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Markji
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10/18/2008  10:32 AM
Some/a member here must be very upset with this. Non-guaranteed contract with Charlotte but at least he gets a chance!

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/261788.html
Charlotte Observer NBA writer Rick Bonnell evaluates new Charlotte Bobcat Justin Williams:

The background: A 6-foot-10, 260-pound power forward/center out of Wyoming, Williams spent parts of two seasons with the Sacramento Kings. The Kings cut him to open a roster spot necessary to complete the Mike Bibby trade last season. Williams also spent time with Houston and was in training camp with the Golden State Warriors before being cut last week.

What he offers: Scouts like Williams' length and energy. He'll block some shots and be active enough to grab some offensive rebounds.

What he lacks: He needs a more complete offensive game and needs to get stronger. He can be pushed out of position, which limits him as a defensive rebounder.

Bobcats connection: Advance scout Brendan O'Connor coached Williams as a Kings assistant, and they auditioned him on O'Connor's recommendation.

How he might fit here: Any big man who can provide some defense and rebounding has a chance to make this team. Coach Larry Brown says he needs more players who can contribute in ways other than scoring.

Quoting: “I played against Yao Ming and did a great job. I had like eight rebounds, five steals and defended him pretty well. Obviously I need to get stronger, but I play with a lot of heart.”

Williams, on the perception he's too slim to guard NBA big men.

The bottom line: He signed an unguaranteed contract, so there's no big risk in giving him a look the rest of the preseason.

It's a worthwhile experiment because his strengths match some of the Bobcats' weaknesses.

Justin Williams


Why does he look so sad?

[Edited by - markji on 10-18-2008 09:48 AM]
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10/18/2008  10:48 AM
I think with the Knicks we have 15 set contracts + the possibility of Pat ewing making the team. While we could USE another big man and a big guard who can shoot----I don't think they are going at it that way--rather I think this is the team and the only decision being made now is whether someone is waived to make room for Pat.
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10/18/2008  10:55 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think with the Knicks we have 15 set contracts + the possibility of Pat ewing making the team. While we could USE another big man and a big guard who can shoot----I don't think they are going at it that way--rather I think this is the team and the only decision being made now is whether someone is waived to make room for Pat.
You may have missed the point.....Finestrg brought up us signing Justin Williams on almost every thread the first 2 weeks of this month. This is just to add closure to the fact that we aren't going to sign him.
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10/18/2008  11:43 AM
There is a good solid 4 who wont make the Warriors who can play NBA basketball from Notre Dame named Rob Kurz who can shoot it yet play tough inside and can get up and down at 6-9 245. I think a guy who can do more than 1 thing as a big--who can rebound but also shoot with good basketball IQ might be better than a guy who has limited skills. I was pretty impressed with Kurz watching him last night. He's got a strong body with good hands and he's skilled.
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10/18/2008  3:52 PM
I felt, for us, Justin Williams was the right fit. I wish we could've just went out and added a Marcus Camby the way the Clippers did w/o incident. Problem is we can't - our cap situation's worse than any other team in the league - it just cripples us. Unlike the Clippers, our only option is to move lousy contract(s) for even worse contract(s) and we should all have finally learned by now that that's just not the way to go. Or, if you believe Chad Ford, maybe we have a chance to do equal contract for equal contract - something like this Eddy Curry for Erick Dampier deal Ford came up with - but to me, that doesn't work either because Damp's 7 years older than Curry and on age alone, that would make him even harder to move than Eddy if we're still actively trying to shed salary. Plus, Dampier's not that great anyway - we don't suddenly take the next step by adding this guy, believe me. He's back up center material... So what's left????? Minimum or no-risk guys like this kid Williams, that's what. When you're a doomed team in salary cap hell like the Knicks trying to plug holes, these are the only guys who make sense right now. I equate this kid to a lefty specialist out of the bullpen for a baseball team - he could've been the shot-blocking/interior defensive specialist that we've needed for some time now (it's what he's known for) and all it would've taken to find out: a small 10-day non-guaranteed contract. Other teams take fliers on players like this all the time (the Bobcats just did and they already have Emeka Okafor for that role), why can't we? Ahhhhhh, the Knicks just don't see it like that I suppose for whatever reason (if they did, Williams and Gerald Green would be Knicks right now), so consider the matter closed for now....

Quickly on Rob Kurz - I know for a fact that Don Nelson likes him a lot. Called him his best rookie by far in training camp in a interview I listened to a couple of weeks ago. I think he's gonna want to divise a way to hold onto this kid - he could stick as the 15th guy (G.S. has some options with guys at the end of their deals to buy-out or he could make it as the 15th guy outright, crowded frontcourt and all. He might make the team out there as an understudy with the understanding that he's going to the D-League. But then again, I'm hearing Nellie's leaning toward keeping 3 PGs, so maybe he gets cut in favor of Dan Dickau. I like his perimeter skills - the ending to the Warrior/Buck game was awesome last night with Kurz hitting the game winning 3 as time expired. I'd be interested if I were the Knicks, although he doesn't address the shot-blocking problem...


[Edited by - finestrg on 10-18-2008 4:06 PM]
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10/19/2008  8:12 AM
Posted by Markji:

Justin Williams


Why does he look so sad?

[Edited by - markji on 10-18-2008 09:48 AM]

Isiah obviously stole his joy too.
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10/23/2008  3:11 PM
Finest.. this is just for you
from rotoworld...
The Bobcats waived forward-center Justin Williams on Thursday.
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10/23/2008  3:12 PM
I'd like to give the kid a shot, just to see what he can offer. It's pretty strange that he keeps getting cut though.
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10/23/2008  6:24 PM
the Bobcats waived him
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forward Justin Williams to leave the team with the regular-season limit of 15 players.
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10/23/2008  6:38 PM
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10/23/2008  7:34 PM
Posted by McK1:

the Bobcats waived him
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forward Justin Williams to leave the team with the regular-season limit of 15 players.

Look 2 posts up...
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10/23/2008  8:11 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by McK1:

the Bobcats waived him
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forward Justin Williams to leave the team with the regular-season limit of 15 players.

Look 2 posts up...

oh!
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10/23/2008  8:12 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by McK1:

the Bobcats waived him
The Charlotte Bobcats have waived forward Justin Williams to leave the team with the regular-season limit of 15 players.

Look 2 posts up...

oh!

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