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10/29/2008  11:23 PM
D'Antoni and Knicks Make a Statement
By Howard Beck

In his first meaningful night as the Knicks’ head coach, Mike D’Antoni delivered just about everything a suspicious fan base could want: entertaining play, a cohesive team and a victory over an old rival.
In the process, he also made a symbolic break with the inglorious recent past. D’Antoni left Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry on the bench Wednesday night when the Knicks grinded out a 120-115 victory over the Miami Heat at Madison Square Garden.

The decision to bench Curry had been announced a week earlier. But excising Marbury was an unexpected, bold and potentially disruptive move.
Marbury was already unhappy at being relegated to a reserve role in the preseason. His response to Wednesday’s benching could determine how much longer he plays for his hometown team. Team officials considered cutting him before training camp.

The rest of the Knicks seemed unfazed. Jamal Crawford erased memories of his preseason slump by scoring a team-high 29 points. Four teammates also finished in double figures, led by Zach Randolph (20). David Lee had 16 points, 11 rebounds and 5 assists.

Crawford’s October malaise had topped D’Antoni’s list of preseason concerns. But Crawford made his first four shots, including a pair of 3-pointers, as the Knicks took control early.

Miami, with a rookie coach (Erik Spoelstra) and two rookies in the lineup (Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers), looked wobbly in the first half, giving up a 19-2 run to fall behind by double digits. The Knicks led by 23 in the third quarter.

The Heat rallied late behind the hot hand of Daequan Cook and knocked the deficit down to 5 by the final minute. Cook’s final 3-pointer made the score 116-112 with 20.9 seconds left. The Knicks held on with free throws by Crawford and Nate Robinson.

Dwyane Wade, coming off his memorable Olympic performance, led the Heat with 26 points. But he went 9 for 24 from the field and fouled out with 1 minute 25 seconds left.

D’Antoni never announced that Marbury was out of the rotation. But he dropped rhetorical hints that something might happen. He began emphasizing the importance of developing the Knicks’ prospects, Wilson Chandler and the rookie Danilo Gallinari. He repeatedly stressed the need for a change in culture and chemistry. Marbury, it could be safely concluded, is viewed a hindrance to all of that.

Ninety minutes before tip-off, D’Antoni — without naming names — drew his final line in the sand, separating the in crowd from the out.
“We will have probably eight or nine guys tonight,” he said. “There will be some guys ticked off.”

And the rotation is not likely to change much, he said, even if the Knicks stumble.

“One thing as a coach, I just want my players to know that I trust you, I believe in you,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to pick who I like. They will perform and go, and I’ll suffer with them and I’ll live with them. And the other guys will try to kill me.”

Marbury and Curry will lead the insurgency. Both were longtime starters with big salaries and big expectations. Each had been advertised as a franchise cornerstone when the Knicks acquired them.

Now they are buried on the bench behind Malik Rose, Mardy Collins and a 20-year-old rookie. Chandler and Robinson were the first players off the bench. Rose and Gallinari came next, late in the first quarter.

As D’Antoni’s plan gradually came into focus, Marbury sat stoically at the far end of the bench, next to Anthony Roberson. As the second quarter opened — with a backcourt of Collins and Robinson — Marbury stared straight ahead, rocking slightly in his seat. When Randolph made a pair of free throws, he clapped politely and smirked slightly.

At halftime, Curry and Marbury walked off the court together, a pair of befuddled former stars with uncertain futures. Q-Tip (who performed a new version of “Go New York Go”) played a bigger role in the evening than either of them.

Marbury spent the second half on the bench with his teammates, but Curry never reappeared from the locker room. Pressed for an explanation, a team spokesman said Curry was icing a sore right knee.

With the Knicks surging to a 15-point halftime lead, no one in the stands seemed to miss the former starters. Finally, as the Knicks pushed the lead to 25 late in the third quarter, a group of fans began a chant of “We want Steph!” Each time they did, a dissenting group of fans responded with boos.
The crowd generally seemed unsure what to make of their madeover team. They offered tepid applause through most of the pregame introductions. They roared only twice, for D’Antoni and David Lee. Marbury got a mix of cheers and boos. Curry got only boos.

Q-Tip did not fare much better, trying in vain to get the fans to echo his chants of “Newww York.”

