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BRIGGS
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6/29/2008  4:15 PM
and tell me we picked the right guy?

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6/29/2008  4:28 PM
BRIGGS this kid the knicks got is as good if not better and they say he has another inch or two to grow also.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Rwdsjq3WLE



[Edited by - Vmart on 06-29-2008 4:43 PM]
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6/29/2008  4:28 PM
Nice article. I wouldn't have minded Randolph at pick 6. But I'm happy with Danillo. From watching his highlights and reading about him, one thing stands out... Heart.
The negative thing that I heard about Randolph was related to effort (perhaps IQ) and right now we can't take that chance. Randolph might be Tyrus Thomas in more ways than one.
Now Danillo clearly doesn't have the athleticism but he has more brains that most (watch his highlights, read about him - I know highlights don't tell the whole story
but you can see a very very heady player in him).

I am looking forward to seeing what Danillo becomes.

Always respect your opinion but since the draft has ended you just seem bent on attacking the pick in any way, shape or form and it's tiring. The draft is over, we made
our pick, live with it. I'd like to see you put the effort into researching who we picked, cause he clearly has talent and you an eye for it. (But I haven't seen that
lately, excuse me if I missed it).

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6/29/2008  5:13 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:

Nice article. I wouldn't have minded Randolph at pick 6. But I'm happy with Danillo. From watching his highlights and reading about him, one thing stands out... Heart.
The negative thing that I heard about Randolph was related to effort (perhaps IQ) and right now we can't take that chance. Randolph might be Tyrus Thomas in more ways than one.
Now Danillo clearly doesn't have the athleticism but he has more brains that most (watch his highlights, read about him - I know highlights don't tell the whole story
but you can see a very very heady player in him).

I am looking forward to seeing what Danillo becomes.

Always respect your opinion but since the draft has ended you just seem bent on attacking the pick in any way, shape or form and it's tiring. The draft is over, we made
our pick, live with it. I'd like to see you put the effort into researching who we picked, cause he clearly has talent and you an eye for it. (But I haven't seen that
lately, excuse me if I missed it).

EMS

My opinion on him is neutral. While skilled I dont see what position he plays. At the end of the day defense and rebounding =rings and a guy who sits 30 feet from the basket without the quick lift doesnt strike me as a PF who is going to be grabbing more than 5 rebounds a game in the NBA and that is from what they are saying the 4 slot. On the other end--can he block shots defend disrupt--I don't see it. His legs are stiff--he's athletic but not NBA athletic. So if this is the way we are going to play--a 6-9 220 pound PF who shoots 3 pointers--I dont like the thought process--I would believe the NBA finals would change some minds about this finesse stuff.

I will add as afan Danillo ios my new favorite Knick if they trade Lee because I will always root for my team and have the hope that I am wrong.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 5:19 PM]
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6/29/2008  5:19 PM
Randolph's a weak turnover machine. I'm glad the Knicks were one of the 13 teams that passed on him in what was considered a shallow draft.

[Edited by - PhilinLA on 29-06-2008 5:28 PM]
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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6/29/2008  5:23 PM
i like randolph, but it does worry me that he played on a bad college team. his team was not good and barely won any games. he is a decent prospect but has as much or more work to do to become an nba player as danilo. i would have liked randolph because of his shotblocking ability, but realistically it seems d'antoni is not concerned with defense. long-term i think this will be a huge problem. short-term we'll probably score more and be more entertaining to watch.
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6/29/2008  5:27 PM
6-foot-10, 197-pound frame, this is troubling
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Posted by buddapaw:

6-foot-10, 197-pound frame, this is troubling

Lets see 18 years old--doctors say 2 more inches which likely meets extended wingspan as well--filling out=15 pounds + 10 pounds per inch--how about a 7 foot+ 235 pound athletic two way skill monster

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 5:32 PM]
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by earthmansurfer:

Nice article. I wouldn't have minded Randolph at pick 6. But I'm happy with Danillo. From watching his highlights and reading about him, one thing stands out... Heart.
The negative thing that I heard about Randolph was related to effort (perhaps IQ) and right now we can't take that chance. Randolph might be Tyrus Thomas in more ways than one.
Now Danillo clearly doesn't have the athleticism but he has more brains that most (watch his highlights, read about him - I know highlights don't tell the whole story
but you can see a very very heady player in him).

