King, I dont get why you think the Knicks are the mercy of other teams. Sure the Knicks can use David as a chip in a trade, but that doesn't mean they won't resign him this summer if they don't trade him. I don't think Walsh cares if Lee's overall price goes up 8-10 million if he has a good year, I think Walsh would almost rather that because if he has that kind of year, the Knicks are in a great position.

Posted by nyk4ever:

King, I dont get why you think the Knicks are the mercy of other teams. Sure the Knicks can use David as a chip in a trade, but that doesn't mean they won't resign him this summer if they don't trade him. I don't think Walsh cares if Lee's overall price goes up 8-10 million if he has a good year, I think Walsh would almost rather that because if he has that kind of year, the Knicks are in a great position.

if the knicks are serious about 2010, they can't sign david. in truth, they can't sign anybody unless they make two unbelievable trades.

Why can't the Knicks trade Lee? I thought players get signed and traded all the time, when restricted free agents.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Why can't the Knicks trade Lee? I thought players get signed and traded all the time, when restricted free agents.

lee can be s&t after this season. but that's only really the case when a player wants to go to another team and his old team wants something in return.

i.e. crawford to the knicks.

he finished 4 years with the bulls and was a restricted free agent. only way the knicks could lure him here was to offer him $56 mil, otherwise they would offer the MLE and hope chicago doesn't match. the bulls didn't want him but they used the knicks to also dump jyd's contract as well. so the bulls accomodated the knicks b/c they got to dump jyd.

now, if lee is presented with a big offer (roughly 9 mil a year), knicks will have to either match, let him walk for nothing, or try to engineer a sign and trade. if the other team has $9 mil in cap space to make it happen, knicks are sh it outta luck. but if the other team is over the cap, then the knicks could try to work out a sign and trade. david's objective is to get an offer from a team under the cap so that leaves the knicks with no leverage.

I hate using the money philosophy with guys you want to keep. I mean if Donnie really wants to keep him and pay him. Does he go out and hope Lee doesn't have a great year just so he can underpay him. It's part of the game but I just hate it myself.

TrueBlue mentioned on Realgm, the real possibility that Lebron doesn't want to leave and the Cavs will be looking to pick up Bosh in 2010 to get to play with Lebron. That makes sense to me.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Why can't the Knicks trade Lee? I thought players get signed and traded all the time, when restricted free agents.

lee can be s&t after this season. but that's only really the case when a player wants to go to another team and his old team wants something in return.

i.e. crawford to the knicks.

he finished 4 years with the bulls and was a restricted free agent. only way the knicks could lure him here was to offer him $56 mil, otherwise they would offer the MLE and hope chicago doesn't match. the bulls didn't want him but they used the knicks to also dump jyd's contract as well. so the bulls accomodated the knicks b/c they got to dump jyd.

now, if lee is presented with a big offer (roughly 9 mil a year), knicks will have to either match, let him walk for nothing, or try to engineer a sign and trade. if the other team has $9 mil in cap space to make it happen, knicks are sh it outta luck. but if the other team is over the cap, then the knicks could try to work out a sign and trade. david's objective is to get an offer from a team under the cap so that leaves the knicks with no leverage.

David can rejoin Larry Brown and be a Bobcat.

everyone's saying the right things & acting the right way when the season begins... once this team starts to lose games we'll see which one of these guys are worth keeping & who we should dump... character reveals itself in times of hardship... i have no doubt that D Lee is 1 of the guys who we'll wanna hold onto tho.