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How about these options to bring in a shotblocker?
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TMS
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6/30/2008  2:31 AM
Shotblocking has been 1 of our biggest needs since Dikembe left... i know a lotta guys around here think it's overrated but you have only to watch the games to see guys on other teams doing the salsa straight to the hole on every possession to figure out we need a shotblocker in the worst way possible.

would u guys be opposed to bringing in 1 of these guys on a 1-2 year deal at minimal dollars?:

Alonzo Mourning - a lotta Knick fans hate this guy & for good reason but he's always been a warrior whereever he's played & i've always felt he could make a great Knick... i wanted him a few years ago when he got bought out by the Raptors & people thought i was crazy... MIA picked him up & he's averaged over 2 bpg for them ever since... yeah, he's 38 but even at that age he was able to block almost 2 bpg in just over 15 minutes last season... on a LLE type deal i think he'd be a nice pickup for us, especially if we're about to trade D Lee for a PG... we could use a capable backup C around here for a change.

Theo Ratliff - he could easily be had for the veteran's minimum on a 1 year deal... last year he averaged 1.5 bpg in about 17 minutes for DET & MIN.

Brian Skinner - another guy we can easily sign for the veteran's minimum on a 1 year deal... has experience playing in D'Antoni's system & averaged 1.2 bpg for them in just under 13 minutes.

Chris Anderson - 1 year veteran's minimum deal easy... unlike the other 3 mentioned this guy seems like a great fit for a quick up & down the court style of play... he's the youngest of the bunch at only 29 but comes w/all kinds of off the court issues as we're all well aware... still, in only 7 mpg last year he was able to average almost a block a game... this guy has absolutely zero offensive skills though whereas Zo & Skinner can knock down the occasional open J.


whatchoo guys think? any viable options here? anyone else? i think S&T's for guys like Marion, AK47 or Josh Smith are a stretch & ain't no way the Warriors are letting Biedrins go.
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6/30/2008  4:34 AM
Chris Anderson - 1 year veteran's minimum deal easy... unlike the other 3 mentioned this guy seems like a great fit for a quick up & down the court style of play... he's the youngest of the bunch at only 29 but comes w/all kinds of off the court issues as we're all well aware... still, in only 7 mpg last year he was able to average almost a block a game... this guy has absolutely zero offensive skills though whereas Zo & Skinner can knock down the occasional open J.

Anderson is the only guy that makes sense out of that 4 for D'Antoni's system. Mourning is too old and injury prone, Ratliff is too injury prone, Skinner is okay, but I prefer Anderson for what we are trying to do.

Anderson also renders David Lee redundant. He's not as good a rebounder, but he finishes as well, shoots a little better and he plays some D. Since we all think Lee is on the move, I think it is a low-risk high reward deal that we should think about as the summer shapes up.

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6/30/2008  7:36 AM
Chris anderson is the only option? Anybody catch him last year? How'd he look?
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6/30/2008  8:10 AM
Yea he looked like a guy who hasn't played pro ball for a few yrs.
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6/30/2008  9:05 AM
a trade for Camby perhaps? D Lee & Malik's expiring probably won't get it done tho.
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6/30/2008  9:06 AM
I don't think I could deal with Mourning in a Knick Jersey
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6/30/2008  9:47 AM
Justin Williams and Louis Amundson are two guys I'd seriously look to bring in, especially if we wind up trading Lee. Williams is young and was a rebounding and shot-blocking machine in college. Amundson would provide relentless hustle, rebounding, a little scoring on the interior and also add some shot-blocking. Williams is an unrestricted FA while Amundson is a restricted FA (Sixers) - they shouldn't cost that much...

You trade a David Lee package for a PG (Raymond Felton, Sergio Rodriguez or Kyle Lowry are my top choices - probably in that order) - I try for a 2 for 1 deal (Lee + Balkman???) here which would open up another roster spot ---- then I look to add BOTH Williams and Amundson. The roster would be at 15. I guarantee NY would love both of those guys....

