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7/14/2008  7:07 AM
Agent Told Memphis Not To Trade For Knicks' Lee?
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Jul 14, 2008 5:53 AM EST
David Lee is nervous that his time in New York may be coming to an end, but he does understand it is a business.

According to the New York Post, after meeting with coach Mike D'Antoni for lunch, Lee found out the reason his name keeps appearing in rumors is because the Knicks are trying to move Zach Randolph, and Lee would be included to try to entice another team into taking Randolph's large contract off the Knicks' hands.

Before the NBA Draft Lee was close to being dealt to Memphis in a trade which would have landed New York the Grizzlies' first round pick, #5 overall.

Lee did not deny his agent, Mark Bartlestein, before the draft advised Memphis not to trade for him because Lee would never sign a long-term contract with the Grizzlies.

"I don't know what happened on his end," Lee said. "His job is to represent his players."

Via New York Post
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7/14/2008  7:49 AM
I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
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7/14/2008  8:39 AM
Lee cost us Mayo. Only way he wins back my support is if he proves to be a better player(that means more than the one dimensional hustle player he currently is) and he resigns with us for a discount to prove that he really wants to play here.

So far there have been two instances where he has acte like a primadonna.

First was the whole Larry Brown is stealing our joy crap and now this. I am really starting to sour on him.

I just hope he realizes the repurcussions of his actions. He alienated himself from new management that will be here long term. That is never good. I am curious if this was an unolicted thing his agent did or if Memphis wanted him resigned as soon as he got there and then his agent did it. There is a difference to me.

I also don't buy that his agent was doing his own thing. Agents work for players. He had to know. That is something that had to be run by Lee first. I think that part is an out and out lie about him not knowing.
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7/14/2008  8:40 AM
Hmm, I'm surprised of this news. It would be a mistake to trade Lee. People are worried about him getting a five year - 5 mil. a year contract, but nobody complained about suckbury getting 20 mil.

And Mayo with 8 TOs? Doesn't surprise me a bit. One of three reasons why I didn't want him in NY.
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7/14/2008  8:43 AM
Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo. Only way he wins back my support is if he proves to be a better player(that means more than the one dimensional hustle player he currently is) and he resigns with us for a discount to prove that he really wants to play here.

So far there have been two instances where he has acte like a primadonna.

First was the whole Larry Brown is stealing our joy crap and now this. I am really starting to sour on him.

I just hope he realizes the repurcussions of his actions. He alienated himself from new management that will be here long term. That is never good. I am curious if this was an unolicted thing his agent did or if Memphis wanted him resigned as soon as he got there and then his agent did it. There is a difference to me.

I also don't buy that his agent was doing his own thing. Agents work for players. He had to know. That is something that had to be run by Lee first. I think that part is an out and out lie about him not knowing.


Fuck mayo! He sucks!
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7/14/2008  8:51 AM
Ok so its now fact that Donnie tried to trade Lee to Memphis only to have an agent interfere and mash up the deal.

Oh well.....so I guess the Knicks woulds drafted Love and we all woulda been annoyed only to completely rejoice since Minnesota woulda traded mayo down to get Love.

Water under the bridge.

It seems like D'antoni likes the idea of having a Wison/ Gallo forward tandem. If that's the case then Lee should be gone regardless. All I want is a plan and if that's the plan, I can dig it.

Couple questions:

If Lee doesn't want to go to Memphis, then where will he go?

Also, what kind of teams would want to take both Zach and Lee at the same time?

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7/14/2008  9:00 AM
He'd go to a winner, like Boston or L.A.

Contracts like Zach, curry, suckbury are the real problem with this team. Have always been and you almost have to wait it out. This is why I can't see a deal going down. With these kinds of salaries, virtually any deal is off the table. And getting rid of Lee, just to get rid of one of these contracts, how would that help us in the short term anyway? I still say the Knicks should stay a course of letting the big contracts at least get close to running out. We should be concentrating on huge cap space more than ever. Not these constant Mickey Mouse deals that keep us in limbo.

The 'win now' mind set never works with us. It can't because of some of these contracts. Best thing to do is wait it out.

We need youth, talent and space to be able to go after a couple real superstars in two to three years. People who can make a huge difference on this team, with an already 'in place' pool of talent on this team. And without having to go further into debt and never' having a chance to get out. This thing started ten years ago and it's into it's third try. It's not working, never will.
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7/14/2008  9:00 AM
Something I feel that I feel can't be overlooked in all of this. If we traded Lee for Mayo, we don't sign Duhon and we still have the full MLE to play with.

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7/14/2008  9:03 AM
Duhon was a good example of how to fill a space, without breaking the bank. He's short term and not expensive and he serves a purpose. It's a healthy contract and it was a good move by Donnie. Believe me, we don't need mayo.
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7/14/2008  9:11 AM
If I was a player I probably would do the same. There are a million example of players conveying through their agents that they wouldn't want to sign with a certain team...doesn't preclude the team for trading for him, or the player from signing with that team at some point.
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7/14/2008  9:15 AM
Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo. Only way he wins back my support is if he proves to be a better player(that means more than the one dimensional hustle player he currently is) and he resigns with us for a discount to prove that he really wants to play here.

So far there have been two instances where he has acte like a primadonna.

First was the whole Larry Brown is stealing our joy crap and now this. I am really starting to sour on him.

