with him too.

i'm not attached to Jamal, if he gets traded so be it... i can stand him being on the team cuz he can do things like what he did on Opening Day & carry this team scoring wise... he's not the main problem w/this team... Marbury is... Curry's next to go... Q & Turd's contracts have no bearing on our longterm cap situation & have little to no trade value right now so it's not worth complaining about either way.
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10/31/2008  7:47 PM
I'm still baffled' as to why dolan re-signed Isiah again. Just baffling!
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10/31/2008  7:57 PM
Posted by TMS:

good move by WALSH if that's the case... WALSH shoulda done this before the season opener.

I think the timing is right. Let Marbury build up and then completely betray and back stab him. He wasn't expecting it and now he's belittled by it and theirs nothing he can do. I think inside of D'Antoni's mind, he probably already set up his scenario. State your case in camp, state it again in preseason if they can't do it, then dump them hard. And it's exactly what Marbury and Curry did. Curry couldn't handle the stress (hospital, wanting to come out of the game) and Marbury tried to get ****y again.

That's why they are on the bench and being punished (threatened really). One for ****iness and the other for not getting into shape. Nobody else opened a BIG mouth and so you can see what's happening. I think Brown is getting some real nice payback right now over this. He tried and got shipped out. D'Antoni is playing mind games and it's got Marbury and Curry nervous if you ask me.

They both better keep their mouths shut if they want anymore 'GUEST APPEARANCES'.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/31/2008  8:02 PM
LB's mind games were way beyond the scope of what MDA's doing here... LB had his own agenda & wanted to make Isiah's players look as bad as possible cuz he was angling for his job... LB confused Marbury at every turn & fought w/Marbs using the media... Marbs was equally as unprofessional & did the same by undermining his head coach & causing huge dissention in the lockerroom... MDA is not trying to win Walsh's job, he's just doing what he thinks will benefit this team over the long haul, & i believe the last thing MDA wants to do is to cause dissention in his lockerroom... the next move is up to Dolan & Walsh... i hope they got the message already... there's really nothing else MDA can do at this point to get the message across.
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10/31/2008  8:07 PM
Interesting about what you say about the coach and it being in Donnie & dolan's hands now. It could be orders from Donnie to Mike, to make Marbury's life miserable to force dolan to make a move. Two against one. Just like when Isiah and dolan ganged up on Brown. Interesting thoughts here, now that I think about it more.

But the real problem is 'does it out weigh 21 million dollars. Fiscally, no it doesn't. And Walsh has already showed that, with the Jr. cut and Roberson keeper.

So the moral of this story is 'it could end up back firing on someone'. In that case, we don't have to play Marbury, even though we pay him. Make his life miserable and keep it that way. Keep him shut up. I think the rest of these players are more excited about D'Antoni's system and thriving on it, rather then spend time worrying about Marbury causing distractions in the locker room. I say sic Nate on him when he's in the shower.

[Edited by - 4949 on 10-31-2008 8:11 PM]
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10/31/2008  10:21 PM
Hey guys, i'm new to this site. I have always been a knick geek growing up. Although i'm still in high school, I'd like to think I know a little something about basketball. I'm currently a junior and i was on my jv basketball team for psal. Unfortunately, i was suspended from my school and I can't play varsity this year. I have browsed around this website for quite a while and i found it interesting with what other knick fans have to say. Unlike some of you posters, I'm a Marbury fan and he is my favorite player. Although most of you guys want him gone, I don't believe that he is the problem to this Knicks team. I find it quite intriguing how scrubs like Malik Rose, with all his useless tricks, and inexperienced guards like Mardy Collins and Anthony Roberson are getting playing time over than Marbury.

Maybe because I am a Marbury fan, Coach D's decisions in the 4th quarter pissed me off. Playing on a team myself, although it isn't professional basketball, i know that a team effort is much more important than individual talent. However, when the team is up by 20+ points, and your most talented player is being called out by fans in the audience, but still ends up rotting in the end of the pine, that is some straight bull****.

Maybe perhaps the days of Marbury as a Knick is gone, but i can say that he didn't let me down as a fan. Whenever i came to the garden, i could always expect a good showing from Steph. Most people find this man ignorant and ****y, which he probably is, he does have compassion for the people. This was a man who donated at least $500 grand to the Hurricane Katrina fund and a man who gave Leonardo Barbosa a brand new Lexus when Barbosa just came into the league. This man even spends time with the less fortunate people and donates part of his profit from his sneaker-line.

If Marbury goes, it is only rightly so because his talent doesn't deserve to rot at the end of the bench.

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