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BRIGGS
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7/25/2008  4:53 PM
For you younger guys Sidney was a pretty decent ballplayer:)

...."I don't know how much he's going to give us this year, he's young..But down the road, Anthony's going to be a dominate dominate player for us

That is some pretty high praise coming from one heckuva player.
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7/25/2008  5:10 PM
I don't really know how much weight to put behind this statement. I mean really what kind of crystal ball does he have that can tell him how this kid will eventually develop? Do you know how many guys out there this kind of thing has been said about them too and nothing happened? Heck more highly touted guys have gone on to be busts or just not reached their highest potential.

He may yet become a dominant player, but I just don't buy that Sidney knows anymore about that kids future than anyone else.
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7/25/2008  5:34 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I don't really know how much weight to put behind this statement. I mean really what kind of crystal ball does he have that can tell him how this kid will eventually develop? Do you know how many guys out there this kind of thing has been said about them too and nothing happened? Heck more highly touted guys have gone on to be busts or just not reached their highest potential.

He may yet become a dominant player, but I just don't buy that Sidney knows anymore about that kids future than anyone else.

But Randolph has been getting praise all over for his SL play in both Las Vegas and Utah. One thing that has been proven is that he isn't some "fragile" kid that was tagged on him. The guy has participated and logged serious minutes over the last three weeks in SL.

This is the whole article

Randolph's size and versatility should benefit the Warriors
By Tim Buckley
Special to ESPN.com

Updated: July 25, 2008
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TAYLORSVILLE, Utah -- His father was in the U.S. Army. So was his mother.


Anthony Randolph -- born in Germany, but a Dallas high school product who spent one season at Louisiana State University -- has relocated so many times he can't tell you how many places he has lived.



"A lot," the Golden State Warriors' 2008 NBA draft lottery pick said. "I lost count."

[+] EnlargeMelissa Majchrzak/Getty Images

Warriors forward Anthony Randolph has shown his offensive skills in Utah.


No wonder Randolph, who has been starring for the Warriors at the Rocky Mountain Revue summer league, moves around the court like he does, whether it's racing coast to coast with the ball or playing virtually any position on the floor.



Either way, he's quite accustomed to being on the go.



"He's a basketball player," Warriors Revue coach Sidney Moncrief said. "I don't think he's the type of player that you can put in a position. You just play him, and based on who you have on the court, he'll have the talent and skills and ability to figure it and fit in at the right position."



Small forward? Power forward? Point forward?



It just doesn't matter.



Before last month's draft, one NBA scout told the Dallas Morning News that Randolph can be considered a "Chris Bosh starter kit" -- quite a compliment, considering the Dallas-born Bosh is a three-time All-Star since the Toronto Raptors drafted him in 2003.



Moncrief, though, doesn't buy the comparison.



"Totally different type player," he said. "They're left-handed; they're both slender. But as far the ability to take the ball off the glass, bring it down the court and make a play -- that's a unique ability that [Randolph] has that most guys his size don't have."



Moncrief instead went with "like a young Lamar Odom," which is quite a compliment as well. As for how long it will be before Randolph actually is playing like either Bosh or Odom, the jury is still out.



He is averaging a team-high 16.7 points in three Revue games, including 14 points in 21 minutes as Golden State held on to beat the NBA Development League's D-League Ambassadors all-star team 82-81 Thursday.



That ranks fifth among all scorers at the Revue heading into the league's final day of play.



Randolph also is a joy to watch, constantly going after the basketball, consistently fighting for control at the rim, battling under the boards and, at the request of coaches, looking for open teammates with increasing frequency.



That might be why Golden State head coach Don Nelson said he would have taken the 6-foot-10, 205-pounder with a frame to build on No. 1 overall -- and why the Warriors didn't allow him to get past them at No. 14.



Still, Randolph just turned 19 during the recently concluded NBA Summer League in Las Vegas -- where he again drew rave reviews, averaging a team-high 20.8 points over four games and supposedly outshining everyone in the talent department.



And it remains to be seen how soon, or even how much, everything will translate.



"He's young. He's getting there," Moncrief said. "I just think he needs to work on his decision-making, taking better shots and making the right play.



"I really think it depends on the type of players that are around him," the longtime Milwaukee Bucks guard added. "He certainly is capable of playing minutes. How many I'm not sure, because his talent level is so high."



Ask Randolph the same question, and he dances like a boxer, moves like the Army brat he is.



