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If or when Laydown gets fired, who would you suggest as a replacement?
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WOODMANnYk
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8/30/2003  3:38 PM
Personally, If Laydown eventually becomes LAYDONE, i think Dolan should use that tiny brain of his and look into recruiting former Philly GM/Pres Pat Croce, a well respected man. Pat definitely have the ability to rise this Knicks team from the dead. He's a risk-taker, knows how to evaluate talent and built a strong relationship with the players and staff members. Not only did he bring enthusiam within the phildephia area, he supported and backed his best player, Allen Iverson. If he were the current G.M now and realize size at the small forward spot was a need, he would've not traded for Van Horn. He would've found a way getting Antoine Walker or Adur-Rahim. Looking @ some former knick players as G.M, we have Willis Reed who eventually came back to once again join the front office and possibly Bernard King. WHat do you Knick fans suggest as a replacement for Scott Laydown?????
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8/30/2003  4:00 PM
Pat croce is not really a GM. he is more on the business marketing end of the spectrun+ he owns 70% of that new Slam Ball league that is pretty popular.

Im going to give Laydumb a chance here. In the last two years he hasnt done badly. If Mcdyess didnt go down, many would be eating crow including me. I still wouldnt have made the trade but it was a risk that was worth taking IMHO.

We had a speculative draft that should end up well. In retrospect, we shouldve take Lampe at 9 and they SHOULDVE KNOWN to take him at 9. And that doesnt take anything away from Sweetney but I didnt know Maciej was 7-1 with sneakers on and 265pounds!

The Van horn trade , eh lateral but we needed a divorce from Spree.

When I say the names Mcdyess Van horn Sweetney and Lampe over the last 2 years I cant cry about that. No panic moves, no crazy trades or giving away draft picks in the last 2 yeasr, no crazy signings. locking up Lampe for 4 years.

I think the guy had no clue what NY was all about and that Dolan had some influences on trading all of those draft picks for Harrington Strickland and Jackson.
Maybe if they are allowed todo their jobs and rebuild on the go here without panic, he can do a decent job.

But if Laydumb is gone,I want a talent evaluator not a rah rah man. Im thinking John Calipari--who wanted to draft Kobe Bryant but was forced into drafting Kittles. He was also invloved in Marbury and Van Horn. he knows talent and is a good communicator. But for now I think laydumb should stand one more draft and offseason. I would like to see some more aggression at the trade deadline to see if we can get another pick this year with Thomas as bait.
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8/30/2003  4:54 PM
Nice take Briggs......

We did get a new Gm by the way, when Dolan took the shackles off and reailzed we need to get rebuilt, laydog was able to think long term. That requires doing nothing and letting the draft and contracts to come to you.

Willis Reed was awful as GM of the nets. Bernard King? Great player 15 years ago, why him as an executive. Jordan sucked, Thomas unremarkable, Magic Johnson was a clown as coach.

Laydog is not getting fired. He sucked becacause his owner wanted a stupid buisiness model followed.

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8/30/2003  9:03 PM
If the GM goes so does Chaney. In that case id want Mark Jackson at coach he has been itching to get a head coaching job. NY have said he is in their future. At GM id try to convince Magic Johnson to do it. Hes a smart businessman plus players would love to play for him.
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8/30/2003  10:11 PM
Neydal you are right on point!
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8/31/2003  6:56 AM
Posted by Nedyal1:


Willis Reed was awful as GM of the nets. Bernard King? Great player 15 years ago, why him as an executive. Jordan sucked, Thomas unremarkable, Magic Johnson was a clown as coach.
Laydog is not getting fired. He sucked becacause his owner wanted a stupid buisiness model followed.

Just because Willis wasn't your typical G.M. for stinken N.J. doesn't necessarily mean he'll follow the same pattern with NY. Hey, he might probably do a better job than Laydown. Sorry to informed you NEYDAL1 but when you said "Laydog is not getting fired" You probably need to wake up and take those glasses off but i guaranteed you if the Knicks don't make the playoffs this yr and McDyess don't come back, LAYDOWN will become LAYDONE!!!!
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8/31/2003  7:26 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Im going to give Laydumb a chance here. In the last two years he hasnt done badly.

In retrospect, we shouldve take Lampe at 9 and they SHOULDVE KNOWN to take him at 9. And that doesnt take anything away from Sweetney but I didnt know Maciej was 7-1 with sneakers on and 265pounds!

The Van horn trade , eh lateral but we needed a divorce from Spree.

But if Laydumb is gone,I want a talent evaluator not a rah rah man. Im thinking John Calipari--

Your 1st point: Concerning Laydown hasn't done badly in the lasy 2 yrs. There are too many knick fans out there who thinks otherwise and by putting that on the thread, i warn you, you'll get eaten alive with those statements.
2nd point: it was a good decision by picking Sweetney @ 9 and Lampe @ 30. Knicks ended up with two lottery picks. If he had chose Lampe @ 9, then whoever you picked @ 30 would've been more of a project. No one would've been appealing after the 29th pick unless you're targeting Mario Austin or Jerome Beasley who i still think Sweetney is better than.
Point 3) If you're gonna divorce Spree, use Van Horn as a very last resort. Im sure laydown could've chose a better player for Spree.

Point4) After the N.J fiasco with Calipari and how his style with the players is similiar to Carlesimo, he's all but done coaching professionally in the N.B.A.>>>
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9/2/2003  1:49 PM
Remember when Joe Torre sucked as a manager at Atlanta and with the Mets! When Yanks hired him I thought it was crazy!

Experience is a great teacher! Joe took all that failed him and became a great manager.

Mark Jackson has shown nothing yet, and I cannot understand why so many want Magic Johnson? First off the guy is a part owner of the lakes, and when he tried buying into the sonics, he wanted an unreasonable amount for his share. Second, he showed very poorly as a coach. Was not even on the same planet as his players.

Players play for money. They won't play for magic. When Knicks become contenders you will have Gary Payton players want to come and get a ring, or NYC player return to bring glory AFTER they made enough money for 10 lifetimes!

What most GMs knew about lampe was as he fell further he would have less money to buy himself out. That became the crap shoot.

IF Laydog traded that pick, whom many suggested it be thown in on some trade last year, it would have been a crime. That pick is more valuable than the last 10 in the first round because of the salary ramafications in some unique situations, and making a trade with a shoyt teams second round pick was a calculated move on Laydog. and yes, lady luck put us in the postion to grab Lampe! Being so tainted to not give him even a small prop is not fair.

The Grass is always greener......and we all want a winner now! But the very thing that impatience creates is the type of team we have had the last few years. It will take time to mature these youngsters.

Chaney is a good (not great) coach and good man. He kept a team together last year and got a lot out of what he had.
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9/2/2003  4:05 PM
Posted by falcindor:

If the GM goes so does Chaney. In that case id want Mark Jackson at coach he has been itching to get a head coaching job. NY have said he is in their future. At GM id try to convince Magic Johnson to do it. Hes a smart businessman plus players would love to play for him.

falcindor, that is a killer combo...
Magic as GM and Mark Jackson as Coach. We would be back on the map in a big way then.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
If or when Laydown gets fired, who would you suggest as a replacement?

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