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Not official, but it looks like Stephon Marbury is being bought out by this weekend:
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Allanfan20
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9/23/2008  1:49 AM
Yes, I know, sigh, it's another Alan Hahn piece, but it looks like it's pretty clear it's happening:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-spknix0923,0,2403293.story

Knicks' Marbury may be gone in days
BY ALAN HAHN | alan.hahn@newsday.com
11:23 PM EDT, September 22, 2008

The Knicks are planning to waive and then buy out Stephon Marbury in the next few days, according to people with knowledge of the situation. (Photo by Charles Eckhert)

It has been believed since Donnie Walsh took over the Knicks in April that Stephon Marbury's tumultuous days as a Knick were numbered. Now the matter is days from being official, Newsday has learned.

Several persons with knowledge of the situation have indicated that the Knicks are planning to part ways with Marbury by the end of the week. One caveat is the approval of Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan, who must sign off on yet another multimillion-dollar payoff for his NBA team. Marbury is in the final year of his contract, which is to pay him $21.9 million.

The Knicks will likely place Marbury on waivers and, once he clears, begin negotiating a buyout. Marbury will then be free to sign with another team; the Miami Heat have a desperate need at point guard.

Though removing the controversial Marbury from the locker room is believed to have been a foregone conclusion for some time -- the old addition-by-subtraction theory -- it is also well known within the walls of 2 Penn Plaza that Walsh is having trouble getting comfortable with the idea of handing someone nearly $20 million to go play for another team. Especially when that player might be in the best shape of his career and focused -- yes, rarely a word attributed to Marbury -- to prove a great deal of critics wrong.

Make no mistake; all indications from those who have seen him are that Marbury is physically more ready for this season than the previous two. The left ankle is healed after surgery last January to remove bone spurs. His weight is reportedly down to 200 pounds after he spent the summer training in Southern California -- "Running the Hollywood Hills," as has been repeatedly said from those in his camp. He has refreshingly been mostly under the radar throughout the summer, with nary a bizarre interview to be seen on YouTube (OK, he did have his "Starbury" logo tattooed on his skull).

Marbury, who created a huge divide between himself and teammates after he went AWOL in Phoenix last November, stayed to himself with his workouts at the MSG Training Center this offseason until Monday, when he joined the other Knicks veterans in pickup games. One observer from Monday's workout noted the uneasy atmosphere among the other players. "You could just feel the hate," the person said.


[Edited by - Allanfan20 on 23-09-2008 01:51 AM]
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Bonn1997
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9/23/2008  5:19 AM
Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.
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9/23/2008  5:46 AM
Steph is gonnahave a good yr barring injury for who ever he suits up for.
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9/23/2008  7:43 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.

but his team mates hate him. don't know that you can keep him. this season doesn't matter anyway. time to move on.
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9/23/2008  8:05 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.

but his team mates hate him. don't know that you can keep him. this season doesn't matter anyway. time to move on.
I hear you. There is no simple solution. The issue for me is that we don't have any important, young PGs that Marbury is stealing minutes from. It's not like PF/C where Zach hurts both Lee and Curry. Now if this year doesn't matter like you put it, then putting up with Marbury for a few months shouldn't matter either. It might land us a nice asset that will help us in years that DO matter. We could also always buy him out 3 weeks into the season if he's playing ****ty and his teammates hate him. I don't think it's necessary to buy him out now.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 09-23-2008 08:05 AM]
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9/23/2008  8:17 AM
BUY HIM THE F OUT, AND GET HIS ASS OUTTA HERE ASAP. This guy has done nothing but cause trouble and drama...GOOD RIDDANCE YOU BUM

ISIAH GONE, MARBURY GONE. THINGS ARE FINALLY LOOKING UP
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9/23/2008  8:30 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.

but his team mates hate him. don't know that you can keep him. this season doesn't matter anyway. time to move on.
I hear you. There is no simple solution. The issue for me is that we don't have any important, young PGs that Marbury is stealing minutes from. It's not like PF/C where Zach hurts both Lee and Curry. Now if this year doesn't matter like you put it, then putting up with Marbury for a few months shouldn't matter either. It might land us a nice asset that will help us in years that DO matter. We could also always buy him out 3 weeks into the season if he's playing ****ty and his teammates hate him. I don't think it's necessary to buy him out now.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 09-23-2008 08:05 AM]

I think the other factor in play is the need for an additional roster spot- Ewing Jr is being kept & I am sure they would love to add Houston.

What asset are we going to get for Marbury? Maybe a first rounder if we take on an extra year of salary? Given how much is being made of Walsh being hesitant to pay Marbury not to play, I don't see him buying an expensive pick like that.