"I'm not really sure, because the NBA is a totally different ballgame than playing in the summer," he said. "So we'll just have to wait and see."
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7/25/2008  6:02 PM
Larry Brown said something very similar about Darko Milicic after the 2003 draft.
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7/25/2008  6:03 PM
Who is paying you to do all this Briggs?

I mean, really, whats the point baby pah? We already got you on record as being an A. Randolph guy. Trust me, if dude blows up, we'll all kiss your ass and tell you how right you were and if you were running the Knicks we would be working on our 5th title this decade --- I mean thats what this is all about, right? If I say that, will it get you to stop?

I just dont get the point other than self-aggrandizement. This whole campaign is bizarre, because Randolph, nor Gallo, hasnt proven a thing, yet, here you are continuing with this charade.

[Edited by - sebstar on 07-25-2008 6:13 PM]
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7/25/2008  6:06 PM
This guy plays for the Knicks ??? Oh, my bad i must be in the " I love Anthony Randolph's ballz " forum.
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7/25/2008  6:19 PM
Briggs, your my man, but what's the point with this? We know you wanted Randolph, I did too, but we didn't get him so we're gonna just have to live with it.
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7/25/2008  6:34 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

For you younger guys Sidney was a pretty decent ballplayer:)

...."I don't know how much he's going to give us this year, he's young..But down the road, Anthony's going to be a dominate dominate player for us

That is some pretty high praise coming from one heckuva player.

Wait Briggs- is Sidney supposed to throw this kid under the bus- oh, I can't believe we drafted him.

While I believe Randolph (And I was hoping this was on ours & they wanted him!) will be a good player- who knows!
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7/25/2008  6:36 PM
I have no problem with this thread as long as we can keep disputing all the positive things said about Nilo.
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7/25/2008  6:52 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

For you younger guys Sidney was a pretty decent ballplayer:)

...."I don't know how much he's going to give us this year, he's young..But down the road, Anthony's going to be a dominate dominate player for us

That is some pretty high praise coming from one heckuva player.


moncrief was a hell of a ball player for the bucks, he , marques johnson, ricky pierce, Ice reynolds....
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7/25/2008  6:59 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Briggs, your my man, but what's the point with this? We know you wanted Randolph, I did too, but we didn't get him so we're gonna just have to live with it.

We have people who are still employed by the Knicks who are VERY responsible for the shthole we are in. I'm not going to be obnxious like some people who may have been banned from this site but I want to maintain a *culpability* with the decision makers of this franchise until there is absolute reason not to be critical. I didnt like when I saw Brendan Suhr in Dantoni's ear in the last SL game and I dont like the fact the people who have driven this thing into the ground still have a huge say. A few of them definitely post here and Ive heard their rants about how Randolph stinks Bayless Westbrook to small and that danilo is the next Dirk. Well I would love it if he is--I am PRO Gallinari 110% because he is a Knick--but the accountability has to be there because IF Bayless or Randolph are significantly better players it will have to fall on the shoulders of those who picked Frye over Bynum who choose to give away multiple lottery picks for Curry and marbury---etc,,, I am and will always be 125% Knick fans much more than the people who are paid a lot of money to put a good product on the floor. An internet guy like me should not be making better calls then them.
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7/25/2008  7:03 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Briggs, your my man, but what's the point with this? We know you wanted Randolph, I did too, but we didn't get him so we're gonna just have to live with it.

We have people who are still employed by the Knicks who are VERY responsible for the shthole we are in. I'm not going to be obnxious like some people who may have been banned from this site but I want to maintain a *culpability* with the decision makers of this franchise until there is absolute reason not to be critical. I didnt like when I saw Brendan Suhr in Dantoni's ear in the last SL game and I dont like the fact the people who have driven this thing into the ground still have a huge say. A few of them definitely post here and Ive heard their rants about how Randolph stinks Bayless Westbrook to small and that danilo is the next Dirk. Well I would love it if he is--I am PRO Gallinari 110% because he is a Knick--but the accountability has to be there because IF Bayless or Randolph are significantly better players it will have to fall on the shoulders of those who picked Frye over Bynum who choose to give away multiple lottery picks for Curry and marbury---etc,,, I am and will always be 125% Knick fans much more than the people who are paid a lot of money to put a good product on the floor. An internet guy like me should not be making better calls then them.

No doubt Briggs, I agree with everything you said. I'm still not sold on Bayless, but he was 3rd on my list of potential draft picks after Westbrook and Randolph in that order.

