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EnySpree
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10/9/2008  7:42 PM
I think the Knicks should run 5 forwards and 4 guards (when healhy of course).

5 forwards:
Lee, Zach, Wilson, Jared, Gallo

All five can handle, pass, rebound shoot, run, and finish.....its a nice mix. They all can mix and match themselves up and down the 3,4, and 5 slots. All the guys are at least 6'9" so the size is just fine. The priority is to run the other team off the court and they should be relentless with this rotation.


4 guards:
Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw

I mentioned this before. These dudes are basically combo guards. They all play well in transition. They have great handles and passing ability. Jump shooting is a problem but the fact all 4 can pass, handle and finish its great. They all move at different speeds and are subtly different overall so it brings variety to the guard spot and keeps guys legs fresh.

I believe Eddy curry should be traded a.s.a.p.! I can only see him ruining the chemistry and flow. Too bad......are there any Malik rose types available for a salary dump trade?

I guess the Knicks need to hold onto some injury protection like q, collins, roberson, Junior etc.....

I think since there is no GM in the League out there gonna help Donnie(btw, **** memphis and the clippers)....let these guys out work, run, and coach the rest of the league. I believe the group I mentioned, if they can get healthy and stay together, they can make history.

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10/9/2008  7:54 PM
Take some medication man... Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw... can make history??? Are you serious?
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10/9/2008  8:00 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Take some medication man... Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw... can make history??? Are you serious?

Show me where I said Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw... can make history.

I'm talking about the rotation of players with D'antoni coaching.

Stop spinning what I wrote you caca poop.
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10/9/2008  8:04 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by arkrud:

Take some medication man... Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw... can make history??? Are you serious?

Show me where I said Marbs, Nate, Duhon, Craw... can make history.

I'm talking about the rotation of players with D'antoni coaching.

Stop spinning what I wrote you caca poop.



I agree with running with forwards and guards only. We have no centers (curry & big snacks) who could keep up. By the time those two make it to the other end, the rest of the team will be heading the other way. Good call Eny.
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10/15/2008  3:35 PM
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10/15/2008  3:46 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I'm the greatest poster of all time.

Man you're drunk with power now huh?

I'm happy overall with the idea of using our Forwards. The only thing that concerns me a bit is the perimeter shooting. We really need Gallo and Q, Steph and Jamal need to step up.
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10/15/2008  5:48 PM
5 forwrds, 4 guards and 0 centers.
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10/15/2008  5:53 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I'm happy overall with the idea of using our Forwards. The only thing that concerns me a bit is the perimeter shooting. We really need Gallo and Q, Steph and Jamal need to step up.

Personally, I'd rather we try to get an intimidator (or a DOG, if you will) down low so we can prevent these layup drills other teams seem to have on us.



[Edited by - K22 on 2008-10-15 5:54 PM]
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10/15/2008  6:07 PM
Posted by K22:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm happy overall with the idea of using our Forwards. The only thing that concerns me a bit is the perimeter shooting. We really need Gallo and Q, Steph and Jamal need to step up.

Personally, I'd rather we try to get an intimidator (or a DOG, if you will) down low so we can prevent these layup drills other teams seem to have on us.



[Edited by - K22 on 2008-10-15 5:54 PM]

As well has David Lee has played he is no center and nethier is Zach. Curry is fat and out of shape his stomach cramps up like he is a b*tch having a period. So far Curry has exemplified everything that occurs when a player is out of shape and pushed to peform to a higher level. He gets dizzy and starts to vomit. I agree the Knicks need a shot blocker in here and wouldn't Speight have been a nice pick up if they were able to get a second pick.

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10/15/2008  6:33 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I'm the greatest poster of all time.

Ricky Henderson might have something to say about that..
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10/15/2008  6:41 PM
The problem with the Knicks rotations is that all of our players are decent to average players. No one or two guys is significately better than another so all can make a case for playing time. Of the guys that will probably be on the team on opening night, only Jerome James probably won't play. I just hope that D'Antoni lets Chandler, Lee, Zach, Nate and Mardy play a ton of minutes.
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10/15/2008  7:14 PM
What center available fits what the Knicks are trying to do? Did you come up blank?

Yeah so.....as of right now, the Knicks need to continue to focus as I've suggested with 5 forwards and 4 guards.
Disadvantage is size and a shot blocker........so what? Advantage is speed and outside shooting. Not many teams have a center that will come out to guard Zach or Lee on the perimeter.....on top of that not many players period can keep both Lee and Zach off the boards. That opens the game up for our guards.

