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Ira
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6/5/2008  5:53 AM
I'm starting this thread not because Lawson is someone who should be considered with our pick at #6, but because he hasn't been mentioned much on this board and because he's a floor general type of point guard who would do well in an offense similar to what D'Antoni ran in Phoenix. Here are some of Draft Express's comments on his skills
43% of Lawson’s offense comes in transition, according to Synergy Sports Technology’s quantified player reports. That’s an incredibly high number—for comparison, Derrick Rose stands at 23.3%, DJ Augustin at 17.8%, Eric Gordon at 21.9%, O.J. Mayo at 18.3%, Jerryd Bayless at 16.8%, and Darren Collison is at 25.3%.

Lawson not only pushes the ball incredibly well after his team makes a stop, he also has an uncanny ability to get his team into transition after a made basket, which is extremely difficult. He does more than just get out into the open floor, though, he also finishes extremely well at the hoop (despite his lack of size), thanks to his terrific strength and toughness, and just how open he is by the time he gets there. Synergy’s quantified reports tell us that he converts on 72% of the shots he takes at the rim, which again is better than all the other point guards we have in our first round. Rose converts on 52.3%, Augustin 48%, Gordon 61%, Mayo 43%, Bayless 65%, and Collison 55%. More than just a scorer, though, Lawson also has outstanding court vision to find the open man, and is quite unselfish doing so.

In the half-court, Lawson is getting better, but still isn’t quite as good as you might hope. His 3-point shot is still not a consistent enough weapon, although he can hit shots from behind the arc with his feet set if he has time to get it off, due to his slow, low release point. He is pretty streaking doing so, though, and does not have much of a mid-range game to compensate for that either. If Lawson can’t get to the basket (as lethal a weapon as his right to left crossover is), his team’s offense tends to bog down--as he isn’t the most natural improviser you’ll find at the collegiate level. He’ll sometimes get out of control and take excessive chances with the ball, overpenetrating or dishing out risky passes. More than any other point guard in this draft possibly, Lawson is a guy that needs to be drafted into the right offensive system, with a coach that is fully committed to taking advantage of his strengths.

Lawson's the kind of player we should consider if we get an extra pick in the middle of the first round or if we trade down to that area.
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6/5/2008  9:20 AM
he is awfully small, and while I am a believed in using as many picks as possible to fill the underside of our roster w/ a good pipeline do we have space for two guys under 6'0?

Do you want to see Nate play under Mike D? Or would you rather pull the plug on him? I may post that question on anothe thread...
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6/5/2008  9:25 AM
The odd thing about Lawson is that he doesn't seem to have hops. Strange considering his wheels. Normally you'd think vertical jumps & speed are generally in the same package. But when you watch him play, he doesn't dare try to finish if there's any defender around the rim.
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6/5/2008  3:53 PM
it all depends on who u pick w/the first pick... we don't need any more G's if we're taking a Mayo/Bayless/Gordon/Westbrooke/etc. w/the 1st pick.
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6/5/2008  5:02 PM
Posted by TMS:

it all depends on who u pick w/the first pick... we don't need any more G's if we're taking a Mayo/Bayless/Gordon/Westbrooke/etc. w/the 1st pick.

Nice point. But Marbury is here for a year at most. If we get Bayless or Westbrook, we've got a potential starting pg. They aren't skilled enough at passing to start at the point yet, but they're skilled enough to work their way to that level. If we draft Mayo or Gordon, I don't think they'll ever reach that level.
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6/5/2008  5:16 PM
i think if anything u can make a trade of Nate for a pick to take a more pure PG if you like & keep Jamal to either be your starting SG or be the 6th man if the lottery pick selection turns out to be someone like Mayo or Gordon & depending how that kid develops during his rookie season.
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6/5/2008  5:22 PM
I think nate is/will be better than lawson. i'd like to see if he can improve his passing under d'antoni...

i'm not too impressed with lawson but think he could be a decent backup guard for a team (not us, like fish said it will be real tough to play 2 under 6'0 guards, especially when neither of them are great players). maybe if we can buy a 2nd round pick i'd look at him, but i'd be more interested in a guy like jefferson out of USC, anyone that can shoot and get up and down the floor
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6/5/2008  5:25 PM
Lawson was someone that coming into the season was considered a potential lotto pick. But he didn't have a particularly good season and fell. Moreover, he's not as good as Raymond Felton was for UNC, who has been a bit of a disappointment in the NBA. I think that successful college coaches tend to look for the same types of players, so I am definitely against Lawson at six.
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6/5/2008  5:35 PM
Nate is a loser. Lawson is a winner. Trade Nate for a pick in the mid 20's and take Lawson.
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6/5/2008  5:43 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Nate is a loser. Lawson is a winner. Trade Nate for a pick in the mid 20's and take Lawson.

Rumor has it that Lawson has a guarantee from Denver at #20.
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6/5/2008  7:28 PM
PG's from UNC dont play well in the NBA
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6/5/2008  9:36 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:

PG's from UNC dont play well in the NBA

Kenny Smith would slap fire outta you for saying that, lol.
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6/6/2008  5:39 PM
Was K.Smith a PG?? It doesnt matter...I can take him
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6/6/2008  8:47 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by islesfan:

Nate is a loser. Lawson is a winner. Trade Nate for a pick in the mid 20's and take Lawson.

Rumor has it that Lawson has a guarantee from Denver at #20.


Let's hope so for his sake
UNC's Lawson charged with driving after drinking

From Staff Reports

CHAPEL HILL - North Carolina point guard Ty Lawson was arrested today and charged with driving after consuming alcohol, violating a local noise ordinance and driving with a revoked license.

A Chapel Hill police officer arrested Lawson, 20, at 2:33 a.m. on North Columbia St., in the heart of town. The officer stopped Lawson in a 2005 four-door Chevrolet with Maryland plates after hearing loud music coming from the car, said police Capt. Chris Blue.

The officer suspected that Lawson had been drinking, conducted a field sobriety test and found probable cause to charge him, Blue said.

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1098535.html


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6/6/2008  8:51 PM
Lawson will be a terrible pro and his work habits are very poor. He will be a waste of a pick in the first round.
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