D'Antoni is excited about Gallo... Gallo's all about the team
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TMS
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7/15/2008 6:13 AM
(dunno if this was posted already or not)
noticed an encouraging tidbit about Gallo in the Post: http://www.nypost.com/seven/07132008/sports/knicks/a_summer_of_lovin_119686.htm A SUMMER OF LOVIN' the part i like is the fact that Gallo was more concerned about running plays for his teammates that haven't gotten a touch in a while than himself, even though he knows everyone in NY is waiting to see what he can do on the floor... i think he'll prove to be a great teammate for these guys & he'll have no problems fitting into Mike D's team oriented system. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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TMS
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7/15/2008 6:44 AM
i'm trying to temper my excitement over the guy but how can you not like what you've been hearing about him up to this point from people who really know basketball themselves? i don't expect his own coach to say negative things about him but for a guy who was trying to be reserved in his excitement it seems like Gallo's already won his coach over... that says a lot to me... & again, i like the fact that he's all about the team & isn't that concerned about his own personal stats... that will go a long way in building team chemistry.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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fishmike
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7/15/2008 7:38 AM
be patient and watch him grow. Its going to be a few years before we know if he really is special. I do love that we have a coach that will put these guys in a position to win games and succeed
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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earthmansurfer
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7/15/2008 7:42 AM
Posted by TMS: Yeah, when I watched the game last night a couple of things crossed my mind. During that second half I really started to get this feeling of "There is something special about this guy." Now, we are used to that when we see some of these athletes who jump out of the gym. Lots of those. I didn't want to get ahead of myself, so the thought crossed my mind "It's summer league and he is having a good half." But it was more than that. You can see he is an EXTREMELY smart player. Yeah, I saw that from one game, but connect the dots - On his team he was the leader (amongst men) at 19 years old! He has been playing professional since 16 and he has it in his genes. He didn't just have a good half, he is a good, very good player at 19. I'd like to see where he is in a few short years. Now, the only real worry that is valid (longterm) is can he keep up defensively with players in this league. I think at his size his athleticism looks fairly good, but his brains will take him a long way. His dad was one of the best defensive players ever over there, so you know he has been schooled and has it in his genes, but he was more of an offensive force the last season. But don't forget he was also asked to guard the best opposing player, as he stated (I'm sure it wasn't small guards). Athletically he is clearly not going to jump out of the gym, but the real question is, "Does he need to?". I'm afraid to make a comparison this early on, but many of us got a feeling about this kid. Some of it you can find in the stat sheets, like his shooting, but having him on the floor (in time) you know is just going to make the team a "Team". We haven't had many players that good since the Ewing years. I have a feeling (Again) we won't be worrying about his athleticism, as he is very good at his height and is only going to get better. He will have to play D in this league, though with this system it probably won't be top on his list. At least effort is not his problem. EMS The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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TMS
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7/15/2008 8:15 AM
the team aspect is what i am getting hyped on, not on his upside... who knows how good he's gonna be... i'm sure D'Antoni has a better feel of it than any of us do at this point seeing as though he's seen him in practice & in live play action up close & personal... i hope he's got that toughness that people are talking about, cuz we could definitely use more of that on this roster.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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earthmansurfer
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7/15/2008 8:41 AM
The team aspect is important and something we have lacked.
But to be a team player with good skills is one thing and to be a team player with exceptional skills is another. I'm hoping he is the later. Lee is perhaps a good example of the former, a very good player, great team player but his upside is perhaps limited (though his jumpshot was looking much better last year and considering the huge leap in his FT% one can't discount him developing a fairly good J (Remember, Oakley developed a great one)). EMS The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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tkf
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7/15/2008 3:54 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer: Agreed. gallanari will be a guy who can get his and still get everyone involved on offense. We haven't had a team oriented talent on this team in a long time... SL can be deceiving, some guys can put up 40, by taking every shot down court, that doesn't impress me. I want to see what type of ball player you are. How aware are you of game situations and do you make the proper adjustments.. Even with Gallo got hot, he didn't force things or go stalking the ball for more shots.. I think with his size, ability and smarts he can be something special. Again, I don't want to get ahead of myself, I got excited about guys like lampe before, so we do need to be careful. with that said, I still think gallo has the potential to be a special player.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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Bippity10
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7/15/2008 4:00 PM
Of course we want all these guys to be stars, but you change the culture when you start to hoard hard working players like DLee, Gallo, Chandler, Malik Rose and yes even guys like Collins, Jared and Fred Jones. Sometimes you have to build a culture with lesser talented guys before you can bring in the stars. Then if a guy like Gallo or Chandler turns in to somehting special they have good examples around them instead of jokesters. Once they build good habits they normally stay
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newyorknewyork
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7/15/2008 4:27 PM
I think the one thing that Gallo has going for him that can make him a really good player is his thinking and adapting within the game.
