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2010 cap numbers around the nba
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djsunyc
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7/10/2008  2:17 PM
this is the $$$'s committed by teams in the summer of 2010. these #'s are as of today from hoopshype not counting any contracts signed this offseason. it also doesn't take into account any guaranteed $$$'s from draft picks from the 2008/2009/2010 drafts as well as any options that are picked up or MLE signings. these are the current base #'s for that offseason.

there are ALOT of teams that will have alot of cap space that summer. many teams will find it difficult to find guys that will want to play in their cities so they will have to overpay a bit to sign the weaker free agents.

as you can see, boston, dallas, denver, indiana, lakers, bucks, hornets, knicks and orlando will have to make some serious salary dump deals to make some major space if they want it. and it's going to be tough to find teams with the cap space to spend it on players from the teams above.


atl - $0
gsw - $0 (* maggette)
sea - $6.8
por - $7.4
chi - $9
lac - $11.3 (* baron)
min - $13
sac - $17
cle - $17.2
njn - $17.3
was - $19.5
phi - $21.3 (* brand)
mia - $22
uta - $23.4
tor - $23.8
det - $24.3
hou - $25
mem - $25.1
cha - $31.2
pho - $33.8
sas - $34.2
ind - $38.5
noh - $43
orl - $43 (* pietrus)
bos - $44.7
den - $45
dal - $45.2 (* diop)
nyk - $45.6
mil - $53.7 (* bogut)
lal - $54.8

* = does not include


[Edited by - djsunyc on 07-10-2008 2:33 PM]
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7/10/2008  2:20 PM
OMG we need to trade our big salaries fast if we even want to compete with any of those teams. Lebron is getting the Mega MAX deal
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7/10/2008  2:25 PM
I'm thinking 5 yrs 125 mill
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7/10/2008  2:55 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I'm thinking 5 yrs 125 mill
then he is signing with Cle cause only they can give him that deal

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7/10/2008  3:40 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I'm thinking 5 yrs 125 mill
then he is signing with Cle cause only they can give him that deal

In Brooklyn he will get 400-800 mils in endorsements in 5 years
So it is no question where he will go...


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7/10/2008  3:41 PM
A lot of those teams (including us perhaps) are going to be signing players between now and then which will make that total look drastically different.

If we don't committ to Curry and Crawford and let Randolph go, that could push our total down almost $35 mil or so, right? Which would even leave us room to resign Lee, Nate etc.

So I guess what I'm saying is we can't worry about what the outlook is now. We just have to make sure we keep working toward our goal and have the space and/or the assets for a sign and trade. New York is still a draw.
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7/10/2008  3:41 PM
that doesn't take into account guys like Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, Rudy Gay and all the recent rookies from 2005, 2006, and 2007 who will be getting extensions before the 2010 season. and it doesn't take into account any free agent signing for this summer and 2009 summer. the cap numbers will look a lot different.

but, it'll be funny, the league will be pretty wide open in the 2009-2010 season, because a lot of teams won't want to take on salary to try to win it all. I wonder who will...

also, those number are pretty ridiculous across the board - chicago's supposed $9million is all going to hinrich. it leaves out noah, nocoini, tyrus, rose, deng, gordon, etc - granted they don't have extensions, but if they get them chicago will not have much cap room.
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7/10/2008  3:43 PM
obviously there'll be alot of changes...but in the knicks case, that # is fixed barring an unforeseen situation where curry + crawford both opt out and leave the knicks altogether. otherwise, if they pick up the options, that's the #.

but this is just to show that alot of teams can get way under the cap that summer if that's their goal. and the knicks, along with the few other teams w/ $40 mil or so committed already will have a very difficult time shedding some loot.
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7/10/2008  3:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

obviously there'll be alot of changes...but in the knicks case, that # is fixed barring an unforeseen situation where curry + crawford both opt out and leave the knicks altogether. otherwise, if they pick up the options, that's the #.

but this is just to show that alot of teams can get way under the cap that summer if that's their goal. and the knicks, along with the few other teams w/ $40 mil or so committed already will have a very difficult time shedding some loot.

maybe not as hard a time if some of these teams actually have $40 million. they may be willing to take on some salary.
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djsunyc
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7/10/2008  3:50 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:

obviously there'll be alot of changes...but in the knicks case, that # is fixed barring an unforeseen situation where curry + crawford both opt out and leave the knicks altogether. otherwise, if they pick up the options, that's the #.

but this is just to show that alot of teams can get way under the cap that summer if that's their goal. and the knicks, along with the few other teams w/ $40 mil or so committed already will have a very difficult time shedding some loot.

maybe not as hard a time if some of these teams actually have $40 million. they may be willing to take on some salary.

knicks are in a better position to steal some players away from those teams with contracts than to shed contracts to get cap space in 2010.
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7/10/2008  4:00 PM
we shall see. two years is a long time in the NBA and some of these regimes may not have the pull with ownership to say, "we're gonna wait two years." donnie can do so because we were so bad before and there's really no other way to go.

