[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Question to all stay at 6 b try to move up or move down to 16 to help get rid of randolph
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/10/2008  4:44 PM
I would probably see if I could move up within reason. Seattle at 4 could be swayed by a $$$ proposition with what is going on there.
Staying at 6 is great
Moving down to 16 to get rid of randolph is a 0/100 option we need good players and we must be aggresive in that search.
RIP Crushalot😞
AUTOADVERT
Uptown
Posts: 31378
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 4/1/2008
Member: #1883
6/10/2008  4:51 PM
I'm more interested in trying to move up and securing a better position and player. Minny, Seattle and Memphis may all be apt to trade down for the right price. If Minny really wants Lopez, they can definitely gte him at 6.

Moving out of 6 to 16 isn't a good option IMO......
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
6/10/2008  5:03 PM
You needed to start a new thread for this? Couldn't you have at least reminded us that Zach was an 18 year old 30-20 center?
joec32033
Posts: 30632
Alba Posts: 37
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #583
USA
6/10/2008  5:05 PM
An offer of Malik, Balkman, $3 mil and the #6 for Walker and the #3 would be a great deal.
~You can't run from who you are.~
K22
Posts: 25143
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/18/2006
Member: #1182
USA
6/10/2008  5:13 PM
Posted by joec32033:

An offer of Malik, Balkman, $3 mil and the #6 for Walker and the #3 would be a great deal.

Antoine Walker? I'd rather not want to see Chubby Chucker in a NYK jersey.
-- the preceding post was brought to you by the letter K and the number 22.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
6/10/2008  5:14 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

You needed to start a new thread for this? Couldn't you have at least reminded us that Zach was an 18 year old 30-20 center?

now that was funny.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
6/10/2008  5:15 PM
i would be fine w/moving up to #3 to nab either Mayo or Beasley, or using the pick to trade down for either an extra pick or to unload Zach's albatross.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
6/10/2008  5:17 PM
I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/10/2008  5:24 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?


Every year usually
RIP Crushalot😞
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
6/10/2008  5:28 PM
I don't think there is anyway that you move down to dump Zach. You cannot put up numbers like he does if you are not tremendously talented. Someone will take on his contract without sacrificing the pick. The Knicks won 23 games last year. They need to start the rebuilding process from a realistic place. Getting rid of 20 and 10 and the 6 pick so that you might have the opportunity to sign a big time player in two years makes no sense.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
6/10/2008  5:28 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?


Every year usually

Woops sorry about that. I meant high lotto picks, not just picks overall since teams like the Suns have sold their picks annually.

When has a team sold a lotto pick?
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/10/2008  5:31 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by nyk4ever:

I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?

nyk4ever swapping positions in the lottery or elsewhere happen all the time. Marbury was a swap. 6-4 is not a big move.

Lets say we wanted Love and Seattle wanted Bayless. Seattle knows that Memphis is not taking Bayless. We give them 3mm+ the 6 position saves them an additional 1.7mm over 3 years for the same player.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-10-2008 5:34 PM]
RIP Crushalot😞
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
6/10/2008  5:35 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?


Every year usually

Woops sorry about that. I meant high lotto picks, not just picks overall since teams like the Suns have sold their picks annually.

When has a team sold a lotto pick?
Bulls/Port w/ Tyrus and Aldridge last year no?

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
6/10/2008  5:37 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

I don't think there is anyway that you move down to dump Zach. You cannot put up numbers like he does if you are not tremendously talented. Someone will take on his contract without sacrificing the pick. The Knicks won 23 games last year. They need to start the rebuilding process from a realistic place. Getting rid of 20 and 10 and the 6 pick so that you might have the opportunity to sign a big time player in two years makes no sense.

u seem very sure of this... can you name a few probables that will give us cap space in a Zach trade & not demand any other assets in return?

btw, Zach was 17 & 10 for us last year & for his career is a 16 & 8 player, so can we please stop it w/the '20 & 10' talk for God's sakes?
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
6/10/2008  5:40 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'd gladly move up to the 3. Whats the price though? I really dont think money is going to get that done Briggs, when in the history of the NBA has a team swapped picks based on money?


Every year usually

Woops sorry about that. I meant high lotto picks, not just picks overall since teams like the Suns have sold their picks annually.

When has a team sold a lotto pick?

Portland traded with Chicago for the pick we sent for EC

http://nbadraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=557325

And for what?

I could see Seattle trading their pick for ours & $3MM

And I think 6 & Nate would be worth it to get Mayo or possibly Beasley.

[Edited by - franco12 on 06-10-2008 5:40 PM]
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
6/10/2008  5:43 PM
I guess I'm confused. I thought Briggs meant just straight-out BUY a lotto pick, not swap or anything, just one team sells their lotto pick to another. I don't think thats what he meant though. Sorry for the confusion.

A swap from 3-6 is definitely possible though, which is what I think Briggs was getting at...
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/10/2008  5:46 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I guess I'm confused. I thought Briggs meant just straight-out BUY a lotto pick, not swap or anything, just one team sells their lotto pick to another. I don't think thats what he meant though. Sorry for the confusion.

A swap from 3-6 is definitely possible though, which is what I think Briggs was getting at...

thats what i said swap 6 for 4
RIP Crushalot😞
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
6/10/2008  5:49 PM
Posted by joec32033:

An offer of Malik, Balkman, $3 mil and the #6 for Walker and the #3 would be a great deal.

where do i sign up for this?
¿ △ ?
joec32033
Posts: 30632
Alba Posts: 37
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #583
USA
6/10/2008  5:53 PM
Posted by K22:
Posted by joec32033:

An offer of Malik, Balkman, $3 mil and the #6 for Walker and the #3 would be a great deal.

Antoine Walker? I'd rather not want to see Chubby Chucker in a NYK jersey.

Walker is a FA in a year or 2. I wouldn't keep him. Or he'd be like 9th or 10th man if that.
~You can't run from who you are.~
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/10/2008  6:00 PM
Right now Id like the Knicks to bring in Kevin Love. If he really improved this much this fast than he has to be a priority target.
RIP Crushalot😞
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Question to all stay at 6 b try to move up or move down to 16 to help get rid of randolph
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy