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6/18/2008  12:08 PM
... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]
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I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

That sounds like a sandwhich
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6/18/2008  12:12 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]

I guess I don't get some of the thinking here. Why does Riles need to create a smokescreen when he has the #2? I guess I can see why Minnesota would want to squeeze a little more out of the Knicks to get Love and whatever by selecting Mayo (if they think NY will even take Mayo), but that puts them in a big risk position by giving another team a chance to nab Love.
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6/18/2008  12:14 PM
I could see a NY & Minny trade but I don't think it would be Lee and #6 for just the #3.

If Minny is willing to talk trade with NY with guarantee they won't take Mayo -- that's an indication that they aren't crazy for Mayo.
In my mind that brings the price down for the #3 pick just a bit.

I could see something like -- Lee, Balkman and #6 for the #3 and Corey Brewer.

If I'm the Knicks I don't give up my (2) best assets (Lee and #6) just to move up 3 spots.
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6/18/2008  12:15 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]

I guess I don't get some of the thinking here. Why does Riles need to create a smokescreen when he has the #2? I guess I can see why Minnesota would want to squeeze a little more out of the Knicks to get Love and whatever by selecting Mayo (if they think NY will even take Mayo), but that puts them in a big risk position by giving another team a chance to nab Love.

Riles smokescreen was to not tip his hand to the Bulls about which of the big two he wanted.

Like I said, the only wildcard is Memphis and supposedly they like Lopez, but who knows what they're thinking. after that Gasol trade I don't think anyone can claim to understand Memphis.
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6/18/2008  12:16 PM
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If I'm the Knicks I don't give up my (2) best assets (Lee and #6) just to move up 3 spots.

I wouldn't either, but if Donnie is feeling cap conscious - moving Lee now saves a ton of money.
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6/18/2008  12:17 PM
this is provided the sonics and memphis do not take mayo or love.
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6/18/2008  12:18 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

this is provided the sonics and memphis do not take mayo or love.

wolves would take mayo at 3. sonics take bayless at 4. the question is will memphis take love.

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6/18/2008  12:18 PM
I posted this article in the Knicks draft thread...

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53056/20080618/minnesota_impressed_with_kevin_love/

Minnesota impressed with Kevin Love



The Timberwolves were very impressed with UCLA's Kevin Love after he worked out for the team on Tuesday, according to The Pioneer Press.

He worked out for the team for roughly ninety minutes, performing well enough that the team is reportedly considering taking him with the third overall pick.

"I thought he was very good," assistant general manager Fred Hoiberg said. "He's just such a smart player who's got a high basketball IQ. He's a tremendous passer, and he can space the court with his shooting. I thought he was very impressive."

Love believes that he will fall no further than the sixth overall selection in next Thursday's draft.

"I think top six," he said. "I'm pretty confident that I will go in the top six."


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All we can do is hope that they select Love #3 and HOPEFULLY that leads to Mayo falling to us. We'll see...
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6/18/2008  12:19 PM
Your scenario sounds plausible as well Crzy..
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6/18/2008  12:21 PM

Posted by martin:
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]

I guess I don't get some of the thinking here. Why does Riles need to create a smokescreen when he has the #2? I guess I can see why Minnesota would want to squeeze a little more out of the Knicks to get Love and whatever by selecting Mayo (if they think NY will even take Mayo), but that puts them in a big risk position by giving another team a chance to nab Love.

I agree, I dont thinnk Love gets past Memphis. The Bulls jumping to 1 and knocking us down one has put us just on the outskirts of the real meat of the lotto. After 5, there are some question marks. Best case scenerio would be for us to move Lee and 6 and absorb a contract (Jaric?, Walker?) along with the 3. We have to make it worth thier while.
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6/18/2008  12:22 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by martin:
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]

I guess I don't get some of the thinking here. Why does Riles need to create a smokescreen when he has the #2? I guess I can see why Minnesota would want to squeeze a little more out of the Knicks to get Love and whatever by selecting Mayo (if they think NY will even take Mayo), but that puts them in a big risk position by giving another team a chance to nab Love.