I am looking forward to seeing what Danillo becomes.

Always respect your opinion but since the draft has ended you just seem bent on attacking the pick in any way, shape or form and it's tiring. The draft is over, we made
our pick, live with it. I'd like to see you put the effort into researching who we picked, cause he clearly has talent and you an eye for it. (But I haven't seen that
lately, excuse me if I missed it).

EMS

My opinion on him is neutral. While skilled I dont see what position he plays. At the end of the day defense and rebounding =rings and a guy who sits 30 feet from the basket without the quick lift doesnt strike me as a PF who is going to be grabbing more than 5 rebounds a game in the NBA and that is from what they are saying the 4 slot. On the other end--can he block shots defend disrupt--I don't see it. His legs are stiff--he's athletic but not NBA athletic. So if this is the way we are going to play--a 6-9 220 pound PF who shoots 3 pointers--I dont like the thought process--I would believe the NBA finals would change some minds about this finesse stuff.

I will add as afan Danillo ios my new favorite Knick if they trade Lee because I will always root for my team and have the hope that I am wrong.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 5:19 PM]


As opposed to a 6'10'' 197 lbs pf. Come on BRIGGS you are hating on the kid for no good reason. The Knicks who actually ran work outs and came to the conclusion he was better than your boy Randolph. Its pissing you off that they would go against the great draft analyist which is what you consider yourself. I respect you BRIGGS but this I hope and pray isn't going to be you mind set from now on.
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6/29/2008  6:43 PM
Weird.
Some guys are bashing a kid that successfuly plays against MEN, paid veterans, not young players aged 18 to 20.

Guys, Euroleague is no joke. Euroleague teams would destroy 9/10 of NCAA teams, I watched both for years and there is no freaking comparison.
But you Briggs are just simply hating the kid, denying even that long video where he shows a wide array of moves (assists, long range shots, drible, 1on1 moves...) just to prove your point with negative posts.

One question Briggs, what kind of fan are you?
Would you be happy to see him fail just to be able to say ''I told you so''?

Let me tell you what a true fan is.
The guy is on the team, he's one of us now. We should all hope and root instead of whining all day long.
The kid has heart and is talented.
What do want more ?

Cheers, let's go Knicks!


[Edited by - raven on 06-29-2008 6:44 PM]
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6/29/2008  7:18 PM
What impresses me most about this kid, much more than his shooting stroke which looks flawless btw, is the way he continuely carves his way to the basket and effortlessly shakes guys to get open. At that size he's pure skill at least offensively. He looks tough and actually looks NBA ready to me. I'm not even worried about his defense. He's gonna cause big matchup problems whether he winds up playing the 3 or the 4. Eventually with 30+ minutes a night you get 20 ppg easy outta this guy (with that stroke and his ability to continuously get to the line and then make his FTs at a high clip - come on man, there's no denying that) and I'm gonna say right now he'll play decent defense and I betcha he averages more rebounds per than Eddy Curry. Obviously we gotta take a closer look at these summer league games coming up to get a better read on him but I'm not even thinking about Jerryd Bayless anymore. I really like what we got here....
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Posted by raven:

Weird.
Some guys are bashing a kid that successfuly plays against MEN, paid veterans, not young players aged 18 to 20.

Guys, Euroleague is no joke. Euroleague teams would destroy 9/10 of NCAA teams, I watched both for years and there is no freaking comparison.
But you Briggs are just simply hating the kid, denying even that long video where he shows a wide array of moves (assists, long range shots, drible, 1on1 moves...) just to prove your point with negative posts.

One question Briggs, what kind of fan are you?
Would you be happy to see him fail just to be able to say ''I told you so''?

Let me tell you what a true fan is.
The guy is on the team, he's one of us now. We should all hope and root instead of whining all day long.
The kid has heart and is talented.
What do want more ?

Cheers, let's go Knicks!


