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CrushAlot
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7/9/2008  4:43 PM
It was reported on Rome's show today that the Clippers communicated to David Falk that they would match the Sixers deal but that Falk never communicated this information to Brand. Apparently Falk has been holding a grudge since '98 when Olawakandi was drafted first by the Clips instead of a Falk client. This was reported by guest hosts, one of which is a Clipper fan. However, alot of information about Brand was shared that would indicate that he was happy in LA.
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7/9/2008  5:13 PM
ESPN had it too, in the Mark Stein column. Falk wanted them to take Bibby #1.

Seems a little far-fetched. He put his client on a better team and got him more money. It's all business. Owners want to act like they get betrayed when a player leaves for more money, but they're not exactly in this thing for the love of the game. It's all business. Falk does have a reputation, I guess, but still it's hard to argue that Brand would've been better on the Clippers than he is in Philly.
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7/9/2008  5:45 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

ESPN had it too, in the Mark Stein column. Falk wanted them to take Bibby #1.

Seems a little far-fetched. He put his client on a better team and got him more money. It's all business. Owners want to act like they get betrayed when a player leaves for more money, but they, I guess, but still it's hard to argue that Brand would've been better on the Clippers than he is in Philly.

thats how i see it as well. brand is approaching 30, has been on 1 play-off team in 9 years, and had the scare of his professional life prior to last season. i'm quite sure when he was in surgery/rehab looking at his career achievements coupled with what kg did in boston last year, the opportunity to come east was going to be hard to pass up.

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7/9/2008  5:50 PM
I wonder if Baron would endorse Biedrins.
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7/9/2008  6:35 PM
Some of the points made about Brand wanting to stay included, he has a home, a recording studio, an LA based charity, his wife is expecting, he said he wanted to be a clipper for life, and he said that he wanted to play with Baron Davis. I do think there is something to this. Falk had alot more power before the current salary cap was put in place. He had a significant impact on some teams and GMs careers by how he negotiated for his clients. Agents are hardly neccessary with the current salary cap but Falk used to have a tremendous amount of power and one of his bigger clients was the players union president.
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7/9/2008  6:35 PM
Brand can't be a restricted free agent though, correct?
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7/9/2008  7:24 PM
has anyone actually thought about the sixers squad.

scoring big man in brand
defensive shot blocking center in dalembert
pg in miller
star in igodala
they really just need a solid 3pt shooter, bet they wish they still had korver.
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7/9/2008  8:05 PM
i agree, w/Brand, Dally & Evans their frontcourt defense will be very good, & Iggy & Miller on the perimeter aren't bad defenders either & give you perimeter scoring... add a shooter & they're a legit contender like u said... how good of a shooter will thaddeus young turn out to be i wonder?
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7/9/2008  8:33 PM
zach randolph makes sense for the clippers now...
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7/9/2008  9:00 PM
Brand fits perfect in Philly...same reason we said Zach did with all the "cheeks likes zach" rumors earlier in the year.

David Falk.....I can't wait till someone writes a book on this guy or he does a auto-bio.
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7/9/2008  9:56 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Brand fits perfect in Philly...same reason we said Zach did with all the "cheeks likes zach" rumors earlier in the year.

David Falk.....I can't wait till someone writes a book on this guy or he does a auto-bio.


David Falk is a person that no Knicks fan can ever like. All we have to do is revisit the X-Man sign with Boston. That bastard Falk played the Knicks and Patrick Ewing for his money boy Jordon.
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7/10/2008  1:05 AM
Reasons debated as Elton Brand leaves Clippers for 76ers
Star and his agent say it was Clippers' first low offer and other issues that made them look elsewhere. Coach Mike Dunleavy says team did everything to retain Brand and will move on with Baron Davis.

By Jonathan Abrams
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

July 10, 2008

One thing is certain: Elton Brand is now a Philadelphia 76er.

How, exactly, he got there, was up for debate Wednesday among the Clippers, Brand and his agent, David Falk.

Brand, who signed a five-year deal with the 76ers worth an estimated $82 million, originally received an offer from the Clippers last week for five years and $70 million, a deal that was delivered as a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum, Falk said.

"I wasn't angry, but I was surprised. You don't expect a team to give a franchise player an ultimatum. You wouldn't expect the Lakers to do that with Kobe Bryant. You wouldn't expect the Heat to do that with Dwyane Wade," Falk said.

