Certainly won't remind anybody of Bill Laimbeer in this regard, but he has some skills that just haven't translated yet. But, he's 7'2 275 lb...not fat (like Curry), will rebound/reject (unlike Curry).

Posted by MS:

I like the deal, I think we should really be going after jarvis he is going to be a real player in this league and we need a point guard, he has great size is quick of the dribble and would be another block to add. I would even throw Nate at them straight up in this package, with or without eddy....

Jarvis
sg
Chandler
Gallo
c

starting to mold a team with good size at every position would really be to our advantage long term.

Do you really think the Gallo at PF is going to work? I've got to see to believe it.

I actually like this from a Knicks standpoint. We get younger, actually shave off a lot of salary and get more talented.

Darko vs. Curry - Darko's about 3 yrs. younger, bigger, has a much better contract, can actually shoot a little from midrange with nice form, has better footwork around the basket and if nothing else, at that size, is at least a legit NBA shot-blocker/defensive presence right now. Realisticly if everything broke right for him and he developed all his tools, he could be another Andris Biedrins only with a better offensive game. Curry, on the other hand, is what he is - gonna power the ball up around the rim and score it a little as long as he continuely gets the ball trip after trip, but he's always gonna be overweight, will never run the court like they'd like, always gonna give you absolutely nothing on the defensive end, and will always be a sub-par rebounder at that size. Sure Darko's been a bust so far but for a franchise moving forward, Darko makes much better sense as your man in the middle over Eddy Curry imo. At this stage, any NBA talent evaluator would probably believe much more in Darko's potential over Curry's. Darko's got six yrs. in the league but the 3 yrs. spent in Detroit don't even count as far as I'm concerned - he never played! Like him or not, there are plent of big men in the league that don't possess half his skill and potential.

Crittenton vs. Mardy Collins - Both big smooth guards, but again, Javaris is younger and has better potential and a higher ceiling. I'll always defend Mardy to the death because I like his game and respect what he brings to the table but this kid Crittenton will be better. Might not have Mardy's overall defensive instincts but it just looks like he's got better God-given tools. Projects as a better offensive player who's quicker with a better take to the basket.

Explain to me why Memphis does this? Unless they can be convinced Eddy Curry will turn into some great force in the middle for them (maybe, who knows, suprisingly they did seem ready to give us OJ Mayo for David Lee), the fact remains they get older with a noticable drop in talent/potential and take on much more salary. I like this a lot for the Knicks (so would D'Antoni no doubt), but like MS suggested, I don't think they'd go for this w/o sweetening it up a bit (Nate, the 2nd rounder we just acquired from the Nuggets in the Ro. Balkman giveaway, something...). They might like Nate as a shooter and backup for Mayo at the 2. Or maybe we expand this somehow by adding some names to the deal: Antoine Walker/Jamal Crawford, Wilson Chandler/Hakim Warrick - after what Chandler showed this summer I'm sure they'd go for that, not sure we'd be willing to part with Chandler though - sounds like he's a big part of our future now.

Overall a nice trade suggestion Purple that makes a lot of sense for us, I just don't think we're giving up enough to make it happen....


[Edited by - finestrg on 08-01-2008 7:22 PM]

Memphis does that possibly b/c they get a low post scoring presense that will spread the floor for their fine young shooters (Gay/Mayo). And maybe they might think Mardy gives them a different look (big defensive PG). We could always toss in Malik or Nate as a sweetener.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Paladin55:

Ahh... Why would Memphis want this trade? What do they get out of it? Am I missing something?

As a Knicks' fan, I actually like it, but I have to wonder why Memphis would want our guys. Until Curry shows he can still do something on the court, his value is minimal.

i don't see them doing it either unless D Lee is part of the package instead of Curry... how about D Lee, Mardy & Fishlips for Darko, Crittendon & Darrell Arthur?

I like it and I'd do it in a heartbeat but remember, Lee's agent already told them he won't sign a deal to play there long-term when a David Lee for the 5th pick of the draft was discussed. Maybe we can get him to back off that though. That would be quite the coup for us though - we'd save money, get younger at all 3 positions, get a legit shot-blocker who has potential for more, grab the PG we've been looking for, and upgrade the PF position all in one deal. I feel we can truly right the ship with a deal like this (Darrell Arthur's a real good player - he slipped in the draft because of injury concerns. He'll be a better player than David Lee). I'd love for this to go down. Pick up the phone Donnie......

Posted by purple012870:

New York Knicks

Incoming Players
Javaris Crittenton
Salary: $1,381,560 Years Remaining: 1

Darko Milicic
Salary: $7,020,000 Years Remaining: 2


Outgoing Players: Eddy Curry, Mardy CollinsMemphis Grizzlies

Incoming Players
Eddy Curry
Salary: $9,723,983 Years Remaining: 2

Mardy Collins
Salary: $1,034,760 Years Remaining: 1


Outgoing Players: Javaris Crittenton, Darko Milicic


Rationale - Darko sucks but will at least rebound, block a shot & maybe see the light under D'antoni. Curry won't get many low post looks w/ this offense & frankly he provides little else. Collins is BARELY an NBA caliber player. Crittenden, a very talented kid, could really thrive here.

Darko sucks, but you want him anyway? We already have Lee who is a strong rebounder. All we'd be doing is trading cash for cash and no more, no less talent. This move does not help our cap plan. As a matter of fact, it's another isiah-diot clone like move.

4949 - maybe your reading comprehension isn't up to par. I'll help:

1. Darko does currently suck, but so does Curry. But Darko's strengths (rebounding, shot-blocking) are more desirable than Curry's (low post scoring) given this roster & new coach.

2. Crittenden is the key to this deal. There's a major logjam in Memphis at both guard positions. Crittenden is lost in the shuffle. But, he's very good. Could be the PG of the future for the Knicks.

3. How this is Isiah-esque is beyond me??? NO salary is added. A promising young player is added. And Darko, functionally might very well be a better fit for this roster. And for as nice a guy as Curry is, he's just not competitive enough, probably not smart enough to ever be an athletic tease.

4. Yes, we have Lee. Unfortunately, Lee may not be part of our long term future due to his contract situation. Also, there is no rule against having a strong rebounding C to go along w/ rebounding PFs.