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Nalod
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7/17/2008  2:12 PM
The last time I will respond to any non-basketball thread:

Written after your oil chaplin YouTube:

You mean there are people who manipulate the price of commodities for self profit?

YOu mean George Jr, a moron does not have the intellect to lead the nation, but is the son of a former CIA head, VP for 8 years and 4 as president and got the presidency owes a policy to aid in profits to commodity mover and shaker type?

Oh my god! I never thought of this!!!!!!

Nalod shorted oil two weeks ago. Nalod making money now.

If you have a nation driving SUV's the size of studio apartments and buying out door space heaters to help their outdoor kitchens, then darn right you over charge for the commodity! They ain't out to screw the little guy, they just following market conditions! They are in fact screwing people, but people who are vulnerable and let themselves get screwed.

The masses are vulnerable and over spend, over buy and have little choice than to pay the commodity price. At least they don't whine about all day long!

The world is a messed up place and while we should all do good, when we become dependent on the machine then we just have to take what is given. When you learn to become a part of the machine, you actually become more independent.

Stay liquid, invest in the machine, stay debt free, and don't break the law.

And most important do good for the community and your family.

Kings have always fleeced the flock for its riches. Kings, Czars, dictators, presidents, and party leaders are all just one and the same. Always has, always will.

Drive smaller cars, take public transportation, and stay debt free!!!!!!!

Be your own man!

Playa, you sound very scared! Thats no way to live. YOu think that by exposing the ill's of the world your doing somting? The old man wrote a book and is MAKING MONEY FROM IT. You buying it? You staying up at nite looking at OPINIONS to justify that the world is not right? When has it ever been right? When has there never been war? When has any just labor situation been evident during post industrial revolution? When has elections been fair? When has good people NOT been assasinated?

What golden age shroud of pretend land do you think existed that the internet has enlightend you to feel its worse now then ever? When has medicine been fair? Clean water? Clean air? Plagues? Crusades? Crusafictions? Slavery? Genecide?

Predudice did not begine in North America with its black poplation! Slavery was around long before Europeans went to Africa.

Wake up and stop thinking white people can't jump! We can, and we do! Italians can play basketball, and stop relying on Government to protect you.

America is the land of opportunity and that includes whiners and complainers.

Don't just KNOW history, but learn it and understand it. Then you'll stop whining and complaining with all the other wack jobs out there who are into conspiricy theories.

Ok, Oswald did not kill kennedy, Area 51 or something like it exists, and if other beings exist it really does mess up religion, oh, and the Bush family is evil. What else, Ewing lottery pick was rigged, some NBA refs are crooked, wrestling is pretend and Youtube is market driven. Global warming exists and Gore was not let in the white house cuz his VP was a Jew. We are building concentration camps to be run by a black president with the middle name "hussein". What else? MLB ignored steroids and Lance Armstrong was guilty? But OJ was not. Yeah, I get it now!

Now what? Does all this make you really a better person cuz you know "whatz up"? No, does it make you money? Does it help you or your family?

If your on line at the concentration campe being processed into "soilent green" protein you gonna tell everyone " I knew it, I know it!" and they gonna look at you and think why didn't you do anything? or why you in here with the rest of them? But you gonna tell them you "know whatz up".

Can't do anything? Then buy Haliburtan! I did, when Chaney got VP and made a bundle. I don't make the evil, and I can't stop it, but can profit from it. Then I donate more to my charities and help those less fortunate. I don't smoke, but I own tobacco stocks. Maybe I am evil, but im independent. I was not born into it, just middle class. Paid for my own college and it was nothing to write home about. STAY DEBT FREE.

And All I know is this capitalization gig don't work without Banks and insurance companies its time to buy them. Bought Lehman Bros at 14 the other day. Wss 20 this morning, now at $18.19 May not make it all the way back, but it might. I'll buy others. Some will fail, thats right, like a baseball player who fails 2/3 of the time but makes HOF (.333 batting avg for 20 years might get you 3000 hits) I plan to fail.