Be one of those players that seem 1-2 steps ahead of his opponents while the game goes one just very aware. We will see though https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Paladin55
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7/15/2008 4:30 PM
I am also one of those guys who is trying to temper his enthusiasm about this guy. You could see him grow and figure things out during a single game. He just has to come to understand the speed and strength of this league. And unlike a lot of SL players, he wasn't trying to do too much to impress people. As others have pointed out, he played the team game to a fault. Looks like he can fit into any system he has to play in. He also made some real rookie plays during the first half but did not sulk or try to do too much the second half. I hope he progresses the next few games and can use what he learned when he goes back to Italy to play a little more before Knick training camp begins.
And remember, this kid really is a "kid," physically, despite the sexy photo shots he did which show some cuts. In 3 years nobody will be talking about his lack of athleticism or strength. Gallinari, Chandler, and Mardy all looked good. Chandler will be a stud- better shooter than I though he was, and I really hope that Collins has turned the corner as a shooter. If his jumper is consistent he will get some good minutes, because he is another team player, in my opinion. No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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franco12
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7/15/2008 4:43 PM
we've had so many 'dumb' players that it takes some getting use to.
Even the Knicks of the 90's - they were gutsy, but I don't know that I would describe them as smart. He's almost a throw back player to the 70's. |
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Markji
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7/15/2008 6:07 PM
Posted by franco12:With his basketball smarts and team play Gallo starts to compare favorably to Bill Bradley. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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earthmansurfer
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7/15/2008 7:04 PM
Posted by tkf:Posted by earthmansurfer: Double Agreed. There are lots of good scorers out there and to a lesser extent shooters (imo). There are some pretty heady players too. Gallo seems like he may have the potential to be special in the fact that he brings together many qualities that can lead to a special player. The rebounding, think he will at least be average but with strength training that should go up. I am really stoked to watch this guy over the next few weeks and to get a better idea of what he brings before the season starts. We'll have to see how he fares against very quick opponents, we saw how he did against Tractor. Nice effort anyway. I have some hope since the Euro League he played in has lots of good players and he not only held his own, but he lead his team. Think about that, really think about that. A 19 year old kid leading a team and guarding the opposing teams best player (his quote, not sure how many positions that included - good question). In a half-hearted way, I think the more organized NBA game is actually better suited to him as it was helter skelter like yesterday. At times it was fun to watch and at other times it was like a "me" "fest" with players looking for their own shots. Guess that's sort of to be expected as they haven't really played with eachother, minus a few. But even in that disorder you can see how unselfish play helps the team to flow. I think I can understand now more, how someone like Zach could not really help in the chemistry department but not have a problem scoring. The box sheet does not tell it all... The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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tkf
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7/15/2008 7:59 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:Posted by tkf:Posted by earthmansurfer: Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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Ira
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7/15/2008 8:02 PM
Posted by Markji:Posted by franco12:With his basketball smarts and team play Gallo starts to compare favorably to Bill Bradley. He's the best guy on that team to compare Gallo too. Gallo's bigger, but they're both not that fast and both very smart. They both are good passers and have good shots. |
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nixluva
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7/15/2008 8:14 PM
These are great points. My contention is that Gallo's high IQ and specific skill level will be of greater value than someone who is more limited but has great athletic ability. In a team concept those kinds of players are of much use when you play better competition. They look great playing fast and above the rim, but when you face a good defensive team that won't let you get out and run and closes down the driving lanes, then you better have other skills and BB smarts. This is why I believe in Gallo.
As he matures he should be able to really help this team to play a higher level of ball. I used to love to watch Sacramento when they had Vlade and Webber etc. The passing and cutting was so much fun to watch. If you don't have a great PG like CP3 then you really want to make sure you have a lot of guys who know the passing game and can execute plays. Right now we don't have a lot of guys like that, but I like having Lee and Gallo, cuz I think they are bigs who will move the ball and I can't wait to see them get a feel for each other. I'd have no problems playing small with Lee at center, Gallo and Chan. |
D'Antoni is excited about Gallo... Gallo's all about the team