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nyk4ever
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10/22/2008  4:53 PM
I think Jamal's biggest supporter would say that he doesn't look comfortable in MDA's offense, that much is obvious. Jamal has been a great soldier for us since he joined this franchise and he has been nothing short of a classy individual and a hard worker. This isn't to say that Jamal isn't a good player. Yes, Jamal needs the ball in his hands to be a productive player, but so do alot of players, it's just obvious that his style of play will not fit MDAs pass-happy offense.

With all that said, there are a number of teams that could really use what Jamal brings to the table, which is a crafty scorer, a slasher and a player who never backs down.

I'll start it off:
Jamal Crawford for Al Harrington straight up
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10/22/2008  4:59 PM
A few days ago it looked like LAC would be a great destination because Baron was hurt, but they are now saying it's only a 1 week injury or something to that effect. There's still a number of teams that could use Jamal though.

One team that really comes to mind is the Spurs. When the spurs won in 98-99, they were an aging team and they brought in Antonio Daniels midseason and he was a real ex-factor and Stephen Jackson had the same effect for them in 2001. I can see Jamal having that same type of effect on this current version of the Spurs. This version of the Spurs is very old and without Ginobbli until January I believe so I think Jamal would be a nice addition for them.

We can make a trade with San Antonio for cap fodder. Bruce Bowen (expires after next year) + cap fodder + George Hill (nice looking rookie) who I think would fit great in MDA's offense + #1 pick.
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10/22/2008  4:59 PM
Maybe he's just pissed off because he's not the featured player in this offense and he's just mailing it in.
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10/22/2008  5:04 PM
I really think its too early to write off Jamal. I dont think that his benching and MDs calling him out in the press will backfire though. I think Jamal will get motivated from all of this and come back to be a real contributor to the team. He needs to tweek a couple of things in his game, but I think he has the ability and the desire to change his game up.

I say lets hold off on trading him and give him a couple fo months to see what he can do.
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10/22/2008  5:22 PM
jamal to the mavs for stack's ending contract.

a)they have no bench

b)j kidd is 1 of the 4 pgs in the league who can actually streamline Jamals game and just in case he still can't help but get ahead of himself, i'm quite sure josh howard will remind him with a well placed elbow in practice that he has the clear it out I'm going 1-on-1 contested shottaker option on padlock
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10/22/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by McK1:

jamal to the mavs for stack's ending contract.

a)they have no bench

b)j kidd is 1 of the 4 pgs in the league who can actually streamline Jamals game and just in case he still can't help but get ahead of himself, i'm quite sure josh howard will remind him with a well placed elbow in practice that he has the clear it out I'm going 1-on-1 contested shottaker option on padlock

Good idea. I think we can get more than that from them. Throw in Brandon Bass and a future #1.
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10/22/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by McK1:

jamal to the mavs for stack's ending contract.

a)they have no bench

b)j kidd is 1 of the 4 pgs in the league who can actually streamline Jamals game and just in case he still can't help but get ahead of himself, i'm quite sure josh howard will remind him with a well placed elbow in practice that he has the clear it out I'm going 1-on-1 contested shottaker option on padlock

I like that very much. It helps us out cap wise and the exp contract might be a trade asset.
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10/22/2008  5:33 PM
Posted by izybx:

I really think its too early to write off Jamal. I dont think that his benching and MDs calling him out in the press will backfire though. I think Jamal will get motivated from all of this and come back to be a real contributor to the team. He needs to tweek a couple of things in his game, but I think he has the ability and the desire to change his game up.

i agree... he showed me he's willing to be coached & conform his game to what the coach wanted under LB... i'm gonna give him some string to show what he can do under MD... if after a few weeks of regular season games he still doesn't seem to get it & isn't showing any improvement then i think it'll be time to start considering other options at the SG position.
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10/22/2008  5:36 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I think Jamal's biggest supporter would say that he doesn't look comfortable in MDA's offense, that much is obvious. Jamal has been a great soldier for us since he joined this franchise and he has been nothing short of a classy individual and a hard worker. This isn't to say that Jamal isn't a good player. Yes, Jamal needs the ball in his hands to be a productive player, but so do alot of players, it's just obvious that his style of play will not fit MDAs pass-happy offense.

With all that said, there are a number of teams that could really use what Jamal brings to the table, which is a crafty scorer, a slasher and a player who never backs down.

