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Andrew
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10/27/2008  8:10 AM
by Sam Borden.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20081026/SPORTS01/810260377/1044/RSS0907
...we should hold off, should restrain our rush to put a label on what has happened the past few days. Some have jumped already: Terrible. Wrong. Awful. Those are just a few of the words we've seen on message boards or e-mails. Without knowing what's inside Thomas' head, though, without seeing inside his soul, it might be best to simply call it "sad" and leave it at that.
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10/27/2008  8:29 AM
I understand what the writer is trying to say, and of course we shouldn't rush to judgment, bu I didn't like at the end how he tried to draw up sympathy for a man making 18 mil over the next three years to do nothing but play golf. I mean give me a break. Everyday people are fired with nothing more than one weeks pay to go home with, and they still have the same problems waiting at home. Yes it was rough for Isiah, but we are living in a damn recession, people are losing homes and jobs. Isiah is not living in a recession, he is financial set, he has generation type money comming his way. We all have problems. Please stop it...
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10/27/2008  9:00 AM
We all have problems....

I think that was the point. Money doesn't necessarily make any of the problems go away.
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10/27/2008  9:33 AM
Posted by tkf:

I understand what the writer is trying to say, and of course we shouldn't rush to judgment, bu I didn't like at the end how he tried to draw up sympathy for a man making 18 mil over the next three years to do nothing but play golf. I mean give me a break. Everyday people are fired with nothing more than one weeks pay to go home with, and they still have the same problems waiting at home. Yes it was rough for Isiah, but we are living in a damn recession, people are losing homes and jobs. Isiah is not living in a recession, he is financial set, he has generation type money comming his way. We all have problems. Please stop it...


So you shouldn't feel sorry for a person that is well off financially or makes more than you?
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10/27/2008  9:36 AM
TKF couldn't be more right
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10/27/2008  9:42 AM
I think what the writer wanted to say is - for IT the reality of being a clown, retard, and complete loser in the eyes of millions can be a complete hell.
No money can help person with this size of ego and with history of success and love of the crowds to be in good state of mind. And when the mind of the man is alone it produced monsters.
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10/27/2008  9:43 AM
we can feel sorry for people that are financially set and better off than us.

Just not lying SOBs who are compulsive back stabbers.
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10/27/2008  9:44 AM
I know people who make no money at all and are happy as hell with life, I also know people who make tuns of money and are miserable.

People who think just cause someone is making 18mil that their life is automatically easy doesnt understand the way karma, energy... LIFE works.

Why do you think celebreties overdose all the time???? Did you guys see the article recently about players with depression in the NBA>??? Shit happens in life, no matter how much money you have.. if you put out bad energy it finds a way to come back and **** you
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10/27/2008  9:44 AM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by tkf:

I understand what the writer is trying to say, and of course we shouldn't rush to judgment, bu I didn't like at the end how he tried to draw up sympathy for a man making 18 mil over the next three years to do nothing but play golf. I mean give me a break. Everyday people are fired with nothing more than one weeks pay to go home with, and they still have the same problems waiting at home. Yes it was rough for Isiah, but we are living in a damn recession, people are losing homes and jobs. Isiah is not living in a recession, he is financial set, he has generation type money comming his way. We all have problems. Please stop it...


So you shouldn't feel sorry for a person that is well off financially or makes more than you?

What does money have to do with taking to many sleeping pills and subsequently blaming the act on your kids and making them go along with it to safe some kind of face?
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10/27/2008  9:46 AM

Isiah has been malicious in his dealings with people thru his playing and exec career.

I would imagine if he is making his own investments, perhaps with leverage either in the stock market or in real estate he might be in the red and perhaps his net worth might be sinking.

For a man with a huge ego and arrogant to be so despondant one might speculate he has perhaps really screwed the pooch this time and might have little to show for his lifes work other than a stained name.

He lived as a public figure and cashed in on a reputation without substance other than his incredible athletic talent.

Isiah the HOF player has long been gone and one can only imagine his personal life would also be one of caos and regret.

I would hope he would seek professional help but maybe he thinks he is above that also.

There is an old saying: "Becareful who you step over on the way up cuz you never know if you'll see them again on the way down".

