I can't find the clip....i dunno if Cosmic can post it or someone else....

I'm so frustrated with Curry. I know I started this big flame out thread about him but to me its obvious the dude needs to be traded. Here's some comments from Curry's mouth....Actually I'm just gonna type out his entire rant. I got it on DVR now so its an exact quote word for word:

"Yeah definately stunned, especially being that he didn't tell me that. You know I havent talked to him. I'm here with him every day, all he has to do is tell me and let me know whats up. So I'm definately stunned to hear that from you guys but you know we'll see what happens."

"Yeah its tough but uh, you know just gotta see what happens, play this thing out and see what happens. I really cant tell you whats gonna happen. You gotta pretty much ask him but.....just gotta do everything i can do and see how it plays out"

"I feel like I'm in pretty good shape, you know but like I said its not my team, I'm just a part of it and uh hopefully I'll play and can contribute and if not I'll cheer my team on and see what the next plan is."

"It really doesn't matter what I think or how i feel about the system. Its pretty much how he sees I fit or dont't fit"

Whats rubbing me the wrong way is his sarcasm and just nonchalant attitude. I would think he is embarrassed, but he came off to me like he thinks D'Antoni is an idiot for thinking he could bench him. D'Antoni said he would play his best players. I think its obvious Curry doesnt get it. He complained D'Antoni didnt tell him. My thing is does he thing he outplayed Lee or Zach? Does he thing he deserved to be on the floor?

What you guys think?

Posted by EnySpree:

"Yeah definately stunned, especially being that he didn't tell me that. You know I havent talked to him. I'm here with him every day, all he has to do is tell me and let me know whats up. So I'm definately stunned to hear that from you guys but you know we'll see what happens."

In the immortal words of Larry Brown...if he doesn't know why he's being benched he's delusional...

I am a BIG D'A supporter, but if Eddie really hasn't been spoken to by D'A or an asst coach, then I think that is wrong. Eddie is obviously having problems - weight problems, adjusting to a new offense; head problems. Someone should have talked with him to try to straighten him out during the preseason.

This is a tough love approach, but Eddie has been pampered his entire basketball life. Not that he should be pampered, but he has. He still hasn't psychologically grown up. He is a valuable asset. I have been for trading him since the summer, and we need to keep his value high. Someone has to help get him going.

First off, conditioning is A HUGE part of it. If he's not conditioned, he can't play in an NBA game, or any bball game. However, you're right that he just hasn't learned how to play the game is a huge factor as well. Limited offensive moves. No defense, rebounding, passing, hustling off the ball, shotblocking. None of that. I mean, maybe we can give Isiah some partial blame for coddling the bananas out of this guy, but it still has to start with Eddie. He doesn't learn, he doesn't stay fit, he doesn't earn his money, OK cool, he doesn't play. Hopefully we will piss him off enough to maybe opt out of his contract this Summer.

did Eddy start any preseason games? Was he a part of the preseason rotation? I watched sparingly but I believe the answers are NO and NOT REALLY.

So why would Eddy *assume* he would be starting or playing when he hasnt so far? Aside from the fact that he's Eddy Curry.

Eddy has never been told no since he was likely 12 years old. Superstar treatment in highschool and no time spend on campus with peer group must give him a complex of entitlement.

Here is a freebie when asked bout your benching:


"Its somthing I have never delt with before so I don't really no what to say. I am a bit angry, but the best thing to do is turn it into a positive energy and keep working hard to earn my way into the good graces of my coach, and whats best for my team".

Not very hard is it.

Loser mentality deflects it into the fac that he was never told whats up and thats the problem, not that he came into camp out of shape. Im sure he was told this year was going to be different and we are going uptempo. That does not mean eating chix Nuggets once every seven seconds!