Could you atleast see why some posters would be annoyed by thread after thread of Randolph and/or Bayless? It's like giving us a birthday cake and then shoving our faces in it lol.
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7/25/2008  7:17 PM
Off topic maybe? If you're gonna talk about a Randolph in the thread title maybe try to make it about the Knicks Randolph?
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7/25/2008  7:20 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Briggs, your my man, but what's the point with this? We know you wanted Randolph, I did too, but we didn't get him so we're gonna just have to live with it.

We have people who are still employed by the Knicks who are VERY responsible for the shthole we are in. I'm not going to be obnxious like some people who may have been banned from this site but I want to maintain a *culpability* with the decision makers of this franchise until there is absolute reason not to be critical. I didnt like when I saw Brendan Suhr in Dantoni's ear in the last SL game and I dont like the fact the people who have driven this thing into the ground still have a huge say. A few of them definitely post here and Ive heard their rants about how Randolph stinks Bayless Westbrook to small and that danilo is the next Dirk. Well I would love it if he is--I am PRO Gallinari 110% because he is a Knick--but the accountability has to be there because IF Bayless or Randolph are significantly better players it will have to fall on the shoulders of those who picked Frye over Bynum who choose to give away multiple lottery picks for Curry and marbury---etc,,, I am and will always be 125% Knick fans much more than the people who are paid a lot of money to put a good product on the floor. An internet guy like me should not be making better calls then them.

Briggs- do you think MSG employees that have any kind of influence post here?

I suspect they have better things to do than defend themselves from a handful of nuts like us.

Of course, Andrew and Martin could confirm this with their server logs
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7/25/2008  7:34 PM
Isiah Thomas was a heck of a player too. Too bad what he thought didnt pan out better
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7/25/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Isiah Thomas was a heck of a player too. Too bad what he thought didnt pan out better

Too bad he is still telling Donnie what he thinks behind the scenes and what's worse is that Donnie likes what he says.
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7/25/2008  7:48 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by fishmike:

Isiah Thomas was a heck of a player too. Too bad what he thought didnt pan out better

Too bad he is still telling Donnie what he thinks behind the scenes and what's worse is that Donnie likes what he says.

Isles.. is that you?
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7/25/2008  8:48 PM
Randolph was seen by tons of scouts for each lottery team and he fell to 14th. I think it's a bit of a consensus on what all the other teams from 1-13 felt about him. He was right there for us to take and knowing Isiah if he had anything to say about who we took, then there's no way this kid gets past us. He's exactly the type of player that Isiah would pick. Long, Athletic etc. So I hope we can put to rest the idea that Zeke had any kind of real say in our pick.

Gallo was taken cuz Mayo and Westbrook were gone and he was the next guy on their list, plain and simple. Some of us may have wanted Bayless, Alexander, Gordon or Randolph, but the Knicks felt Gallo was the next best talent on the board.
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7/25/2008  8:58 PM
I totally agree with you about the hangers on who destroyed the Knick franchise. I do not understand the reason for any of them being involved with the new regime. The fact that Isiah's scouting of Gallinari was written about in the tabloids drove me nuts. In fact it is very easy to make a connection to Isiah and every move that has been made since Walsh took over. This might not be accurate but until Isiah is gone I will not be able to look at any move made by Walsh without thinking that Isiah and Dolan influenced or called for the move.
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7/25/2008  9:10 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

I totally agree with you about the hangers on who destroyed the Knick franchise. I do not understand the reason for any of them being involved with the new regime. The fact that Isiah's scouting of Gallinari was written about in the tabloids drove me nuts. In fact it is very easy to make a connection to Isiah and every move that has been made since Walsh took over. This might not be accurate but until Isiah is gone I will not be able to look at any move made by Walsh without thinking that Isiah and Dolan influenced or called for the move.

So you think Walsh came here just to have Isiah and Dolan pull his strings? I think it's vastly overstated how much previous regime staff have influence over current moves. Most men want to be judged on their own merit and I don't think Walsh has a lack of integrity. I think he's got a LOT of integrity and cares about his legacy and how his work will be perceived.

I think his picking D'Antoni was a sign of his pragmatism. He didn't want to mess around when a winning, experienced coach was available. I think his picking Gallo was a sign of his intent to make sure to give D'Antoni solid players who have the skills needed to play in his system and make it click. Gallo is the kind of all around skilled player that always does well in a Euro styled offense based on high BB IQ and Skills. What in all of this gives any indication that this is the kind of thing the old regime would do?
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