I'll start it off:
Jamal Crawford for Al Harrington straight up

That would be awesome but I think Al is the better player and has the better contract. So I don't see it happening. If it did happen, I'd still want D Lee starting, though.
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10/22/2008  5:39 PM
I think anything JC does can be compensated by our other guards, in fact, they probably do it better. Therefore, I would move JC for an expiring plus future pick or even package JC with Rose for a contract and pick that ends by '10. Despite his high PPG, it's a mirage, I don't think he has a lot of value.
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10/22/2008  5:40 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by McK1:

jamal to the mavs for stack's ending contract.

a)they have no bench

b)j kidd is 1 of the 4 pgs in the league who can actually streamline Jamals game and just in case he still can't help but get ahead of himself, i'm quite sure josh howard will remind him with a well placed elbow in practice that he has the clear it out I'm going 1-on-1 contested shottaker option on padlock

I like that very much. It helps us out cap wise and the exp contract might be a trade asset.

Why are people saying Dallas has no bench? Jason terry off the bench, stack, bass, diop, green......that's a pretty awesome bench.
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10/22/2008  5:44 PM
this should not be an issue of him fitting in with the style or not.

it should be about moving a decent player who is a luxury to a rebuilding team.

he is a terrific scoring combo guard off the bench, but on our team, he has to start.

that, and we need to clear cap room- think of it this way- we're trading curry and crawford for lebron or bosh, not necessarialy what we get back in a trade.

and we're getting rid of a low percentage, high volume shooter who plays crap defense.
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10/22/2008  6:34 PM
i agree... he showed me he's willing to be coached & conform his game to what the coach wanted under LB...

That was the worst season in his career since he was a rookie.

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10/22/2008  6:37 PM
Posted by oohah:
i agree... he showed me he's willing to be coached & conform his game to what the coach wanted under LB...

That was the worst season in his career since he was a rookie.

oohah

stats wise yes, but u'r a liar if ur gonna tell me he didn't show u that he was making a concerted effort to conform his game to what LB wanted out of him... that tells me he's willing to be coached & isn't a selfish player who's only concerned w/getting his stats.
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10/22/2008  6:58 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by oohah:
i agree... he showed me he's willing to be coached & conform his game to what the coach wanted under LB...

That was the worst season in his career since he was a rookie.

oohah
effort's nice with a rookie; not an 8 year veteran. I just want him off our payroll
stats wise yes, but u'r a liar if ur gonna tell me he didn't show u that he was making a concerted effort to conform his game to what LB wanted out of him... that tells me he's willing to be coached & isn't a selfish player who's only concerned w/getting his stats.



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10/22/2008  7:14 PM
Crawford for Stromile Swift & second rounder
Crawford for Al Harrington
Crawford for Mark Blount & first rounder
Crawford for Jason Kapono & Joey Graham
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10/22/2008  7:28 PM
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Maybe he's just pissed off because he's not the featured player in this offense and he's just mailing it in.

I hope that is not the case. Just play harder and don't worry about a cold streak. I haven't seen the rebounds asissts and steals--work harder on the D--when you start working the intangibles of the game--the shots magically start to go down. If he's not playing hard because his feelings are hurt--then this is not a player we wanted anyway. It's easy to be good when you sck. Lets see if JC can be good on a winning team
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10/22/2008  7:36 PM
Crawford for Walker and Crittendon

Walker has a team op on his contract next season but meanwhile he gives depth up front and has played the 5 in small ball before under Nelly. He is a good passer can handle the ball in transition and he can hit the 3.

Crit is a big talent and he may one day be able to run a squad.

Crawford can go play behind Mayo and maybe learn something
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10/22/2008  7:43 PM
Craw to the Cavs would be retarded. Houston is another option.

I still wanna give Craw some time, but if the Knicks can move a player to get better via the 2009 draft or picking up some side pieces? We do it, period!...........And I'm a big Craw supporter. Knicks first!
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10/22/2008  7:45 PM
Posted by TMS:

stats wise yes, but u'r a liar if ur gonna tell me he didn't show u that he was making a concerted effort to conform his game to what LB wanted out of him... that tells me he's willing to be coached & isn't a selfish player who's only concerned w/getting his stats.

I'm talking about Crawford's play. We can also measure his season in wins. I would say by any actual measurable metric he was terrible. I'll give him an A for effort.

Whether crawford was trying or not in the LB year, he struggled for the first half of the season and was benched because he sucked. When Marbury went down with the shoulder injury Crawford did not blossom. Crawford didn't actually play well until the last 4-5 weeks of that season. But Crawford has 4-6 weeks like that every year of his career. I think since Crawford had his hot weeks at the end of the season, it is looked upon as "improvement".

Then the next season under Isiah, everybody said Crawford "regressed" because he started slow as usual. That was actually the best season of his career, where he actually played like a leader and the Knicks probably would have made the playoffs had he not gone down with the foot injury.

By the way, I liked that LB benched Crawford. He deserved it because he was so atrocious. I think Crawford always tries to do what his coach asks him to do, he just is not a good basketball player, he is a street baller.

Bring back Gerald Wilkins!

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