I just hope he realizes the repurcussions of his actions. He alienated himself from new management that will be here long term. That is never good. I am curious if this was an unolicted thing his agent did or if Memphis wanted him resigned as soon as he got there and then his agent did it. There is a difference to me.

I also don't buy that his agent was doing his own thing. Agents work for players. He had to know. That is something that had to be run by Lee first. I think that part is an out and out lie about him not knowing.

These kinds of opinions are really puzzling...
We all want players with sense of loyalty in NY, and, when some player wants to stay we hang all dogs on him.
So you want Lee to trade NYC for f..ng Memphis to help offset the Isaih/Dolan stupidity? Why in hell he will do this. No player will do this. We are in the crap over the head and we must eat it until we will get out.





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7/14/2008  9:17 AM
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.
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7/14/2008  9:20 AM
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.

What would you do in his place?
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7/14/2008  9:26 AM
Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo.

It's not Lee's job to get us Mayo. That's Walsh's and Dolan's. If my empoloyer wanted to shift me to a place I didn't want to go to, I'd do everything I could to get out of it too.
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7/14/2008  9:32 AM
4949 - how could you say he'll go to a winner? Right now the Knicks have him under contract. Lee's agent is playing dirty by telling memphis he won't resign with them. If Lee wants to go to a contender then that means he would only be in play for a mid-level deal....most if not all the "winners" are over the cap. Think san antonio is ready to finally move Duncan officially to center and go with David Lee @ the 4? Maybe but isn't that his only option?

Agents should stay outta stuff like this. He is looking out for his clients intrests, but who's to say David Lee could have went to Memphis and start winning between this season and next? They have a good youthfull foundation over there. He could sign there for good money too. He's taking a "L" possibly for location? I guess he really is a NY'er at heart. Why move to the bronx and have space when you can be in manhatten close to the action but have to eat, sleep and **** in the same room.
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7/14/2008  9:36 AM
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.

Funny quote for the day!

Lee can't catch a break anywhere. First of all, they bring in useless zach randolph, who takes Lee's minutes away and then they try to ship him off with the same guy who took his minutes. And now Lee is the one WHO DAMAGED THE KNICKS FUTURE????????

What a joke!!! How selfish can people get around here?

Isiah-diot destroyed our chances:

No talent for 2008-09:
suckbury
zach
curry
Q
Jerome
Jeffries = 66 million totals in contracts

No talent for 2009-10:
zach
curry
Q
jerome
jeffries = 48 million totals in contracts


And somehow Lee and his agent destroyed a part of our future?

What's wrong with this picture?

I'll never trust this' team again.
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7/14/2008  9:37 AM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.

What would you do in his place?
Thats another discussion, man! He did well for him, just bad for the Knicks, which is all I care about.
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7/14/2008  9:41 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.

Funny quote for the day!

Lee can't catch a break anywhere. First of all, they bring in useless zach randolph, who takes Lee's minutes away and then they try to ship him off with the same guy who took his minutes. And now Lee is the one WHO DAMAGED THE KNICKS FUTURE????????

What a joke!!! How selfish can people get around here?

Isiah-diot destroyed our chances:

No talent for 2008-09:
suckbury
zach
curry
Q
Jerome
Jeffries = 66 million totals in contracts

No talent for 2009-10:
zach
curry
Q
jerome
jeffries = 48 million totals in contracts


And somehow Lee and his agent destroyed a part of our future?

What's wrong with this picture?
You are thinking too clearly. Others aren't. Lee is fine and I am glad we still have him. And I don't blame him one bit for wanting to stay in NY. There is "Nothing wrong with this picture."

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7/14/2008  9:42 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by joec32033:

Lee cost us Mayo.

It's not Lee's job to get us Mayo. That's Walsh's and Dolan's. If my empoloyer wanted to shift me to a place I didn't want to go to, I'd do everything I could to get out of it too.

We can shift blame right back at isiah-diot again. Remember, he's the one that coached the team to three consecutive wins, at the end of the season. Our position in the draft could have been much better if not for that. And at best, all it did was tie isiah-diot with Brown's all-time single season loss record. This whole draft thing is the last left over **** from the isiah-diot era. People here trying to blame Lee is nonsense.
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7/14/2008  9:42 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by Ira:

I have no problem with that. Every player does what they feel is best for their career and their life, just like everyone else in the world.
I dont care about Lee being happy or having a good career. All I know is he (or his agent) damaged the Knicks future a little bit.

Funny quote for the day!

Lee can't catch a break anywhere. First of all, they bring in useless zach randolph, who takes Lee's minutes away and then they try to ship him off with the same guy who took his minutes. And now Lee is the one WHO DAMAGED THE KNICKS FUTURE????????

What a joke!!! How selfish can people get around here?

Isiah-diot destroyed our chances:

No talent for 2008-09:
suckbury
zach
curry
Q
Jerome
Jeffries = 66 million totals in contracts

No talent for 2009-10:
zach
curry
Q
jerome
jeffries = 48 million totals in contracts


And somehow Lee and his agent destroyed a part of our future?

What's wrong with this picture?
Most exagerated reply of the day.
I did not say Lee deserves to be burnt in hell. I said he damaged the Knicks future (and I just said "a little bit") because maybe we could have Mayo by now. The rest is you trying to make a big deal of what I said, which is just what every Knicks fan must think: I want the Knicks to succeed, not David Lee to be happy nor rich.
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