I would hope he uses this as motivation to get back on the court which would earn him a trade also. We are not trading him for beans if he is sulking on the bench.

at 10:00pm on a weeknight I am exhasted. Kids are in bed and all I want most times is to have a beer, surf the web, play some guitar and crash. But I'm 35 and like playing centerfield and pitching still. I like sleeping with college girls at the beach over the summer. So I strap my shoes on and run sprints up my dead end. Its just desire (and vanity). Eddy is rich and surely has no problem living a comfortable lifestyle. So he's complacent and by NBA or pro athlete standards lazy. Doesnt make him a bad guy.. just not someone I want to build a team around. turn the page

Posted by Allanfan20:

First off, conditioning is A HUGE part of it. If he's not conditioned, he can't play in an NBA game, or any bball game. However, you're right that he just hasn't learned how to play the game is a huge factor as well. Limited offensive moves. No defense, rebounding, passing, hustling off the ball, shotblocking. None of that. I mean, maybe we can give Isiah some partial blame for coddling the bananas out of this guy, but it still has to start with Eddie. He doesn't learn, he doesn't stay fit, he doesn't earn his money, OK cool, he doesn't play. Hopefully we will piss him off enough to maybe opt out of his contract this Summer.

That would be ideal! I agree about conditioning and learning the game too.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by EnySpree:

"Yeah definately stunned, especially being that he didn't tell me that. You know I havent talked to him. I'm here with him every day, all he has to do is tell me and let me know whats up. So I'm definately stunned to hear that from you guys but you know we'll see what happens."

In the immortal words of Larry Brown...if he doesn't know why he's being benched he's delusional...

yeah, except Brown was talking about Ariza who is a rotation player for a championship bound lakers team and curry is a scrub. brown also called curry a franchise player. and he went 0-8 in the pre-season in Charlotte and everyone already hates him there. i think brown is delusional. he may actually out do himself in Charlotte this year, even compared to his new york run. how many games does that team win? 18?

sorry, that's really neither here nor there, except i saw Ariza last night and wished he was here. just think, the foundation of this team could easily be Ariza, Bynum, Nate, Lee right now with lotto picks in 2006, 2007 and 2008 if it wasn't for Brown and Isiah. sigh.

What can I say, I just don't resent coaches who tell players what is expected of them and if they don't perform they wont play. In preseason alone D'Antoni has made just as many "offensive" comments as Brown made by the all-star break. But back then fans were so protective of these *****'s fragile egos, but by now people finally have exhausted their patience with them. My patience was already exhausted all those years ago under LB, so I was more bothered by the players than the coach, just as I am today.

I really don't care how the players feel about LB in Charlotte, their record is on them. Often times a change of coaches nets a short term boost, but more often than not that's all it is, a short term boost. Good players and an absence of injuries is far more important than coaching, IMO. If players are already giving up on their coach and each other in preseason there's a lot more wrong than that they have a big meanie for a coach.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Despite all that. YOur responsbility as a coach is to talk to your players. Simple as that. D'Antoni should had talked to Curry about not being in the rotation. It's all on D'Antoni. You just don't demote someone at a job without telling them. Sounds like a Mickey and Mouse organization which they're are but I thought they got better people in here but I see they have the thought process.

Phar, is it required they have a sit down in the office, or is it enough to let it be known that anyone who doesn't demonstrate a commitment to the system (learning it and conditioning themselves for it) wont start? Eddy was never made a starter, captain, or given any position of authority under D'Antoni. The real question is, why did Eddy ever assume he would start?

Posted by Pharzeone:

Despite all that. YOur responsbility as a coach is to talk to your players. Simple as that. D'Antoni should had talked to Curry about not being in the rotation. It's all on D'Antoni. You just don't demote someone at a job without telling them. Sounds like a Mickey and Mouse organization which they're are but I thought they got better people in here but I see they have the thought process.

Man what the heck are you talking about? The announcement was made CRYSTAL CLEAR when MDA and Walsh came in that no one had a guarantee of a starting or even rotation spot. This was restated time and time again before camp even got underway. During camp MDA made it clear he hadn't made up his mind on who would start and would judge things based on what he saw in practice.

YOU just want to hate on MDA and are jumping on this to try and make a case against him. SCREW Curry and anyone else that doesn't want to do what they're told. Steph was told to get in the best shape of his life and even then he wasn't guaranteed to start. WHY the HECK should Curry get anymore consideration?

What you're trying to do is very transparent and I think the argument is weak. MDA and Walsh have great track records in terms of player relations and just doing their jobs in general. Now you want to try and paint them as some kind of buffoons cuz Curry didn't get the point without spelling it out in big bold writing for him?