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10/27/2008  11:49 AM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by tkf:

I understand what the writer is trying to say, and of course we shouldn't rush to judgment, bu I didn't like at the end how he tried to draw up sympathy for a man making 18 mil over the next three years to do nothing but play golf. I mean give me a break. Everyday people are fired with nothing more than one weeks pay to go home with, and they still have the same problems waiting at home. Yes it was rough for Isiah, but we are living in a damn recession, people are losing homes and jobs. Isiah is not living in a recession, he is financial set, he has generation type money comming his way. We all have problems. Please stop it...


So you shouldn't feel sorry for a person that is well off financially or makes more than you?

no, that is no the point. Not at all, my point is, this guy has every reason to live, people fail at work and in business all the time. For him, fortunately he has enough money so that will never be a worry for him. To try and drum up sympathy for a guy who has everything to live for is ridiculous. And no, money doesn't solve all of your problems, but lets be real, it puts you at an advantage that 95% of the people on this earth don't enjoy. Isiah is wealthy beyond many people's wildest dreams, come on. One of the chemist at my company is 67 years old, he works because he wants to. Last year, he found out his 45 year old son had colon cancer, he has been dealing with that, and then last month he finds out his wife of 46 years has stage 3 lung cancer. this guy has been hanging in there like a trooper. meanwhile his son still presses on because he has a family financially to take care of, and this man, presses on, because he has a wife to look after. No self pity, no sleeping pills, and we are talking real life shyt here, not failing as a GM of a basketball team and getting booed!
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10/27/2008  11:53 AM
I honestly think Isiah was trying to kill himself
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10/27/2008  11:56 AM
Think Isiah might be as arrogantly irresponsible with his money as he has with others money? Isiah might have a big salary, but if he has leverage and pehaps put up his contract as collartal, he might be bust.

That could break many men.
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10/27/2008  12:01 PM
Posted by Andrew:

We all have problems....

I think that was the point. Money doesn't necessarily make any of the problems go away.

we do, we all do, that goes without saying. But what is really going on here? hell we don't even know if it was Isiah or his daughter. How many cases do you even see like this? really this is another circus, and it is no suprised it is handled this way considering it is Isiah thomas.
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10/27/2008  12:13 PM
Posted by tkf:

really this is another circus, and it is no suprised it is handled this way considering it is Isiah thomas.

And this is really the biggest thing, isn't it? I thought this was the season with the new regime in place that we would try to avoid things like this.

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Posted by Nalod:

Think Isiah might be as arrogantly irresponsible with his money as he has with others money? Isiah might have a big salary, but if he has leverage and pehaps put up his contract as collartal, he might be bust.

That could break many men.


yea, down here, one of my boss's partners who was a developer, killed himself this year. It was a big write up in the papers. he had so many real estate deals that went bad, and so much debt owed( in the millions) that he could not take it. So the 45 year old, married father of two, who couldn't take it anymore, went into the woods of one of his subdivisions,called his secretary, told them where he would be and then put a gun to his head and checked out!! I was wondering,who should I feel sorry for? he or his kids, both whom are under the age 10. this guy despite going bankrupt in realestate, was an attorney and pretty bright guy, at 45, he had his whole life to recover financially. Now his kids are fatherless and his wife now a widow.. Again, I find it hard to feel sorry for those with a great amount of resources, both financially and educationally who decide to check out, because things are getting tough.. hell, I can show you some people who are pressing on despite having nothing and being shyt on their whole lives!!!!
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10/27/2008  2:55 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Nalod:

Think Isiah might be as arrogantly irresponsible with his money as he has with others money? Isiah might have a big salary, but if he has leverage and pehaps put up his contract as collartal, he might be bust.

That could break many men.


yea, down here, one of my boss's partners who was a developer, killed himself this year. It was a big write up in the papers. he had so many real estate deals that went bad, and so much debt owed( in the millions) that he could not take it. So the 45 year old, married father of two, who couldn't take it anymore, went into the woods of one of his subdivisions,called his secretary, told them where he would be and then put a gun to his head and checked out!! I was wondering,who should I feel sorry for? he or his kids, both whom are under the age 10. this guy despite going bankrupt in realestate, was an attorney and pretty bright guy, at 45, he had his whole life to recover financially. Now his kids are fatherless and his wife now a widow.. Again, I find it hard to feel sorry for those with a great amount of resources, both financially and educationally who decide to check out, because things are getting tough.. hell, I can show you some people who are pressing on despite having nothing and being shyt on their whole lives!!!!

I think in our society we revel in the failure of others especially when they step out of the norm and take risk.