1 - Felton, Sergio or Lowry, Marbury, Collins
2 - Crawford, Nate
3 - Gallinari, Chandler, Q, JJ2
4 - Zach, Amundson, Malik
5 - Curry, Justin Williams, Turd

Still needs some work, still have to trim some fat, but I wouldn't be too upset if we went into the season with that roster. We get a legit PG for the future and add two hustle role players that will play very hard for you. Next for me would be to add a young talented off-guard with some size. If it'd be possible to add a JR Smith or Vujacic along with Williams and Amundson I'd do it - if the the money doesn't make sense, I add Williams and Amundson now then worry about adding a big 2-guard later (maybe go after Wayne Ellington in next year's draft????).


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6/30/2008  9:51 AM
d' anoni isn't going to play guys who offer nothing to the offense
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6/30/2008  9:57 AM
Posted by McK1:

d' anoni isn't going to play guys who offer nothing to the offense

so basically, the nyk 2006 draft could end up released...
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6/30/2008  10:06 AM
I would persue a defsieve shot blocking power forward before a point guard, so I like the idea of the young guys on your list.
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6/30/2008  10:26 AM
I also agree that a shot blocker is our biggest need. We need an enforcer in the middle i can care less if he scores 0 points a night. Theres so much score first players on this team that we need a good role player that rebounds and blocks shots badly.

Justin Williams sounds pretty good to me and he can be had for almost nothing.
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6/30/2008  10:35 AM
What about Diop? He's unrestricted I believe. He's not a bum offensively. He knows what he's doing out there.....in his first game in a Net uniform he hit his career high for points and eagle and jackson were both pointing out the fact he looked like he could be a factor on offense, at least you have to guard him cuz he can score and pass. This is our guy. Keep him away from Cuban though, cuz he wants him back.
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6/30/2008  10:42 AM
haha i was sitting next to diop at the espn zone the night of the draft, that guy is huge lol. The Mavs never wanted to give him up but deavean george hadda start bitchin....Yea i definately agree diop is a decent player and im guessing the aquiring of brook lopez might be signaling his departure from jersey.
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6/30/2008  1:26 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

What about Diop? He's unrestricted I believe. He's not a bum offensively. He knows what he's doing out there.....in his first game in a Net uniform he hit his career high for points and eagle and jackson were both pointing out the fact he looked like he could be a factor on offense, at least you have to guard him cuz he can score and pass. This is our guy. Keep him away from Cuban though, cuz he wants him back.

I'd be more apt to bringing in Diop vs. the old guys. It's taking a while with Diop, but he seems to get a little bit better every year. He's still just a kid.
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6/30/2008  1:34 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by McK1:

d' anoni isn't going to play guys who offer nothing to the offense

so basically, the nyk 2006 draft could end up released...

or not have their options picked up... that would slice about $4 million off the 2010 cap number.
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6/30/2008  1:36 PM
How about drafting a player with the number 6 pick that also block shots? Oh yeah, he was a project and wasn't the BPA. So why are we now worry about shotblocking?
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6/30/2008  1:41 PM
I can't say I'm interested in any of those guys TMS.
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6/30/2008  1:42 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by McK1:

d' anoni isn't going to play guys who offer nothing to the offense

so basically, the nyk 2006 draft could end up released...

or not have their options picked up... that would slice about $4 million off the 2010 cap number.

according to hoopshype, knicks cap # in the summer of 2010 will be: $45,573,596

that # is from just this grouping: zach ($17,333,333) + eddy ($11,276,863) + jamal ($10,080,000) + jeffries ($6,883,400).

add in danillo's approximate of $3.2 mil that year. and let's say another $2 mil for the 2009 first round pick.

so total cap # in 2010 between zach + eddy + jamal + jeffries + danillo + 2009 #1 equals aproximately $51 mil. that # doesn't include balkman/lee/nate/mardy/chandler/morris.

let's say the cap that year will get up to $60 mil, so right now, if there are no 3 year signings, knicks are looking at best $9 mil cap room in the summer of 2010.

i think they seriously need to consider moving curry for a deal that end one year sooner.
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6/30/2008  3:07 PM
Isiah really flooded the rooster with stiffs.

as far as cheap shot-blocking goes, David Harrison probably could be had for the cheap. Walsh knows him so...
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6/30/2008  3:10 PM
Posted by McK1:

Isiah really flooded the rooster with stiffs.

freudian slip...
How about these options to bring in a shotblocker?

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