In terms of adding a player, remember we are geared up for 2010. I don't see Walsh wanting to use Marbury in this fashion, and while he might be in shape, I suspect D'Antoni doesn't want to have him around.
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9/23/2008  9:19 AM
If I had a nickle for every "Marbury is gone" story, I'd have at least a buck.

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9/23/2008  9:43 AM
If the hate is there, then he must go.

There is not trust. He will likely start off strong and mad to prove he can still play. How does that effect the building of a culture in a TEAM game.

Steph may be in great shape, he may even buy in but unless he states its not about him but about the team, and he is willing to sacrifice minutes and numbers then I say let him go. If he is just playing for a new contract and prove he is still "Starbury" then to its core going to be wrong.

He may have a near allstar season, but the hate is there, it impeades the developement of others, and undermines a new coach.

Lets wish him well, hope he can go to miami and he might torch us with that self absorbed anger, but in the long run we are better off, and maybe he would be too. Sometimes we as fans wish our explayers don't fair well cuz it makes us feel we made a mistake.

Miami has a new young coach, a young impressionable player in beasley, and it would be foolish to bring in Marbury. But it costs them nothing to try him out and see what he does.
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9/23/2008  9:54 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.

One observer said that he can sense the hate. Take that for what it's worth, but it's clear that his teammates just aren't comfortable around him. Like Nalod said, the trust is gone.

What exactly are we getting for him by the trade deadline? Is he really going to play THAT good and is he going to yield us an Andrew Bynum? I said Bynum, b/c it's in the Knicks best interests to get a player of that calibre in order to take back all the contracts we'll be taking in a trade involving him. His salary is over 20 million! Personally, I don't think we'll be able to get Bynum, so it's not worth it to me. Especially considering that the chemistry between him and the TEAM (Not just any one player or two) is absolutely shot.

Buy him out today.
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9/23/2008  10:02 AM
there is no way this group of young players can improve if Marbury is here. it's untennable. he has to go at this point.

he might play well for another team, but that's what we heard about Francis, too. the truth is its been two to three years since Marbury has been anything close to the top of his game - and it's debatable how much better he makes a team when he is at the top of his game.

i think it's more important to get rid of marbury than ZBO even.
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9/23/2008  10:03 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury's in the best shape of his career? Man, I don't know. I'd say keep him until the trade deadline if that's the case. You should be able to get something for him or you could always buy him out then.

One observer said that he can sense the hate. Take that for what it's worth, but it's clear that his teammates just aren't comfortable around him. Like Nalod said, the trust is gone.

What exactly are we getting for him by the trade deadline? Is he really going to play THAT good and is he going to yield us an Andrew Bynum? I said Bynum, b/c it's in the Knicks best interests to get a player of that calibre in order to take back all the contracts we'll be taking in a trade involving him. His salary is over 20 million! Personally, I don't think we'll be able to get Bynum, so it's not worth it to me. Especially considering that the chemistry between him and the TEAM (Not just any one player or two) is absolutely shot.

Buy him out today.

I am not for releasing him after we held onto him all this time. All we need is for some PG on a good team to hurt his knee and all of a sudden Marbury has some value.

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9/23/2008  10:17 AM
imho, a team of marbury + zach as the primary pick and roll duo >>>>> any combo of crawford + curry...
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9/23/2008  10:20 AM
I said in the other post that waiving him is a bad idea. Just hardaway him and see what develops over the next 3 months. If nothing good happens, then waive him then.
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9/23/2008  10:34 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

imho, a team of marbury + zach as the primary pick and roll duo >>>>> any combo of crawford + curry...

You are correct.

Also, this "Burn it down" approach that so many are advocating reminds me of Isiah's big sweep when he arrived. Move a bunch of players to clear them out without looking at every option.

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9/23/2008  10:38 AM
this obviously makes us worse talent wise. This currently constructed Knicks team only had good stretches when MARBURY had good stretches. Remember the 6 game winning streak under larry brown? Steph was playing some of the best ball of his career. He is still our most talented player. So it's a loss. But if we are truly rebuilding its necessary. NONE of our current players are willing to play with him anymore. So you have to do it
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9/23/2008  10:42 AM
Marbury is a joke who can't more than three good games in a row together anymore. I don't care if he can still play. He doesn't deserve a Knicks jersey unless he buys a Ewing Jr. jersey at the NBA store like the rest of us. Even then they shouldn't sell it to him.
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9/23/2008  10:48 AM
If Steph does leave, can Jr. have his number? #3 would look much better than #6 for him, IMO.
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9/23/2008  10:49 AM
Just released him. Let him go to the Celtics, Lakers or Miami. It's time for Starbury to get his ring.
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9/23/2008  10:50 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Just released him. Let him go to the Celtics, Lakers or Miami. It's time for Starbury to get his ring.

any team that signs him is basically kissing their chance at a ring goodbye.
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Not official, but it looks like Stephon Marbury is being bought out by this weekend:

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