Your friends partner might have had a gambling addiction and a low self esteem that qualified his persona based on his business success. This is a bad trap many fall into. If success makes us feel good than what should failure feel like?

I/We don't know what makes him tick, but judging my his actions alone he seems to have an arrogance that as an executive, he can show up in a good suit, flash that smile and eveyone is on board with him. He says the right things then has no substance to back it up. There are many like that in our society btw.

I remember there was a rumor floating around that Larry Bird fired Isiah cuz he did not put in enough hours as the head coach. That seems very plausable given his track record.

Personally, Isiah is only a failed public figure who seems to destroy everything around him.
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10/27/2008  3:26 PM
Fuck Isiah.

That's not heartless, it's what the man deserves. He thinks he is smarter than everyone, better than everyone and above everyone. Listening to the pathetic garbage that came out of this mans mouth for years, it's hard to feel any remorse for the guy.

Questioning the fans intelligence, destroying the franchise, harrassing employees, mistreating people at every turn. You get what you give in this life, it's not right to wish ill will on anyone, but even in his moment of dispair he is still a scumbag trying to bring his daughter into the equation.

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10/27/2008  5:48 PM
Here's another good article:

Anucha CRAPS on Isiah.



Sanders: Isiah Had It Coming


Oct 27, 2008 5:28 PM EST

Former Knicks executive Anucha Browne Sanders reacted Sunday to reports that the man she sued for sexual harassment accidentally overdosed on sleeping pills.

"I've said all along he should have time to reflect on how badly he's treated people over the years. Now that he's not working, he should think about the victims of Isiah. Maybe that's what's going on," Sanders told The New York Post.

Sanders said she feels sympathy only for Thomas' family.

"If he tried to commit suicide, I don't want to pounce on him," she said, but "I don't feel sorry for him. You make your bed, you lie in it."
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10/27/2008  5:52 PM
The best thing about the article was this comment below it.

Sam,
I wanted to take the high road on this also. Anytime someone does something like this your first hope is that they are ok. However, when the person who does this then goes on to say that it didn't happen and that it was their daughter it is hard not to think horrible things about that person. When the person is Isiah Thomas it is almost impossible. Please remember that Isiah lied under oath in court and was convicted. Remember also that he lied about racist statements that are on tape and talked his way out of protests with Sharpton. Remember that Isiah got angry at a draft choice and did not play him., allow him to scrimmage, but would not cut him until the final day before the season started in an attempt to sabbotage his career because he would not go to Europe. Remember how Isiah treated Don Chaney. Remember how Isiah fired two hall of fame coaches. Remember how Isiah benched Marbury without telling him directly after having a mentor/father relationship with him. Marbury still swears that Isiah told him he could leave the team for a brief period. Isiah's history points to severe character flaws, a personality disorder, a label, a diagnosis. This is not the time to take the high road. Any normal father would protect their child in this situation. There is nothing to gain by the police in this situation. This is not a case where something went wrong. Isiah Thomas believes that he is so much smarter then everyone else that he can toss his daughter to the curb and convince everyone that he is so strong that he never felt remorse for all of the lies, mistakes, and attempts to sabbotage others to save his career or prove that he had power.
10/26/2008 3:02:53 AM Sam, <br />I wanted to take the high road on this also. Anytime someone does something like this your first hope is that they are ok. However, when the person who does this then goes on to say that it didn't happen and that it was their daughter it is hard not to think horrible things about that person. When the person is Isiah Thomas it is almost impossible. Please remember that Isiah lied under oath in court and was convicted. Remember also that he lied about racist statements that are on tape and talked his way out of protests with Sharpton. Remember that Isiah got angry at a draft choice and did not play him., allow him to scrimmage, but would not cut him until the final day before the season started in an attempt to sabbotage his career because he would not go to Europe. Remember how Isiah treated Don Chaney. Remember how Isiah fired two hall of fame coaches. Remember how Isiah benched Marbury without telling him directly after having a mentor/father relationship with him. Marbury still swears that Isiah told him he could leave the team for a brief period. Isiah's history points to severe character flaws, a personality disorder, a label, a diagnosis. This is not the time to take the high road. Any normal father would protect their child in this situation. There is nothing to gain by the police in this situation. This is not a case where something went wrong. Isiah Thomas believes that he is so much smarter then everyone else that he can toss his daughter to the curb and convince everyone that he is so strong that he never felt remorse for all of the lies, mistakes, and attempts to sabbotage others to save his career or prove that he had power. bridgeforsale
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