Countered Clippers Coach Mike Dunleavy:

"After I supposedly gave him a take it or leave it offer, we raised the offer to $75 million and $81 million. They can spin this thing anyway they want to try and spin it. The bottom line is, anything Elton ever wanted I did it for him. They stopped having communication with us more than a week ago."

And finally, the player himself:

"That was my intent to sign with the Clippers," Brand said Thursday. "But I'm not a lawyer. We need to make a deal. And in making the deal, it fell through."

Falk said Brand opted out of the final season of his contract with the Clippers, a season in which he was owed $16.4 million, with every intention of re-signing with the organization.

"In free agency, everything is compressed," said Falk, who also represented Michael Jordan and negotiated Sam Cassell's buyout from the Clippers last season.

"You don't have time to play ping-pong. When they said $70 [million], I took it for face value. It was too much of a sacrifice, that's all."

Falk said neither he, nor Brand, was seeking revenge or additional money and, if that had been the case, they would have accepted a five-year and $90-million offer from Golden State.

"Elton made the decision," Falk said. "Coming to Philadelphia wasn't a move made out of revenge. The Warriors were terrific. They were patient and waited. And I know they were very disappointed. If revenge was the motive, he would have ended up in Golden State."

Others in the Clippers organization, including some of Brand's former teammates, believed a deal had been locked in place with him, especially after a verbal agreement was reached with free-agent point guard Baron Davis. Brand had text messaged teammates that he was excited about the prospects of the team, according to NBA sources who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about player movements.

Falk said that he found out, belatedly, that the Clippers had been negotiating with Brand without his agent. "I didn't know it then, I know it now," Falk said. "I know it after the fact. It's probably the reason that the deal fell apart."

Still, once the negotiations officially began between the parties last week, with Falk involved, a sticking point became an early termination option that Brand wanted.

Brand said he was told the Clippers could not get owner Donald T. Sterling on the phone to grant the request. So, he and Falk immediately began to look elsewhere.

"It's negotiations. No matter what was said, David Falk, my registered agent, never agreed to any deal" with the Clippers, Brand said.

Said Dunleavy:

"I don't know what poisoned Elton against us. But obviously something did. I loved Elton as a player. I'm disappointed and hurt that he left us, but I wish him the best in his future career in Philadelphia."

Late last week, after the Warriors offered Brand $90 million, the Clippers upped their offer to $75 million. Then, Tuesday, the 76ers made a trade to clear some cap space for Brand. That was when the Clippers offered him $81-million deal for five years, a deal, Falk said, that was only extended after the organization knew they had accepted Philadelphia's offer.

Brand reiterated that he felt the Clippers' first offer was a take-it-or-leave it demand: "That's exactly what it was. Or that's what they said it was. And then, they came back and matched. But it's like, 'OK, do that the first time.' "

Dunleavy said the Clippers never got the proper chance, because the communication lines had been cut.

In the end, Brand said the decision was made to be closer to his family -- he is from New York -- and the chance to play with a strong, young nucleus in Philadelphia.

And what about that potential Brand-Davis pairing?

"That could have been a good team and a real special team. But sometimes, enough is enough," Brand said. "I wish them well. They're not bad people and this isn't like a get-out-of-jail card."

But, he is gone, with a Clippers Nation wondering what went so wrong, so fast.
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7/10/2008  1:13 AM
I have to think that this move was made by Falk. He can spin it but he already had a grudge against the Clippers. When Dunlevy attempted to negotiate a deal without Falk I think Falk made up his mind that he would move Brand. Agents no longer have alot of power because the cap structure is set but I believe Falk did not share the Clips offer with Brand.
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7/10/2008  1:17 AM
anyone know if Philly give Brand that opt out option he was looking for from the Clips, & if so, when would that option kick in?
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7/11/2008  9:48 AM
Dunleavy claims Brand committed to Clippers

By PHIL JASNER
Philadelphia Daily News

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THE BUZZ IN Los Angeles about the signing of Elton Brand by the 76ers isn't quite the same as the buzz in Philadelphia.

Here, new Sixers season-ticketholders can get a jersey signed by Brand.

There, Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy said this isn't what he signed up for.

Dunleavy said yesterday that the circumstances around which Brand left the Clippers as an unrestricted free agent to sign a 5-year contract with the Sixers represented "the strangest and most shocking" experience in his career.

Dunleavy said he had a verbal agreement with Brand that the 6-8 power forward, who opted out of a remaining season at $16.44 million, would remain with the Clippers for 5 years and $70 million. Brand instead made a decision to sign with the Sixers for 5 years and what has been confirmed as $79.8 million.

