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djsunyc
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6/24/2008  11:02 PM
he basically said there will be alot of guards taken early, so it's not which guard we will select between two or three guys, but which guard will fall to us.
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6/24/2008  11:05 PM
In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine
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6/24/2008  11:09 PM
Theres so much being talked about right now, I can't take it!

I just wish it was Thursday already, I am so excited for this draft, I feel like anything can happen.
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6/24/2008  11:11 PM
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine


If they do take a guard, and Bayless is gone, I think they take Gordon. Walsh seems as though he would have confidence that he can run the point for stretches (Walsh drafted George McCloud becaue he thought he could run the point aswell). They can pair him with Craw and they can take turns running the point. The indiana connection can't be overlooked and his offensive tools will be intriguing to D'Antoni.
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6/24/2008  11:13 PM
it seems they're still trying to move up to get Mayo at 3, but will be content to take Westbrook at 6.
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6/24/2008  11:14 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine


If they do take a guard, and Bayless is gone, I think they take Gordon. Walsh seems as though he would have confidence that he can run the point for stretches (Walsh drafted George McCloud becaue he thought he could run the point aswell). They can pair him with Craw and they can take turns running the point. The indiana connection can't be overlooked and his offensive tools will be intriguing to D'Antoni.

Thank you. Please explain that to Eny, who wants to cane me for taking Gordon in the current Mock Draft.
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6/24/2008  11:16 PM
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon
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6/24/2008  11:19 PM
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.
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6/24/2008  11:19 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine


If they do take a guard, and Bayless is gone, I think they take Gordon. Walsh seems as though he would have confidence that he can run the point for stretches (Walsh drafted George McCloud becaue he thought he could run the point aswell). They can pair him with Craw and they can take turns running the point. The indiana connection can't be overlooked and his offensive tools will be intriguing to D'Antoni.

Thank you. Please explain that to Eny, who wants to cane me for taking Gordon in the current Mock Draft.

nah. that makes little sense. mayo or westbrook. possibly bayless. those are the options.
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6/24/2008  11:24 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well
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6/24/2008  11:35 PM
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well

Westbrook will have to be a PG in the NBA and his height is ok for that. I think he's an average rebounder and passer. He has a decent handle but he's an above average defender. That's the one quality that he has that is NBA ready from day 1.
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6/24/2008  11:40 PM
Isles, this guy is better than Westbrook !!

3- George Hill
Birthday:5/4/1986
NBA Position:Point Guard
Ht:6-2 Wt:181 College Team:IUPUI

Strengths: A very smooth offensive player that is able to score from anywhere on the court relying on his finesse and fundamentals ... Has tremendously efficient shooting percentages: 55% FG, 45 % 3PT and 81% FT ... Fills the stat sheet in all categories with 21.5 points, 6.8 rebounds, 4.3 assists, and 1.8 steals per game ... He's long and lanky which enables him to play bigger than his actual size ... Shows range on his shot out to the NBA 3, has a high and fairly quick release with good balance, and also good elevation ... Has a hefty scoring repertoire; including nice spin moves, a deceivingly quick crossover, midrange game with runners and pull ups, and is able finish contested in traffic ... Shows decent ball handling skills, and for such a good scorer he is very unselfish and a very underrated passer ... His feel for the ball allows him to be in good position for rebounds, as well helping him to be in the right spots on the defensive end ...

Weaknesses: He currently plays more of the SG position, however with his height he is projected as a PG or at least a combo guard at the next level ... He is turnover prone with 2.9 TOs per and can get out of control with his dribble when he is pressured ... While he is a decent athlete, he is nothing spectacular and lacks a first step that may give him trouble playing the lead guard ... His size and quickness are also an issue because he will have a hard time defending either guard position because of these shortcomings ... The fact that IUPUI plays in a small conference may hurt his stock, although he has played fairly well against the better teams on the schedule ...

Notes: During his sophomore season he missed the majority of the year because of a broken foot, and there have been rumors that he is currently playing with screws in that foot, which definitely raises red flags.
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6/24/2008  11:41 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well

Westbrook will have to be a PG in the NBA and his height is ok for that. I think he's an average rebounder and passer. He has a decent handle but he's an above average defender. That's the one quality that he has that is NBA ready from day 1.

i meant to say Gordon
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6/24/2008  11:43 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine


If they do take a guard, and Bayless is gone, I think they take Gordon. Walsh seems as though he would have confidence that he can run the point for stretches (Walsh drafted George McCloud becaue he thought he could run the point aswell). They can pair him with Craw and they can take turns running the point. The indiana connection can't be overlooked and his offensive tools will be intriguing to D'Antoni.

Thank you. Please explain that to Eny, who wants to cane me for taking Gordon in the current Mock Draft.


Not I sign me up for Gordon and call me Slappy!
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6/24/2008  11:47 PM
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well

Westbrook will have to be a PG in the NBA and his height is ok for that. I think he's an average rebounder and passer. He has a decent handle but he's an above average defender. That's the one quality that he has that is NBA ready from day 1.

i meant to say Gordon

In that case, I totally agree with you.
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6/24/2008  11:50 PM
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well

Westbrook will have to be a PG in the NBA and his height is ok for that. I think he's an average rebounder and passer. He has a decent handle but he's an above average defender. That's the one quality that he has that is NBA ready from day 1.

i meant to say Gordon

You could very easily be describing Ben Gordon who I believe is averaging more points (18.6) than anyone else in the entire 2004 draft.
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6/24/2008  11:54 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well

Westbrook will have to be a PG in the NBA and his height is ok for that. I think he's an average rebounder and passer. He has a decent handle but he's an above average defender. That's the one quality that he has that is NBA ready from day 1.

i meant to say Gordon

You could very easily be describing Ben Gordon who I believe is averaging more points (18.6) than anyone else in the entire 2004 draft.

Ben Gordon sucks
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6/24/2008  11:59 PM
18.6 pts 43fg% 41%3ptfg 91%ft 3ast.........How does Ben Gordon suck? He's better and more clucth than any of our guards.
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Posted by Uptown:

18.6 pts 43fg% 41%3ptfg 91%ft 3ast.........How does Ben Gordon suck? He's better and more clucth than any of our guards.

By far. No Knick guard on the roster is good as Ben Gordon, and I'm not even too fond of him. He's just OK to me.
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6/25/2008  8:01 AM
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by blueNorange:
Posted by islesfan:

In order of which ones they would take:

Rose
Mayo
Bayless
Gordon
Westbrook
Augustine

Westbrook >> Gordon

That's not what my list would be, just what I think the Knicks list would be. I wouldn't even have Gordon on my list and I want them to take Westbrook.

thank god i'm not the only one.

to me Westbrook will have a tough time in the NBA because in college the opposing SG's are his height but in the NBA they're 3-4 inches taller and with the way he shoots, he'll have a hard time shooting over defenders.

he also can't rebound, pass, defend, or handle the ball well
Westbrook cant defend? Cant pass? Cant handle? Your joking right? Guy locked down Bayless and Mayo head to head. He's got the wingspan of a guy who's 6'8

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