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Although he dropped Eddy Curry from the rotation, Mike D’Antoni said the ban is not necessarily permanent. Curry reported to camp out of shape and missed nearly two weeks because of an illness. “Probably he needed those two weeks more than anybody,” D’Antoni said. “We want him to be a factor. I want him to play really well. And if he does we’ll be a better team, no doubt about it.” ... For a 20-year-old rookie who missed most of training camp, Danilo Gallinari is not lacking in self-confidence. D’Antoni recalled asking Gallinari if he was ready to play. “He says, ‘Well, if you want to win, I’ll play,’ ” D’Antoni said, laughing. “Spoken like a true Italian.
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10/29/2008  11:24 PM
I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.
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10/29/2008  11:28 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

ROFL. Stop pumping your neg energy into my man's post. What's wrong with you?
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10/29/2008  11:35 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

ROFL. Stop pumping your neg energy into my man's post. What's wrong with you?

LOL. I'm still baffled by that, I mean come on...
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10/29/2008  11:35 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

I was glad to see Gallo get a few minutes. I always hate when our coaches would resist playing our kids early and often to let them get their feet wet. By the end of the year that can pay big dividends. Gallo will be much more confident if he gets in some games and can have a little success at some point.

Overall I love what MDA has been doing with the team. I find it funny that anyone would have a problem with what he's done. How many years have we cried for our coach to play the guys that hustle and really want it? Well that's what he's doing. As for Steph, he's got to realize that this isn't about him anymore. He's destined to be moved or just let go at the end of the year, so... I expect that if we need him MDA will play him but, early in the year we've got to get a look at guys like Mardy, Nate, Gallo and Chan. This is all about evaluating so we can know who to keep and who to send packing.
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10/29/2008  11:38 PM
“One thing as a coach, I just want my players to know that I trust you, I believe in you,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to pick who I like. They will perform and go, and I’ll suffer with them and I’ll live with them. And the other guys will try to kill me.”

LOL this guy is so hard to dislike. A true leader has to stick to his decisions and he seems ready to do that. That was a bold thing to do, leaving Marbury and Curry in the bench. He is trying to send different messages to both of them. I understand Curry's, but if you aren't planning on buying Marb out, what does he expect from him?

D’Antoni recalled asking Gallinari if he was ready to play. “He says, ‘Well, if you want to win, I’ll play,’ ” D’Antoni said, laughing. “Spoken like a true Italian.

Ahh, Gallo is such a nice player to root for personality-wise. I hope he is healthy enough to show he belongs in the league and will be an important player for the Knicks.
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10/29/2008  11:39 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

I was glad to see Gallo get a few minutes. I always hate when our coaches would resist playing our kids early and often to let them get their feet wet. By the end of the year that can pay big dividends. Gallo will be much more confident if he gets in some games and can have a little success at some point.

Overall I love what MDA has been doing with the team. I find it funny that anyone would have a problem with what he's done. How many years have we cried for our coach to play the guys that hustle and really want it? Well that's what he's doing. As for Steph, he's got to realize that this isn't about him anymore. He's destined to be moved or just let go at the end of the year, so... I expect that if we need him MDA will play him but, early in the year we've got to get a look at guys like Mardy, Nate, Gallo and Chan. This is all about evaluating so we can know who to keep and who to send packing.

I agree Nix. Overall I liked the way that D'Antoni managed the roster tonight. He got Gallo's feet wet, I would imagine his minutes will increase every game, he played Chandler a ton, Nate a ton, he played Collins enough, and most importantly he let Marbury and Curry sit the bench. I think if anyone was curious on whose the boss of this team, that D'Antoni made it pretty clear that he is, which is a great thing. He's going to play his rotation, which is going to be the guys he thinks he has the best chance of winning with. I think this is something we've all been waiting for.

Let's see how things play out though, I'm very optimistic, but also very aware that things can head south, and quickly.
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10/29/2008  11:40 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

ROFL. Stop pumping your neg energy into my man's post. What's wrong with you?

LOL. I'm still baffled by that, I mean come on...

Negative people usually are. Or oh' wait, I'm delusional, right?
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10/29/2008  11:43 PM
Marbs should just collect his check and wait it out. Root outright for the other team and go to sleep on the bench. He has nothing to lose at this point. Good make for some good articles. Take a note from Curry. Just don't come out in the 2nd half.
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10/29/2008  11:45 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

ROFL. Stop pumping your neg energy into my man's post. What's wrong with you?

LOL. I'm still baffled by that, I mean come on...

Negative people usually are. Or oh' wait, I'm delusional, right?