[Edited by - raven on 06-29-2008 6:44 PM]

I dont like the direction and Im pointing out some flaw I see in his game. I said he is a skill player and hes 6-9. Im certainly not rooting against him--but you have to accept that some people may believe it was a mistake pick and accept that those people will highlight the flaws. Im not a cheerleader fan I never was a day in my life. I would like to see danillo prove me wrong[believe me] that he is not something marginally better than Boston Nachbar. I read and accept other peopkle spositive reviews I just dont agree with them. I dont see a big time player here.
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6/29/2008  8:25 PM
Summer league will give us a better idea of whether he can guard NBA players. I am willing to give him a chance, but it is the same old story. Getting an offensive player with no defense and having to find players to compliment him. Maybe he can bulk up and make it as a PF. We will see.
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6/29/2008  8:32 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by buddapaw:

6-foot-10, 197-pound frame, this is troubling

Lets see 18 years old--doctors say 2 more inches which likely meets extended wingspan as well--filling out=15 pounds + 10 pounds per inch--how about a 7 foot+ 235 pound athletic two way skill monster

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 5:32 PM]

He failed to stand out on a very bad team, also he thought very high of himself by not working out for several teams.He might be good but the guy that was selected is further along.
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By the way this is a MOOT point, I would have like Mayo as our pick so that didn't happen so I moved on
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6/29/2008  8:55 PM
Briggs, forget this kid is in the euroleague. How many guys in this draft forget their size have shown his level of offensive skill and awareness. Just watching a lot of his clips, this kid has a load of offensive skill and his IQ seems to be through the roof. He seems to have a great court awareness. The guys I have seen in this draft with that type of offensive skill were going 1-3, and honestly outside of derrick rose being a stud athlete, he doesn't posess half the offensive skill that gallinari has.... And I am a huge rose fan, but if rose was not a premier athlete, I wonder how many people would be praising his skill level..... Because on a skill level, rose does not have anything on mayo or bayless, he is just a better athlete, an elite one, and that is the only reason he went #1..

With that said, if walsh and co. feel that this kid is going to be a complete offensive player, one in which you can build a system around, then I am on board..
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Posted by tkf:

Briggs, forget this kid is in the euroleague. How many guys in this draft forget their size have shown his level of offensive skill and awareness. Just watching a lot of his clips, this kid has a load of offensive skill and his IQ seems to be through the roof. He seems to have a great court awareness. The guys I have seen in this draft with that type of offensive skill were going 1-3, and honestly outside of derrick rose being a stud athlete, he doesn't posess half the offensive skill that gallinari has.... And I am a huge rose fan, but if rose was not a premier athlete, I wonder how many people would be praising his skill level..... Because on a skill level, rose does not have anything on mayo or bayless, he is just a better athlete, an elite one, and that is the only reason he went #1..

With that said, if walsh and co. feel that this kid is going to be a complete offensive player, one in which you can build a system around, then I am on board..

Well said. Agree with every word.
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6/29/2008  10:30 PM
Gallinari is going to be a fine pick. I am a big fan of Randolph, but he was just as big of a gamble as Gallinari is because of his weight. You can say whatever you want about how he's only 19 years old or whatever, but everyone thought Shawn Bradley was going to gain muscle and he never did and theres a bunch of other examples you can look at.

As I've said before, I know nothing about Gallinari so I'm going to wait until I actually see him play some Summer League games before I start commenting on him. Judging by Thorns comments, the Director of Scouting for the NBA's comments, and obviously Walsh's comments, I'm pretty confident the right pick was made.
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6/29/2008  10:33 PM
after every draft, there is an article just like this written by some local paper talking about how great their mid to late round draft pick is.

Although I am worried about Gallo not being able to move laterally, play defense, rebound or jump, I'd be more worried about picking the second coming of louis orr at the six spot.
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Posted by franco12:

after every draft, there is an article just like this written by some local paper talking about how great their mid to late round draft pick is.

Although I am worried about Gallo not being able to move laterally, play defense, rebound or jump, I'd be more worried about picking the second coming of louis orr at the six spot.

Or missing KG2
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