At the same time, hell yes the Knicks could used a goon. Take a look around the league and tell me who is available aside from Justin Williams(beat you to it).

As I stated before, no team in the league is gonna rescue our Knicks. In the meantime, the Knicks have to do what they have to do......so far I love what I'm seeing.
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10/16/2008  12:59 AM
Posted by EnySpree:[
I believe Eddy curry should be traded a.s.a.p.! I can only see him ruining the chemistry and flow. Too bad......are there any Malik rose types available for a salary dump trade?

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10/16/2008  1:34 AM
Howard makes close to nothing.
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10/16/2008  7:43 AM
Posted by K22:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm happy overall with the idea of using our Forwards. The only thing that concerns me a bit is the perimeter shooting. We really need Gallo and Q, Steph and Jamal need to step up.

Personally, I'd rather we try to get an intimidator (or a DOG, if you will) down low so we can prevent these layup drills other teams seem to have on us.



[Edited by - K22 on 2008-10-15 5:54 PM]
thats what fouls are for!

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10/16/2008  1:01 PM
Howard is no longer mobile enough IMO. When Jared gets back I can see him doing quite a bit of what we need at the C position. Let's face it, we're gonna be playing small and it's more of our strength, so we've got to own it. I don't know if we're gonna be able to add a more pure shot blocker, but that's obviously something we could use. Right now tho, our best shot is to go with 5 Forwards and 4 Guards. That's the strength of this team and I think the more we play that group, the better they're gonna get at not only flowing on offense, but on defense as well.
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10/16/2008  1:08 PM
Right now, though, it's 3 forwards and 4 guards. Who knows when Gallo will come back and Fish Lips is a straw man... silly to rely on him. So for now, I guess, our fat ball-buster gets some PT, though I'd rather give it to Mardy (and make it 3 forwards and 5 guards) or to Ewing Jr., both of whom can run.
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10/17/2008  4:40 PM
Curry to Memphis for Antoine Walker or Darko Milicic
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10/17/2008  4:56 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Right now, though, it's 3 forwards and 4 guards. Who knows when Gallo will come back and Fish Lips is a straw man... silly to rely on him. So for now, I guess, our fat ball-buster gets some PT, though I'd rather give it to Mardy (and make it 3 forwards and 5 guards) or to Ewing Jr., both of whom can run.

Yeah its frustrating. Knicks have to play bums like Malik, Q, and Curry until Gallo and Jared are ready......its funny how I'm backing up Jared now. I'm jut going off D'antoni. Jared is a good passer, ball handler and runs well. Its his finishing and shooting ability. If D'antoni as impressed with him then I gotta give him a chance. I'm just hoping the dude can come back strong from this injury.

Cuts are coming.....I think we can assume Roberson and Houston are out. Junior almost has to stay for the sentimental purpose.

Curry for Walker works for me. I like the idea of walker around Wilson and Gallo. I think both Wilson and Gallo could pick he brain of a player like him cuz at one time walker was 20/10/5 lets not forget. He's old now but he's better than Malik and adds depth for now untill Jared and Gallo get back.
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10/17/2008  5:42 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Right now, though, it's 3 forwards and 4 guards. Who knows when Gallo will come back and Fish Lips is a straw man... silly to rely on him. So for now, I guess, our fat ball-buster gets some PT, though I'd rather give it to Mardy (and make it 3 forwards and 5 guards) or to Ewing Jr., both of whom can run.

Yeah its frustrating. Knicks have to play bums like Malik, Q, and Curry until Gallo and Jared are ready......its funny how I'm backing up Jared now. I'm jut going off D'antoni. Jared is a good passer, ball handler and runs well. Its his finishing and shooting ability. If D'antoni as impressed with him then I gotta give him a chance. I'm just hoping the dude can come back strong from this injury.

Cuts are coming.....I think we can assume Roberson and Houston are out. Junior almost has to stay for the sentimental purpose.

Curry for Walker works for me. I like the idea of walker around Wilson and Gallo. I think both Wilson and Gallo could pick he brain of a player like him cuz at one time walker was 20/10/5 lets not forget. He's old now but he's better than Malik and adds depth for now untill Jared and Gallo get back.

I think Jared is a much better fit for this team at C. We need a guy that can rebound, defend and move the ball. Yeah he can't shoot or finish well, but with the lack of size we have, Jared could be a solid stop gap until we can find a better player to man the middle defensively.

I don't know about the Walker trade. I don't really hate it, but I would love to get someone younger and more useful. I guess that's asking for too much huh? I just can't take Malik anymore.
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