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BRIGGS
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7/29/2008  11:37 PM
I do not think Eddy Curry will be here long-term--many fans want him out[although he should have a legitimate shot this year in an open system to see if he can play much better] still a speculative player/ Everyone wants Randolph gone and many people dont want to pay David Lee 9-10mm. The question is however----who the H will be our frontline? You do NOT win in the NBA without a good frontline. If people want curry and randolp out who do they want in?
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7/29/2008  11:47 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I do not think Eddy Curry will be here long-term--many fans want him out[although he should have a legitimate shot this year in an open system to see if he can play much better] still a speculative player/ Everyone wants Randolph gone and many people dont want to pay David Lee 9-10mm. The question is however----who the H will be our frontline? You do NOT win in the NBA without a good frontline. If people want curry and randolp out who do they want in?

I want the top pick in 2009- not sure what bigs are out there.

Really, we're 3-5 years out from being able to field a truly competitive team. I think its less about who we have in the front court, and more about adding some skill players.

I don't buy this 2010 savior crap, but if you have a lebron, you can get by with a reggie evans type at your 4 or 5.
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7/30/2008  12:01 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I do not think Eddy Curry will be here long-term--many fans want him out[although he should have a legitimate shot this year in an open system to see if he can play much better] still a speculative player/ Everyone wants Randolph gone and many people dont want to pay David Lee 9-10mm. The question is however----who the H will be our frontline? You do NOT win in the NBA without a good frontline. If people want curry and randolp out who do they want in?

I want the top pick in 2009- not sure what bigs are out there.

Really, we're 3-5 years out from being able to field a truly competitive team. I think its less about who we have in the front court, and more about adding some skill players.

I don't buy this 2010 savior crap, but if you have a lebron, you can get by with a reggie evans type at your 4 or 5.

You say you don't buy the savior crap, but say you want the top pick in next years draft.....then say Knicks could get by with reggie evans if they had Lebron.

Dude you want a savior, lol.
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7/30/2008  12:08 AM
your concerned with our frontcourt... OK.... Im concerned with our entire team. Ain't we all? what else is new
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7/30/2008  12:11 AM
I'm concerned with the front court as well......

"Gallo....power fwd" - D'antoni and Walsh

How does that fly with you guys? I dunno but I'd rather have Zach that roll with Gallo @ the 4. He doesn't seem like he can rebound or control or be a factor in the paint. Time will tell but the kid is already an international pro. His game is face up. Not much "big man" to his game.
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7/30/2008  12:16 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

I'm concerned with the front court as well......

"Gallo....power fwd" - D'antoni and Walsh

How does that fly with you guys? I dunno but I'd rather have Zach that roll with Gallo @ the 4. He doesn't seem like he can rebound or control or be a factor in the paint. Time will tell but the kid is already an international pro. His game is face up. Not much "big man" to his game.

Eny, how do we know all this, we've seen him play one summer-league game lol.
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7/30/2008  12:17 AM
Gallo at PF is not as much of an issue of Chandler is the SF, cuz he plays physically & can rebound the ball as well as defend... having a guy like D Lee off the bench would be another asset that would make that scenario an acceptable scenario.
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7/30/2008  12:50 AM
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7/30/2008  1:30 AM
I'm more concerned about the Knicks' point situation and to a lesser extent the backcourt. I'm tired of waiting for Crawford to put it all together. Chandler, Gallo, (and for now) Lee isn't so bad and whoever ends up being the SF is big enough to compensate for any weak links at center.
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7/30/2008  6:17 AM
I actually would be fine with this: Zach at C Gallo at PF Chandler at SF. I do not see our future backcourt on the current roster, which is why I wanted JR Smith and why I am so upset Lee cost us Mayo. We do need a PG. That dude isn't here yet.
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7/30/2008  7:40 AM
In the long term, which is the major consideration for this team, the only positions that we have a very good young player for are Chandler and Gallo at the two forwards.
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7/30/2008  8:25 AM
Lee - C
Galo - PF
Chan - SF

This is how D'Antony always run it.
He has no idea how to use traditional big man and thats why he is out of Phonix.
His system is not required big slow C and PF at all.
Can he win in NY with this sysetem? - This is to be seen.