But even the Boston Celts did not go undefeated, nor will Nalod, or the US gov't, or corp america on the road to success, or shall we say the road to independence. (independence is most people's goal)

So keep those conspiricies coming and let us know "whatz up", but realize your sitting on the porch with the other dogs.
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7/17/2008  2:42 PM
Dont stop Playa! Didnt you know that his threads are monitered and this is how we in the federal government get our intelligence? He must continue!
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7/17/2008  2:50 PM
Nalod I commend you for taking care of your family by stuffing the coffers of the crooks.

I knew there was something about you that idn't stick to fly paper.

Everybody isn't as knowlegable as you , I know you're kids would agree.

These things I post is not because I'm afraid,I own remtal property, I live well my kids are in great universities, me and ,my wife love each other.

I post this info so those that still watch foxnews and believe in the days of ozzie and harriet and he whistle pig.

Don't try and down play the info, everybody is not up to speed on this stuff.

Go back to you're hood and count your change, nobody is envy of you're portfolio.

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4949
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7/17/2008  3:36 PM
In other words 'go play in traffic'! Right playa?

This is one of the funniest threads I read in a long time! Soilent Green?
I'll never trust this' team again.
Nalod
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7/17/2008  3:45 PM
Posted by playa2:

Nalod I commend you for taking care of your family by stuffing the coffers of the crooks.

I knew there was something about you that idn't stick to fly paper.

Everybody isn't as knowlegable as you , I know you're kids would agree.

These things I post is not because I'm afraid,I own remtal property, I live well my kids are in great universities, me and ,my wife love each other.

I post this info so those that still watch foxnews and believe in the days of ozzie and harriet and he whistle pig.

Don't try and down play the info, everybody is not up to speed on this stuff.

Go back to you're hood and count your change, nobody is envy of you're portfolio.


I don't assume your ignorant, nor that your not fiscally responsable.

I believe your morally upstanding and are blown away by the injustices discussed. Its just the OJ thing that your a bit off on.......

Im not stuffing the coffer of the crook. The owners of unsafe gas guzzler SUVs are, the owners of outdoor space heaters are. And if those people are stuffing mine too!

Wanna smoke, thats not my call, but im gonna profit from it. Wanna quit, then I'll lose money. I built a gym in my house. I sold some of those too to build it.

I own energy stocks, And when it hit 145 I shorted the commodity 2-1.

I am took some profits from engergy and will have solar water heaters installed in my home. Independent. I put my money where my mouth is.

Nobody wants big controlling government, and nobody dictates energy consumption, nor booze, nor tobacco, nor biggie fries. Its bad business, but its a free market. Even China is doing it!

People are pigs. I am starting a foundation to aid the literacy of young adults in financial matters. Not how to day trade, not about banking, but why one should stay debt free and save. This won't be for rich kids. Some will get it, most won't. But I'll try. Every kid with a lawn mower can learn to be in business, and a kid with a hose and a bucket can wash cars for money! Start small and work for yourself. Thats what I'll teach.

Even the plantations got money for kids that can't afford college!

Im not perfect, and I agree Fox news is total BS, as is most of the media! Im trying to get along on the system and improve it little by little.

If most idiots would realize Rush LImbaugh just got a new 400 mil contract to produce his show they'd understand his views are entertainment not knowledge.

Its a rare and valuable commodity to not just have knowledge but when and how to use it.

Im not bragging on my portfolio. I actually do this for a living for myself and my clients. Its not easy, but I HAVE HAD TO LEARN to be successful to not fight the system, and not take a strong stand on issues but to keep an open mind and adjust. Being stubburn is easy.

4949
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7/17/2008  3:50 PM
Wanna smoke, thats not my call, but im gonna profit from it. Wanna quit, then I'll lose money.


Why not invest in companies that help people stop smoking, that way your covered on both ends?


[Edited by - 4949 on 07-17-2008 3:52 PM]
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Nalod
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7/17/2008  5:57 PM
Posted by 4949:
Wanna smoke, thats not my call, but im gonna profit from it. Wanna quit, then I'll lose money.


