Kevin Love
DJ Augustin
Eric Gorden
Alexander
I think all four of these guys will have better careers than both Westbrook and AR. I would trade down or package the pick to get rid of Zach.

I like Arthur also better than Randolph. Briggs I think you trade up or trade down. Go get Love, Bayless, or Mayo, or move down and take Westbrook with the 10th or 11th. I think the ideal move would be trade with the Nets and take Westbrook and Courtney Lee or Speight or even the stiff from Nevada.

Draftnet has Randolph going to the Knicks at 6 and Westbrook going at 8. I find them to be very accurate on their mocks. However they change them about every three days.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by King1:

If EG is going to shoot 42% then what is a guy that shot 46% in college going to shoot around the same thing?

Difference is Randolph is 6-10 and can do many more things. How many block shots did EG have in any one game? Rebounds? EG likes hanging out at 3 point line or bulldozing way to basket--I would not care if we took EG but he would have to change his game to his strengths. Also I want to win a championship some day before I die and Im willing to take on a risk reward scenario. Knicks NEVER go for it when it counts.

You are so full of crap.

Yesterday Gordon is one of those special players that the Knicks could get at 6. Today he's going to get exposed real fast in the NBA.

Yesterday you're completely opposed to the Knicks taking on a risk/reward scenario. Today you're willing to take on a risk reward scenario.

You just throw as much crap out there as possible and hope that it sticks. Just like your supposed draft selections in the past. Throw a bunch of names out there with high ceilings and if they hit it big, you remind us years later about how you picked them. Such BS.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by King1:

If EG is going to shoot 42% then what is a guy that shot 46% in college going to shoot around the same thing?

Difference is Randolph is 6-10 and can do many more things. How many block shots did EG have in any one game? Rebounds? EG likes hanging out at 3 point line or bulldozing way to basket--I would not care if we took EG but he would have to change his game to his strengths. Also I want to win a championship some day before I die and Im willing to take on a risk reward scenario. Knicks NEVER go for it when it counts.

You are so full of crap.

Yesterday Gordon is one of those special players that the Knicks could get at 6. Today he's going to get exposed real fast in the NBA.

Yesterday you're completely opposed to the Knicks taking on a risk/reward scenario. Today you're willing to take on a risk reward scenario.

You just throw as much crap out there as possible and hope that it sticks. Just like your supposed draft selections in the past. Throw a bunch of names out there with high ceilings and if they hit it big, you remind us years later about how you picked them. Such BS.

Briggs has been pretty consistent - he wants Randolph, Westbrook or McGee at 6. He doesn't want to trade down.

How is it any more consistent for people killing the team for not tanking early enough to then say it's no big deal to move down ten spots in the draft?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by King1:

If EG is going to shoot 42% then what is a guy that shot 46% in college going to shoot around the same thing?

Difference is Randolph is 6-10 and can do many more things. How many block shots did EG have in any one game? Rebounds? EG likes hanging out at 3 point line or bulldozing way to basket--I would not care if we took EG but he would have to change his game to his strengths. Also I want to win a championship some day before I die and Im willing to take on a risk reward scenario. Knicks NEVER go for it when it counts.

You are so full of crap.

Yesterday Gordon is one of those special players that the Knicks could get at 6. Today he's going to get exposed real fast in the NBA.

Yesterday you're completely opposed to the Knicks taking on a risk/reward scenario. Today you're willing to take on a risk reward scenario.

You just throw as much crap out there as possible and hope that it sticks. Just like your supposed draft selections in the past. Throw a bunch of names out there with high ceilings and if they hit it big, you remind us years later about how you picked them. Such BS.

Briggs has been pretty consistent - he wants Randolph, Westbrook or McGee at 6. He doesn't want to trade down.

How is it any more consistent for people killing the team for not tanking early enough to then say it's no big deal to move down ten spots in the draft?

We all have our own opinions who we should draft and then we have to be realistic since we are not drafting for the Knicks about players who we could be OK with. I can be OK with Eric Gordon but he is NOT my personal pick but is a definite preference to trading down. Trading down is not a plan in my book--there is no cognitive plan with it because it does not guarantee anything other than we pick out of a much smaller pool of talent and give up a huge potential building block.

Since we are not drafting a traditional C Mcgee is not a consideration here but if the Suns get him--watch his development. Love has moved up in my book and I think we can come out of the draft with either Randolph Love or Mayo--the numbers are going to play out this way. All of the guards Westbrook Bayless and Gordon take a step back here against the two bigs and Mayo.

I know some people want to do everything to get rid of some players here but the most important thing is replacing the positions 1-1 if we get rid of zacha nd curry who exactly are playing those positions? david Lee is a good energy player but cant defend and while he scores 10 his opposite scores 20.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by King1:

If EG is going to shoot 42% then what is a guy that shot 46% in college going to shoot around the same thing?

Difference is Randolph is 6-10 and can do many more things. How many block shots did EG have in any one game? Rebounds? EG likes hanging out at 3 point line or bulldozing way to basket--I would not care if we took EG but he would have to change his game to his strengths. Also I want to win a championship some day before I die and Im willing to take on a risk reward scenario. Knicks NEVER go for it when it counts.

You are so full of crap.

Yesterday Gordon is one of those special players that the Knicks could get at 6. Today he's going to get exposed real fast in the NBA.

Yesterday you're completely opposed to the Knicks taking on a risk/reward scenario. Today you're willing to take on a risk reward scenario.

You just throw as much crap out there as possible and hope that it sticks. Just like your supposed draft selections in the past. Throw a bunch of names out there with high ceilings and if they hit it big, you remind us years later about how you picked them. Such BS.

Briggs has been pretty consistent - he wants Randolph, Westbrook or McGee at 6. He doesn't want to trade down.

How is it any more consistent for people killing the team for not tanking early enough to then say it's no big deal to move down ten spots in the draft?

No he hasn't http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=27168

I explained the tanking issue to you already and it's real simple. There are at best 3 Franchise players in this draft which means we needed to be in the Top 3. To get a Top 3 pick we needed to tank as soon as Jan 08" hit. Well we started a little late and got bit in the arse for it. Now we have a Top 6 pick which doesn't quite help we have to hope for stupidity to take place in this draft to get real fortunate, which of course anything is possible. To trade down was under the contingency the Prime Suspects are off the board...Beasley, Mayo, Rose. With that being said the rest of the talent 6-16 possibly even 20 if you take upside into consideration there won't be great gaps in talent so why not trade down if we can unload salary.