some other team might get desperate though. warriors in nellie's last season, cavs, nuggets, etc.
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7/10/2008  4:09 PM
We just have to focus on two numbers. The first is the team cap for 2010-11. Let's say that's going to be $58m. The second is the maximum first year salary for players with LeBron's experience. Let's say that's $16m. So we have to be $16m under a $58m cap, which means we have to have a max cap hit of $42m (with those assumptions). This is very doable.
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7/10/2008  4:45 PM
I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

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7/10/2008  6:50 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

Neither Bosh nor Amare are the kinds of players that can bring a championship to a team. We'd have to get both, and have stocked up on talent through the draft to even be looking at a decent good team.

This 2010 talk is garbage- their is no light at the end of that tunnel.
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7/10/2008  8:26 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

even if we miss out on Lebron, if we can get a Bosh or Amare & then in 2011 sign a Tony Parker, that's a good way to build a core to contend... the important thing is to have that option... we NEED to unload salary by 2010, it's a huge step in achieving prolonged success IMO.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

even if we miss out on Lebron, if we can get a Bosh or Amare & then in 2011 sign a Tony Parker, that's a good way to build a core to contend... the important thing is to have that option... we NEED to unload salary by 2010, it's a huge step in achieving prolonged success IMO.


i think Dwight Howard, melo and Deron Willimas will be free agents then too. the goal is to get enough cap room for those two years. its a shame about cp3, though. i would love to see him as an option to come to the big apple.
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7/11/2008  12:24 AM
2011 is not really the problem since Curry, Zach, Jefferies & Jamal's contracts will all be off the books by then... we should have plenty of cap space to pursue anyone in the free agency market that year even if we sign a max contract player in 2010, unless Walsh gets possessed by the Isiah demon & decides to extend some of those guys to big contract extensions.
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7/11/2008  12:14 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

Neither Bosh nor Amare are the kinds of players that can bring a championship to a team. We'd have to get both, and have stocked up on talent through the draft to even be looking at a decent good team.

This 2010 talk is garbage- their is no light at the end of that tunnel.

Key thing for the knicks is acquiring one of the top free-agents in 2010 and take it from there.

Whoever they select, may not be the cornerstone of the franchise unless it's Lebron.
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7/11/2008  12:30 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

Neither Bosh nor Amare are the kinds of players that can bring a championship to a team. We'd have to get both, and have stocked up on talent through the draft to even be looking at a decent good team.

This 2010 talk is garbage- their is no light at the end of that tunnel.

Key thing for the knicks is acquiring one of the top free-agents in 2010 and take it from there.

Whoever they select, may not be the cornerstone of the franchise unless it's Lebron.

What good does it do us to max out someone like Bosh in 2010? Its just Allan Houston all over again.

When you have a player earning up 1/3 the total cap number, that player better be a super star- because there isn't much room left after that.

We need to face reality. There is no quick fix in 2010 and it will take about 5 years to undo Isiah's mess.
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7/11/2008  1:31 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

I see us getting either Chris Bosh or maybe Amare Stoudmire instead in 2010. Wade probably will remain with MAimi now that their goal is to get Boozer next yr when he opts out.

Lebron + JAY Z = Brooklyn

Walsh should be able to go below the cap by 2010.
If he can rid himself of Zach for expring contacts asap and Curry opts out just like Brand, our payroll would be around 28 mill.

Neither Bosh nor Amare are the kinds of players that can bring a championship to a team. We'd have to get both, and have stocked up on talent through the draft to even be looking at a decent good team.

This 2010 talk is garbage- their is no light at the end of that tunnel.

Key thing for the knicks is acquiring one of the top free-agents in 2010 and take it from there.

Whoever they select, may not be the cornerstone of the franchise unless it's Lebron.

What good does it do us to max out someone like Bosh in 2010? Its just Allan Houston all over again.

When you have a player earning up 1/3 the total cap number, that player better be a super star- because there isn't much room left after that.

We need to face reality. There is no quick fix in 2010 and it will take about 5 years to undo Isiah's mess.


Why makes you think it will take 5 yrs to clean isiah's mess? 3/4 of the team can come off the books by 2010 so we'll be able to obtain some flexibilty and buying power in the free agent mkt.

We have Donnie Walsh as the pres and when the opportunity presents itself, he may orchestrate some major deals.

Our payroll can possibly hit 28mm by the end of 2010 so we can sign one premiere player to a max contract and take it from there.

Acquiring Bosh won't be like Allan Houston. By 2010, Bosh will be 26 and he's not a shooting guard. HE's a bonifide 20- 10 big man that could really help the knicks upfront. When houston got his 100mm, he was already 33 yrs of age.



[Edited by - WOODMANnYk on 11-07-2008 1:32 PM]
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