"People around the league who know me know I tell the truth," Dunleavy said in a telephone conversation yesterday. "And in this case, too many people know the truth. We had a verbal agreement at $70 million. A verbal agreement is not binding, I know that. Just come back and say, 'I changed my mind.' Just say it. Nobody can do anything about it."

David Falk, in a separate telephone conversation, said that he - as the registered agent for Brand - had not reached any agreement with Dunleavy or the Clippers. He also said that, by rule, any discussions about Brand should have been with him, regardless of whether Brand made the initial move.

"To say that we had a verbal agreement is absolutely, categorically not true," Falk said. "We had one discussion. I never committed to anything. They're embarrassed that they lost him."

Later, Falk said, "Let me be crystal clear - I never had a deal."

Dunleavy denied that the Clippers' offer of $70 million was in any way an "ultimatum," as Brand and Falk indicated on Wednesday. He said the only ultimatum had to do with whether Brand was going to opt out of his existing contract.

"Our owner said he didn't feel comfortable with that kind of contract based on [Brand] coming back from an Achilles' tendon injury," Dunleavy said. "We said we could extend him from where he was, he could opt out and we could make a new deal or he could stay with the deal he had. We were told we'd lose him for nothing, and I said I'd rather have him for 1 year and have him play great, and if he leaves, he leaves."

Falk said that in the weeks leading up to the July 1 start of free agency, he had discussions with the Clippers about a possible extension for Brand. He said the Clippers' offer was for 5 years and $60 million, which included what would have been this season's salary of $16.44 million, and that, "we rejected that out of hand."

Dunleavy said Brand had come to him.

"I've never been closer to a player," Dunleavy said. "He said, 'I want $15 million a year and you spend some money on a free agent.' I took that to the owner [Donald Sterling], and with some persuasion he said OK. I went to Elton and said 'Done.' But when I spoke to Falk about it, I realized Falk knew nothing about this, that Elton hadn't told him. I have a text message from Elton saying we're good to go."

By then, Baron Davis had opted out of his contract with Golden State, and was showing interest in the Clippers.

"Five days ago, we got our deal up to $75 million," Dunleavy said. "When we heard Philly had made a deal with Minnesota [to add $2.8 million in cap space], I said, 'We can get to $81 million if we cut guys, but I thought you wanted a good team.' I never heard back from them, although they've acknowledged they got the message. I delivered everything Elton ever asked me. I give [Falk] credit; he steered [this] the way he wanted it."

Falk said that, by the time the Clippers raised their offer, he and Brand had made a commitment to the Sixers.

Postscript: The Clippers signed Davis to a 5-year contract worth $65 million. They lost free agent Corey Maggette to Golden State. They had a face-to-face meeting with Atlanta's Josh Smith, the restricted free agent the Sixers courted. They renounced players Dan Dickau, Shaun Livingston, Boniface Ndong, Smush Parker and James Singleton.

There are, clearly, varying versions of all that went on. But, bottom line, they lost Elton Brand.

"We wish Elton the best," Dunleavy said.

"The best thing to say," Falk said, "is that this is the Elton Brand era in Philadelphia." *
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7/11/2008  9:52 AM
brand's agent to clip brass:

"lmao...who takes a paycut to play for the friggin Clippers?"

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7/11/2008  10:18 AM
Posted by Michael6835:

has anyone actually thought about the sixers squad.

scoring big man in brand
defensive shot blocking center in dalembert
pg in miller
star in igodala
they really just need a solid 3pt shooter, bet they wish they still had korver.

Brand's a shot blocker himself. If they get that to work, they're going to be REALLY hard to score on.
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7/11/2008  10:39 AM
Stern should investigate this and attempt to rid Falk from the league. He did alot of damage when agents had more power.
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7/11/2008  10:58 AM
Posted by CrushAlot:

Stern should investigate this and attempt to rid Falk from the league. He did alot of damage when agents had more power.

LOL, Stern has been trying to get rid of Falk for over 20 years. Falk was pulling Ewing's strings during the 98 lockout. Stern wanted to limit the influence that Falk and other super agents had in this league. Falk took that personal and has look to screw owners as much as possible. MJ and Ewing can't be wrong, if I was a player I would want that guy representing me. Screw David Stern.
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7/11/2008  11:04 AM
Players do not need agents the way the current salary cap system is set up. I think having Falk as your agent is kind of a status symbol because he had the previous generations superstars.
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Brand deal based on Falk getting revenge on Clippers?

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