Riles smokescreen was to not tip his hand to the Bulls about which of the big two he wanted.

Like I said, the only wildcard is Memphis and supposedly they like Lopez, but who knows what they're thinking. after that Gasol trade I don't think anyone can claim to understand Memphis.

why would anything riley says effect the bulls? the bulls have the #1 pick, they control their own fate. if anything, he's trying to guage the market for the #2 pick and see if a team that wants mayo will trade up for it.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-18-2008 12:23 PM]
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6/18/2008  12:23 PM
If the Knicks want to get rid of Zach Randolph they better have a plan to replace him. David Lee might be better coming off the bench and Curry --while he should be afforded every posible chance to succeeed---coming off knee surgery for a plyer that big there will be ????

unless the plan is to draft augustine and start filling up the roster with under 6 foot players.
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6/18/2008  12:23 PM
Memphis is very very high on Love though. I don't see Love passing Memphis at 5.

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6/18/2008  12:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

why would anything riley says effect the bulls? the bulls have the #1 pick, they control their own fate. if anything, he's trying to guage the market for the #2 pick and see if a team that wants mayo will trade up for it.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-18-2008 12:23 PM]



riles just likes screwing with people and not having anyone know his plans. remember, no one thought he was gonna take Wade on draft night.

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6/18/2008  12:26 PM
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Memphis is very very high on Love though. I don't see Love passing Memphis at 5.

yeah, that's the big question.
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6/18/2008  12:26 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]
Not sure I would do that... open to it yes. It comes down to how much waltoni values Mayo. Lee is a lot of give up for him, especially when you consider we are moving to an uptempo system. How about we just keep Love, and sent Lee to the Nets then draft Westbrook? Love is a banger with an exceptional BB IQ and is regarded as one of the best passing bigs in years. Doesnt that seem like a good fit for us?

If I offered you guys two scenarios and you had to pick one what would you go with?
1) draft Love and trade Lee for an extra pick to draft Westbrook
2) draft Mayo and use Lee to move up to get him

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6/18/2008  12:35 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by crzymdups:

... not sure how I feel about that. I think Mayo is being overrated by a lot. And his weird attitude freaks me out already.

But, there are reports that Riley liking Mayo was merely a smokescreen - he really wants Beasley. Reports are Minnesota loves Love. Obviously the Knicks love Mayo. Reports that Minnesota is open to trading the pick. The only real borderline wildcard that needs to happen is Memphis selecting Lopez over Love - and reports are they like Lopez.

I'm thinking Lee + Love for Mayo is going to happen on draft night.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 12:08 PM]
Not sure I would do that... open to it yes. It comes down to how much waltoni values Mayo. Lee is a lot of give up for him, especially when you consider we are moving to an uptempo system. How about we just keep Love, and sent Lee to the Nets then draft Westbrook? Love is a banger with an exceptional BB IQ and is regarded as one of the best passing bigs in years. Doesnt that seem like a good fit for us?

If I offered you guys two scenarios and you had to pick one what would you go with?
1) draft Love and trade Lee for an extra pick to draft Westbrook
2) draft Mayo and use Lee to move up to get him


Option 1 is pretty enticing, but I think Mayo has a chance to be an all time player in this league and that is hard to pass up.
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6/18/2008  12:37 PM
i think we should change his name to crzymdgetridofallwhiteplayersups...
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6/18/2008  12:37 PM
Nonsense.

If Minnesota wants Love they better take him @ 3. Memphis is taking that dude if he's there. Memphis is taking Mayo there if he falls.

Playing games with the draft is no fun. I hope teams seriously pick who they feel their teams can use. If another team hollers with a trade after the fact fine.
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It seems more and more like Wolves will OJ Mayo, we'll take Love and swap...

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