Why not invest in companies that help people stop smoking, that way your covered on both ends?


[Edited by - 4949 on 07-17-2008 3:52 PM]

Good ideas don't nessesitate a good investment.

I used to smoke and its a b!itch to stop. Why not invest in Cancer? Seems like the longer we live the higher the cancer rate!

Alternative energies are also good ideas but have yet to be good investments. In fact "Peak Oil" does spur motive to research and develop. PROFIT MOTIVE to cultivate alternatives is what is needed and $1.50 oil does not do this. Oil is plentiful but its taking longer to refine as the wells are getting lower. The good stuff is at the top. And they don't build refineries to keep up with demand.

so its not a shortage, its just capicity to process and the infrastructure. Why spend more if you can charge more?

Of course there is price manipulation, but Oil and oil companies here are not nationalized so they cater to supply and demand. Housing square footage has grown a lot, and urban sprawl with mcmansions and monster trucks all work with low fuel, but not anymore.

I hope the movement continues despite lower prices. I really think we should increase the tax on residential and non comercial use (breaks to transportation as not to double tax) and automobiles and use the revenue for rebates on solar/wind/water generations as researcha and developement. we have about 50 year oil left and thats a long time to get it all together. I also think excise tax on larger displacement engines (got a hemi? You pay!!!) and cars based on wheelbase size also get taxed. This is how its done in Europe and Japan where they don't piss away resources.


In all our system works.

And bTW, the depression was much deeper as was the stock market drop and any comparisons are silly. Fear was extreame for many reasoins, but also because fear of regime change. Back then capitalism was failing and social and communisim was a viable alternative discussed. That made for private investment very unlikely, thus they fell.

Capitalism won, and still does. But it has its pitfalls, disinfranchised members of society and its failures.

But so does every other "ism" and none works better over all. Even Canada.

Playa, forget OJ, read up on the Vatican and those conspiricies. There are some real good ones. Bone up on "intercontinental conspiricies".

And go easy on Brown Brothers Harriman and the Bush Nazi financier. At the time, the Nazi's were rebuilding Germany and had an ecnomic model that was getting a lot of attention. They were anti communist and that was ok with most people. This was all before the anti semetic approach came out and was recognized as the monsters they were to become. In hindsight it was bad business, but at the time one could understand the attraction as an investment. The Swiss banks holding Nazi loot is one of the worlds awful financial crimes. The bush money was made not on the Nazi's but when the companies they Nationalized went back privitized Brown Brothers Harriman was given equity stakes in those companies in return for forgiving the debt, and that proved to be an freaking fortune over time! They profited from the fall of the Nazi's! Unfortunatly when the Nazi's took the companies to begin with they screwed over the original owners.

Its all bad business, but its thought that our current president bush perhaps over protects Isreal as a way of harnessing his family guilt over the fortune his family received. Being a recovered alcoholic it has written that this would be a consistant behavior for him.

On a final note, Iran sits on some of the largest reserves of Oil and spouts rehtoric about wanting to destroy Isreal. If they sit on such Oil, why then need nuclear capcity? We will take this out otherwise Isreal will do it, which is what they want. Any attack galvanizes the region against Isreal. Nuke Isreal, and Isreal will take all of their neighbors with them, and poison the oil with radiation, so its best we go in and take the Iraninan Nuke plant out.

Oil will spike, then go back down. War with Iran will be very short.

Stock market will get nervous and drop in anticipation of this. This will be a good buying opportunity.



4949
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7/17/2008  9:22 PM
I suppose it's a good healthy approach, business wise, in the face of economic worries out there. Are we too worried about our dollar losing strength, or is that a falsehood also?
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7/17/2008  9:32 PM
Posted by izybx:

Dont stop Playa! Didnt you know that his threads are monitered and this is how we in the federal government get our intelligence? He must continue!


