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BRIGGS
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6/5/2008  2:56 PM
Take the best player available at pick 6
Offer David Lee 6 years 48mm if he accepts great if not trade him for a draft pick
Try to look for reasonable deals to move Zach and Curry. If a reasonable deal presents itself then execute it.
I don't want to be in the panic business anymore--the team has panic traded itself into oblivion. If Philly wants Zach then give me a reasonable deal and I will deal with you.

If not let Dantoni do what he is VERY good at and why we are paying him--get the players to bring out the best in themselves--this has a greta way of increasing a players value or we may find the player might just fit the system

When we had cap space in 1994 we had an AWESOME core that FA enhanced. A plan to strip the team to a rebuilding stage just to get to FA is not the brightest.
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6/5/2008  3:02 PM


Best part of the Lee scenario (and I have mentioned this before) is you can frontload that contract for all of you worried about having cap space for Lebron. In six years Lee's salary would go: 13,13,6,6,5,5 which would also make him a value trading chip later in his contract if so needed
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6/5/2008  3:04 PM
What's wrong with it is that you're trapped in mediocrity. You've got decent players but nothing special and mid lottery picks. I know 2010/11 feels a long way away but you've gotta be more patient.
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6/5/2008  3:07 PM
not bad, because you don't make panic moves like offering the #6 pick to dump zach..time to start dealing from a position of sterngth, not one of desperation...
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6/5/2008  3:33 PM
Unless CLE, PHI or whoever blows us away with an expring contract for Zach then I say keep ZBo and deal with it. I think him running up and down the court and shooting within 7 seconds is appealing to a checker like him. Get his trade value up and trade him high at the trading deadline.
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6/5/2008  3:36 PM
I am happy with doing nothing and just doing the following...

Tell Dinglebury to go stay away from the club.

Pick a player to showcase. ZBo or Curry and start them.

Frontline - Zeddy1, DLee, The Mayor
Backcourt - OJ Mayo (if we are lucky) and Crawford or Jamal and Nate

Bench - Balkman, Zeddy2, Pick if not Mayo, JJSkinny

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6/5/2008  5:34 PM
Does showcasing players ever work?
BRIGGS
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6/5/2008  5:37 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Does showcasing players ever work?

Like I said show me your roster of players youd like to present to any top tier FA after you trade everyone off--if you cant come up with a roster than you have no idea what you were saying in the first place.
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6/5/2008  5:42 PM
i think we should trade David Lee to MEM for the #5 since they were so desperate to trade us their #4 pick last year for him according to you.
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6/5/2008  5:50 PM
Posted by fishmike:



Best part of the Lee scenario (and I have mentioned this before) is you can frontload that contract for all of you worried about having cap space for Lebron. In six years Lee's salary would go: 13,13,6,6,5,5 which would also make him a value trading chip later in his contract if so needed

You can't do that to a contract..... limits to how much the increases/decreases are year to year.
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6/5/2008  5:57 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Does showcasing players ever work?

Like I said show me your roster of players youd like to present to any top tier FA after you trade everyone off--if you cant come up with a roster than you have no idea what you were saying in the first place.
It's impossible to know who's gonna be here, how we'll be drafting, what FAs with the MLE we'll sign or whether the FA is willing to be part of rebuilding vs. needs a ready made team. If you need a more concrete answer, then I'll say "the best players we can draft plus the best players we can sign with the MLE for deals expiring by 2011"
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6/5/2008  5:57 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Does showcasing players ever work?

Like I said show me your roster of players youd like to present to any top tier FA after you trade everyone off--if you cant come up with a roster than you have no idea what you were saying in the first place.
And that's your answer to my question??? It doesn't follow logically. Were you just randomly quoting my question?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 06-05-2008 5:57 PM]
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6/5/2008  6:03 PM
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6/5/2008  6:04 PM
^^^ OOps wrong thread
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6/5/2008  6:50 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Does showcasing players ever work?

It worked against us when Jalen Rose torched us and then we traded for him a month later
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6/5/2008  9:01 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Take the best player available at pick 6
Offer David Lee 6 years 48mm if he accepts great if not trade him for a draft pick
Try to look for reasonable deals to move Zach and Curry. If a reasonable deal presents itself then execute it.
I don't want to be in the panic business anymore--the team has panic traded itself into oblivion. If Philly wants Zach then give me a reasonable deal and I will deal with you.

If not let Dantoni do what he is VERY good at and why we are paying him--get the players to bring out the best in themselves--this has a greta way of increasing a players value or we may find the player might just fit the system

When we had cap space in 1994 we had an AWESOME core that FA enhanced. A plan to strip the team to a rebuilding stage just to get to FA is not the brightest.

Trading the 6 pick to shed salary is OBSERD. D'antoni will raise the value of a guy like Randolph enough to get a decent trade for him.
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6/5/2008  9:19 PM
I hope the Knicks don't trade the pick to dump salary. I think if they could get NJ's two picks that it would be worth it but I don't think NJ is looking to add young players. If they do trade the pick to dump cap then I again will be questioning Walsh and his judgement. I don't think that a team that wins 23 games can afford to give up a lottery pick in a good draft.
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6/6/2008  8:17 AM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by fishmike:


Best part of the Lee scenario (and I have mentioned this before) is you can frontload that contract for all of you worried about having cap space for Lebron. In six years Lee's salary would go: 13,13,6,6,5,5 which would also make him a value trading chip later in his contract if so needed

You can't do that to a contract..... limits to how much the increases/decreases are year to year.
Camby's contract started at 13mm and ends at 7.6mm

Maybe not as much as I say but you can frontload it quite significantly

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6/6/2008  8:20 AM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Does showcasing players ever work?

It worked against us when Jalen Rose torched us and then we traded for him a month later

Great; now all we have to do is wait for another team to hire Isiah as GM and then we can showcase players to him!
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