When was the last time that happened?

Imho.....the yanks need a change in the guard. Last season I was very animated about letting Jorge Posada go.....now look he's gone cuz of a shoulder injury anyway.....who did bad ass Cashman get? Fuckin Pudge!

Yeah well.....I wanna get rid of Abreu(who I also didn't wanna resign), Cano, and Melky asap......

Also.....dare I say it......Captain Jeter need to be dropped in the batting order. His body language is terrible this season. He looks a little stressed and uninterested if you ask me. He's also been a little snippy in the media also. He might have lost a little something. His play is showing it. This year might be his worst season since becoming pro.

I wanna see A-rod get back to his #3 slot. Johnny is having an throw back year at lead-off. Xavier Nady is an awesome hitter.....he was hitting 330 in the national league. He needs to bat 2nd imho. Giambi needs to be the everyday DH and bat 4th. Richie sexton needs to start everyday @ 1st base.

So imho....the yanks need to get a new 2nd baseman, center fielder, and possibly stick hideki in right when he comes back.

Ken griffey jr was available and would have been awesome here in ny. He would fit perfectly behind a-rod. I think a-rod needs a guy behind him to take the pressure off him. Maybe Manny?

Brian Roberts in Baltimore is a guy I like to play for the yanks @ 2nd.....he has speed. Yanks could use that speed at the bottom of the order to setup damon and it goes back around....

Back to jeter......I think he needs to bat 9th

My dream line-up:
1.Damon rf
2.Nady lf
3.Arod 3b
4.Griffey jr cf
5.Giambi dh
6.pudge c
7.sexton 1st
8.jeter ss
9.brian roberts 2nd

Matsui could fit in somewhere. Cano, Posada, Melky and abreu can go to hell imho.

What you guys think?

Ken Griffey Jr. is way too injury prone to be a viable option at any position other than DH fulltime IMO... the only way he makes sense for us is if we get rid of Matsui.

Cano is a top notch 2B & still young, i have no idea why u would wanna get rid of him... Brian Roberts is on the downside of his career & has been linked to those roid rumors in the Mitchell report, so who knows how his body will hold up over the long term.

say no to Richie Sexson as a fulltime option... if u wanna upgrade at 1B the way to go is to sign Mark Texieira, but it's gonna take a monster contract to do it... if u can't invest the dollars there then i'd have no problem playing Nady at 1B too along w/Giambi next year (if we decide to keep Abreu that is)

Jeter has definitely been killing rallies this year, there's no doubt about that... i don't see him batting any lower in the order tho unless he goes through another 1 of those horrific slumps like he went through a couple years ago.

Melky is a joke at the plate, if not for his amazing arm in CF i would wanna send him back to AAA.

i have no problems w/the lineup this team has right now... they looked pretty damn good when they were winning all those games earlier last month & that was before we even had Nady or Sexson... they just need another reliable starting pitcher so that when guys like Andy or Moose have a bad outing we don't go through another 4 or 5 game losing streak.

Posted by TMS:

btw, this team is winning this division this year caca... doubt me now but u'll be patting me on the back later... never sleep on the NY Yankees.

The yanks probably could win it this year.....at least the wild card......it doesn excape the fact that somethings not right
With the way things are.

I have a feeling Cashman will end up picking up a pitcher soon off waiver trade....or maybe hughes or pavano show us something. Still don't like what's going on.

Posted by GKFv2:

I'm putting the nail in the coffin right now. This series officially did them in. With the Angels coming up next, it's over.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 08-06-2008 01:23 AM]

Injuries played a part, that is for sure, but I said earlier, this is the same yankee team that couldn't hit when it mattered last year and they still can't. I say pray that joba is ok and continue to develop Hughes and kennedy. Look to the future. As you said, we needed to beat texas and we went in and so far got smashed by a garbage team in texas.. should not happen.... as you said. It is just about time to wrap this up and call it a transition year....

and jeter has been the official rally killer for the yanks this year...

Posted by jaydh:

And to think many thought Melky had value and could be one of the main pieces in getting Johan.

he did have value at the time, but more as a thrown in or sweetener - the real pieces were hughes + kennedy...

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

And to think many thought Melky had value and could be one of the main pieces in getting Johan.

he did have value at the time, but more as a thrown in or sweetener - the real pieces were hughes + kennedy...

only people who thought he had THAT much value are people connected to the yanks. I saw many people on here saying hughes+melky+some 2nd tier guy was enough.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

And to think many thought Melky had value and could be one of the main pieces in getting Johan.

he did have value at the time, but more as a thrown in or sweetener - the real pieces were hughes + kennedy...

only people who thought he had THAT much value are people connected to the yanks. I saw many people on here saying hughes+melky+some 2nd tier guy was enough.

it was enough. and i think too much. johan in the AL = 4 ERA on the 1st year of 6. going to the NL extended his dominating ability 2 years.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-06-2008 11:01 AM]

As a met fan, I think its safe to say the Yankees were smart to pass on Santana.

Posted by jaydh:

It would be very rare for a starter with a 1.17WHIP to have an ERA that high.

santana vs. the AL

4 games
1-3
4.05 ERA
1.38 WHIP

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

It would be very rare for a starter with a 1.17WHIP to have an ERA that high.

santana vs. the AL

4 games
1-3
4.05 ERA
1.38 WHIP

and mussina who has a 3.44 ERA this year would be horrible in the NL because this year during interleague he had a 4+ERA.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by jaydh:

It would be very rare for a starter with a 1.17WHIP to have an ERA that high.

santana vs. the AL

4 games
1-3
4.05 ERA
1.38 WHIP

and mussina who has a 3.44 ERA this year would be horrible in the NL because this year during interleague he had a 4+ERA.

how did mussina get involved here...are you trying to compare moose to santana? is that what's become of johan? come on jaydh, concentrate on the mets and hope they make the playoffs (which they should). your attempt at trash talking is funny tho, i'll give you credit...