Yea you all have nothing to fear, I'm the one they want.
But I am well prepared to deal with the neo-cons loonies and hench men like you.
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7/18/2008  10:31 AM
Posted by 4949:

I suppose it's a good healthy approach, business wise, in the face of economic worries out there. Are we too worried about our dollar losing strength, or is that a falsehood also?

We are all too worried about trends. We extrapolate the present into the future good and bad. Same for knick fans. Like D'antoni teams can't play defense. Ever.
Remains to be seen, and the proof may take 3 years to find out.

Dollar, its complicated naturally and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn express last nite, but weak dollah has benefits. Manufacturing comes back like VW announced they gonna build again. Those container ships have to have somthing to carry on the way back? Foriegn money buys our debt and real estate. Don't get me wrong, its better for it to be strong but it stops at a level and becomes opportunistic at some level for someone. Im sure Briggy is more elequent about these discriptions.

I Unwound my oil short this morning. I am happy with what I got and we sent some fool to Iran to "negotiate" with the EuroWuss about the nuke program. Its a break of policy to do so but I think this guy is telling them we got an exit strategy to reduce troop count in Iraq and its a whole lot easier sending them to Iran than back home. Im sure Anderson Cooper will be there in the morning and tell us what bad mofos the Iranian national guard is.

Im in the camp that Bush is an idiot, but someone had to go to Iraq and afganistan and knock some sense into them. If they are not afraid of us then they would have stepped it up. Suicide bombings even in other countries pretty much have stopped. Sure its other countries and not america, but people count all over.

Im also in the camp that collateral damage in Iraq and in the Gaza would avoidable if the bad dudes did not shield themselves with infants. Since Women are dirt in some cultures they don't count so they are used as sheilds. Try that crap here and Abdul the terror monger would get a frying skillet upside his head and be lead out by his ear to be arrested. Nobody messes with a mother and child in most cultures. Even animals protect their children. Not Abdul the terror monger. He won't get a job, just plot how to stick it the man and blame the Jews for his pathetic existance and boss around his kids and women. And if they embarrass him he has the right to kill them? This is the kind of scum we are fighting again but the media prefers to show the collateral damage we do to them when they are shielding the real targets. I hate it as much as the next person. Of course if you pick a fight with "gorillas" you fight on their turf and their rules. Al I Know is if I were in my room polisihing the rocks I was going to throw, or mixing bombs and my mom knew they were after me and would shoot up the house to get me out my ass would be on the front lawn with all my terror kits and she'd have me taken away. Don't mess with mommas house!

I sound like a war monger, but never voted for a Bush, never supported the start of any war but I support Isreal's right to exist in peace, to live, and to prosper. The refugees there have made one bad deal after another and have been the puppets of other regimes to carry out what they do not want to. Stupidity and petty jelousy rule strong over there. Hezbelah is a puppet of Irans National Guard and they get paid to bully lebonan which was doing just fine again until these thugs came in and started taking over. Stop Iran, and they go away. They are paid very well to do what they do.. Once we do Iran they will start the rocket thing again in Hafa and Israel will pounce back. So expect more staged scenes were the same guy is always carrying the same girl out of the rubble. Theres a good conspiricy. Some guy compared pictures in Gaza and it showed the same guy at every scene carrying the same little girl out of different buildings.

I believe that our policy is not to "fix things' That took thousand of years to brew but just to keep it moving decade by decade. I know that is not acceptable to most people who want a begining-middle-end to our foriegn policy but this just does not happen. Its a compromise of costs both dollars and human. We could end it, but it would be a bloody disaster which no one could tolerate. Communism was the same. We could have continued on into russia and cleaned it all up right then and there. Patten knew we had it all going on then. Soviet Union was prime, but to invade is one thing and occupy is another. We were cooked financially after WW2 and had to just wait it out for 40 more years until the "communist experiment" failed. It did.

This Middle East "problem" has been brewing for much longer than Charlie Wilsons war and the 1947 independence of the state of Isreal.

There is no master plan, just keeping the region going until the oil runs out and then we can leave them be. If they want to mess with Isreal then they'll have to find out that they won't be a refined in collateral damage sensitivity.
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