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6/22/2008  1:41 AM
I didn't book mark it and I am finding the need to link to it. Thanks.
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6/22/2008  2:54 AM
Actually I dont even remember what I posted myself.
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6/22/2008  3:17 AM
Posted by SlimPack:

Actually I dont even remember what I posted myself.

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I would think that Mike D had a pretty good amount of input into what personnel changes went on in Phoenix up until Steve Kerr was hired. (When that happened you could tell that the organization started heading in a different direction). Mike as GM probably couldn't do all the things he wanted though, because it's well known that Suns owner Rob Sarver cares more about not paying a lot of money than he does about winning a championship or producing a competitive team.

Still, I think the roster was for the most part the way Mike wanted it. I remember him saying that seven seconds or less ball is the way he likes to play, and that he believes you can win a championship that way despite popular belief.

http://www.insidehoops.com/dantoni-interview-060106.shtml
Q. On the reputation of his team’s style:

COACH MIKE D'ANTONI: I think we have a confidence that if we are on our A-game that nobody can beat us. I really believe that. You know it’s funny. You can talk about other teams being really good defensively, but when they play against us we score 110 points. Everybody says, ‘well that’s because you’re so good offensively’. Well, that counts. We don’t think any good defensive team can stop us and if they can’t stop us we’re winning. We have that confidence. Now, whether that’s completely true—that’s our thinking. I understand the flip-side of it.

Q. On how championship teams impose their defensive will:

COACH MIKE D'ANTONI: Well, we will impose our will, it’s just on the other side of the floor. There are two ends of the floor and we’re doing it on the other end. We think we can play good enough defense. We can play better defense against you than you can play against us because of our offense—if that makes sense. Now that’s what we think and that’s the mentality that we can win with.

A lot of people say that Mike D is a contrarian. Just because people say you can't win it all that way, to him doesn't mean it's true, and he'll probably try to prove that here.

http://coachtoddsimon.blogspot.com/2008/05/mike-dantoni-great-contrarian.html
“There was the debate that we couldn’t do what we did in Phoenix, it wouldn’t last half a season,” he said. “Then when it lasted half a season, then, ‘You can’t do it all year.’ Then we did it all year. And then, ‘You can’t win in the playoffs.’ Well, we get to the conference finals two years. ‘Well, you can’t win the championship.’ And they’re right so far. It finally got to the point where they’re right.”

Walsh will most likely support him in that, since Walsh strikes me as the kind of GM who supports his coach, and doesn't clash with him. He even let Isiah handle the drafting while he was the coach at Indiana. (that sort of show of support is probably how Walsh convinced Mike to come here over the Bulls in the first place)

He did, however say that he can adjust to some degree to fit the roster (Although, I'm not sure to how great of a degree that will turn out to be), but he always said that he wants to play as close as possible to the way he did in his first 2 years in phoenix.

http://www.greenwichtime.com/knicks/ci_9244811
"I will adapt what I do. Now I like to play fast, move the ball and all that stuff, and we'll try to do that as best as we can," D'Antoni said Tuesday. "Obviously you're going to be a little slower than (the Suns), but at the same time there's no reason why you can't run, be exciting and have good ball movement."

To sum things up, I don't think it's very prudent to expect Mike to change the way he coaches very much when starts to coach here. He likes the style of play he coached in Phoenix, and believes you can even win a championship using it, despite everyone and their grandmother saying otherwise.


Wait a minute. I just realized that this thready originally had nothing to do with D'antoni. I Don't know how it turned into being about him. This thread was supposed to be about a propose draft day trade.


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6/22/2008  9:19 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I love hearing the stuff D'antoni says. He is very confident in the way he sees the game and his ability to coach it. I don't think there will be any flip flopping like Isiah. Its gonna be uptempo and fun.......hopefully D'antoni's confidence rubs off on the team......

Bottom line.......little Nate needs to be the point guard from day one. I love Nate and Craw in the backcourt.....that's the speed and skill with the ball he needs......now he just needs the rest of the roster to catch up.
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6/22/2008  10:47 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

I don't know about you guys, but I love hearing the stuff D'antoni says. He is very confident in the way he sees the game and his ability to coach it. I don't think there will be any flip flopping like Isiah. Its gonna be uptempo and fun.......hopefully D'antoni's confidence rubs off on the team......

Bottom line.......little Nate needs to be the point guard from day one. I love Nate and Craw in the backcourt.....that's the speed and skill with the ball he needs......now he just needs the rest of the roster to catch up.

I have nothing against trying a new approach and I think D'Antoni will be an interesting experiment to watch. But I am not sure about the backcourt you specified, they would have a combined IQ f a cave troll. You need good decision makers with good court vison that pretty much rules out the incumbents dont you think?

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6/22/2008  1:16 PM
Nate and Craw made solid decisions last year. Its a stigma......and in my words....its all bull****.

Its all in the game plan. I don't expect the Knicks to be dumping it down to Curry or Zach. That's when they screwed u cuz Curry would either turn over the ball, score or miss the shot badly. Zach was often given the rocl with nothing happenening except his one on one. I'm confident enough to believe that won't happen again. Pheonix didn't do that. That's not D'antoni's style.

As far as Nate and Craw not being good or smart enough.....what games have you been watching? The best games and wins have been when Nate and Craw were bustin ass. Those games were usually frantic paced games where David Lee also got his **** off as well.

This is why I'm so excited that D'antoni is here. I hope that Nate and Craw can stick around. I just hope Donnie can get in some more skilled athletic guys to make this this take off.
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6/22/2008  8:05 PM
I honestly don't believe there's much of a chance that we'll trade JC or Nate. 1st of all Nate is better than people give him credit for being. Under a coach and system like D'Antoni has, Nate should flourish. Even guys that don't shoot well like Balkman play FAR better when they play fast and aggressive.

It seems to me that too many of us have forgotten what this team looked like when it had our fast units in there. That also came with Isiah as coach and GM, which meant a very conflicting game plan and roster. Now we can expect that the Knicks will look to put lineups on the floor that make sense for the style we want to play.

I kept saying all year that this team was only going to win games if the offense ran efficiently, which it didn't most of the time. D'Antoni's teams didn't have a lot of defensive players, but Amare, Marion and Raja did help to make sure that they played just enough D, to have a high Point Differential, which to me is a very telling stat. The Shaq trade disrupted that defensive ability and they suffered.
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6/23/2008  12:28 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Nate and Craw made solid decisions last year. Its a stigma......and in my words....its all bull****.

Its all in the game plan. I don't expect the Knicks to be dumping it down to Curry or Zach. That's when they screwed u cuz Curry would either turn over the ball, score or miss the shot badly. Zach was often given the rocl with nothing happenening except his one on one. I'm confident enough to believe that won't happen again. Pheonix didn't do that. That's not D'antoni's style.

As far as Nate and Craw not being good or smart enough.....what games have you been watching? The best games and wins have been when Nate and Craw were bustin ass. Those games were usually frantic paced games where David Lee also got his **** off as well.

This is why I'm so excited that D'antoni is here. I hope that Nate and Craw can stick around. I just hope Donnie can get in some more skilled athletic guys to make this this take off.

i agree w/u dude... the Knicks have looked their best when Jamal, Nate, D Lee & Balk were running in an uptempo style... that's usually the rotation that brings them back in games... it's encouraging that we now have a head coach who will be able to utilize these guys to their strengths & let their abilities shine... i have no problem w/having a Jamal & Nate backcourt next season if we end up drafting a big or swingman.
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Slimpack please repost links to Mike D's quotes about defense

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