[Edited by - arkrud on 07-30-2008 08:25 AM]
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7/30/2008  10:10 AM
Posted by arkrud:

Lee - C
Galo - PF
Chan - SF

This is how D'Antony always run it.
He has no idea how to use traditional big man and thats why he is out of Phonix.
His system is not required big slow C and PF at all.
Can he win in NY with this sysetem? - This is to be seen.

i wonder why he's only an assistant to the US team instead of the head coach. coach k has only coached college players and has had no type of international experience where d'antoni won coach of the year awards in europe. but i digress...

the only big man on the current roster that's guaranteed to be here 3 years from now is millidanilli...who knows about the other guys...
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7/30/2008  10:20 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by arkrud:

Lee - C
Galo - PF
Chan - SF

This is how D'Antony always run it.
He has no idea how to use traditional big man and thats why he is out of Phonix.
His system is not required big slow C and PF at all.
Can he win in NY with this sysetem? - This is to be seen.

i wonder why he's only an assistant to the US team instead of the head coach. coach k has only coached college players and has had no type of international experience where d'antoni won coach of the year awards in europe. but i digress...

the only big man on the current roster that's guaranteed to be here 3 years from now is millidanilli...who knows about the other guys...

Coach K is a HOF coach, Mike D' only had 4 winning seasons with a HOF type of player and an all-star player. He really hasn't done anything else in the league. Big difference. Hopefully, he learns that defense can be used to win games from Coach K.
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7/30/2008  10:32 AM
Does anyone care about toughness inside?

We don't have to worry about Chandler I guess but if Gallo, and DLee is the front court? Even though that crew could probably run like deers but they will also get dominated inside.

I guess I'm more of a smash mouth guy.....Philly's front line is looking pretty gully right now.
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7/30/2008  10:39 AM
If you look at what D'Antoni was doing with the center position in Phoenix you can easily see that he never really had a traditional center playing significant minutes. Don't know whether this was by design or because he never had a big man who could fit into his system. I expect, though, that if we had KG on this team, he would be playing center for us.

Chandler, Jeffries, Lee, Gallo, Randolph, Curry... The first 2 can play some D, but Jeffries is an offensive stiff; The second 2 have the heart to play D, but Lee has not proven to be a strong defender, and Gallo is young and unproven; The final 2 play dodge-ball D- they seem to try their best to stay away from the ball/dribbler when it is heading toward the basket.

It will be fascinating to see how Randolph fits on this team, and if he even attempts to play D during the early part of the season.

Even if Curry gets his weight down, his jumper is not up to D'Antoni standards, and he will probably never have the rebounding/defensive "instincts" needed to play up to his "potential."

We could use a Camby with a midrange jumper. I think you can get by with a less beefy frontline if you have a good helping defense, and I have seen Gallinari come over to block shots in some of his clips, and Chandler do it in the NBA, but I would still like to have a big man who can put some doubt or hesitation into the heads of the guys who were driving on us with impunity last year.

What we need is a Willis Reed. He had a midrange jumper, was a physical presence, could block shots, and before his knee problems, he could get up and down the court.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-30-2008 10:52 AM]
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7/30/2008  10:42 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Does anyone care about toughness inside?

We don't have to worry about Chandler I guess but if Gallo, and DLee is the front court? Even though that crew could probably run like deers but they will also get dominated inside.

I guess I'm more of a smash mouth guy.....Philly's front line is looking pretty gully right now.

within the division you have:

kg/perk
bosh/o'neal
brand/dalembert
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7/30/2008  10:44 AM
a friend of mine is very close with donnie mcgrath. he was the starting pg from providence who now plays in italy. he's making like $500g's tax free and living there with all expenses paid. anyway, he said over there, gallinari was considered a beast.
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7/30/2008  10:56 AM
You Know Eddy Curry is Willis Reed if he would ever wake up and grow a pair.
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7/30/2008  11:05 AM
I don't think center is a big issue for D'Antoni. He has gone with 6'8", 6'9" guys in the past and has been successful in his style of play.
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