No doubt, you are totally delusional.
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10/29/2008  11:45 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:

“One thing as a coach, I just want my players to know that I trust you, I believe in you,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to pick who I like. They will perform and go, and I’ll suffer with them and I’ll live with them. And the other guys will try to kill me.”

LOL this guy is so hard to dislike. A true leader has to stick to his decisions and he seems ready to do that. That was a bold thing to do, leaving Marbury and Curry in the bench. He is trying to send different messages to both of them. I understand Curry's, but if you aren't planning on buying Marb out, what does he expect from him?

I think he expects Marbury to either negotiate a buyout for a lot less, or get him suspended for insubordination when he inevitably blows up and leaves the team on the plane ride to PHX.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/29/2008  11:46 PM
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“One thing as a coach, I just want my players to know that I trust you, I believe in you,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to pick who I like. They will perform and go, and I’ll suffer with them and I’ll live with them. And the other guys will try to kill me.”

LOL this guy is so hard to dislike. A true leader has to stick to his decisions and he seems ready to do that. That was a bold thing to do, leaving Marbury and Curry in the bench. He is trying to send different messages to both of them. I understand Curry's, but if you aren't planning on buying Marb out, what does he expect from him?

D’Antoni recalled asking Gallinari if he was ready to play. “He says, ‘Well, if you want to win, I’ll play,’ ” D’Antoni said, laughing. “Spoken like a true Italian.

Ahh, Gallo is such a nice player to root for personality-wise. I hope he is healthy enough to show he belongs in the league and will be an important player for the Knicks.

He's also proving that the Knicks can definately win without those two. And what a genius move. He put them 'both' on the bench and on call together. He didn't just pick one, so he's daring them to start some **** with him and he'll show them up this time, if they wanna cry. Isiah would threaten to do it, not do it and let them run all over him like the whimp he is. Marbury owned Isiah and dolan. D'Antoni lays the law down and let's see what their going to do about it. I dare them.
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10/29/2008  11:48 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm pumped by the way the Knicks played tonight but also pissed at the 4th quarter they gave up. I think part of the 4th quarter problem was that D'Antoni is still trying to figure out his rotation and that the Knicks players were just plain tired.

I still woulda loved to see a little more Gallo though. Looking real forward to Friday.

ROFL. Stop pumping your neg energy into my man's post. What's wrong with you?

LOL. I'm still baffled by that, I mean come on...

Negative people usually are. Or oh' wait, I'm delusional, right?

No doubt, you are totally delusional.

yeah, but I'm still right.
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10/29/2008  11:51 PM
Posted by kam77:
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“One thing as a coach, I just want my players to know that I trust you, I believe in you,” D’Antoni said. “I’m going to pick who I like. They will perform and go, and I’ll suffer with them and I’ll live with them. And the other guys will try to kill me.”

LOL this guy is so hard to dislike. A true leader has to stick to his decisions and he seems ready to do that. That was a bold thing to do, leaving Marbury and Curry in the bench. He is trying to send different messages to both of them. I understand Curry's, but if you aren't planning on buying Marb out, what does he expect from him?

I think he expects Marbury to either negotiate a buyout for a lot less, or get him suspended for insubordination when he inevitably blows up and leaves the team on the plane ride to PHX.

Man' do you think D'Antoni was waiting to back stab him the whole time. I mean he made the 'I'm proud of him' speech a few weeks ago and now is kicking him in the ass. I bet Marbury doesn't know what to think right now. Scary to know that your biggest fan is after your job and ready to kick you off as soon as he gets a chance. This is great! The showdown we been waiting for. I want Marbury to know he's been kicked in the ass and that he can't do a thing about it. ha!
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10/29/2008  11:55 PM
I wouldn't put it past D'antoni to have orchestrated this for a while now.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/29/2008  11:56 PM
Posted by kam77:

I wouldn't put it past D'antoni to have orchestrated this for a while now.

Then this is going to be a great season. LOL!
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10/30/2008  12:15 AM
Great time to be a Knicks sports writer,
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10/30/2008  12:32 AM
I think it was planned, too.
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10/30/2008  12:34 AM
They needed fans and writers to cool off on the Steph thing, which did happen a bit, to have us think he was part of the rotation...

So they made it seem as though he was part of it all.
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10/30/2008  6:57 AM
Posted by PresIke:

They needed fans and writers to cool off on the Steph thing, which did happen a bit, to have us think he was part of the rotation...

So they made it seem as though he was part of it all.

Diabolical. I love it!
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