Michael Beasley measured at 6-7 without shoes, and 6-8 ¼ with. His wingspan in 7-0 ¼ and his standing reach is 8-11. He did fairly well in the combine, lifting the 185 bar 19 times, jumping 35 inches on the max vert, but measuring a slightly high body fat at 7.7%

Derrick Rose came out a bit shorter than advertised, at just 6-1 ½ without shoes 6-2 ½ in. He has a 6-8 wingspan, a 40 inch vertical and ran the 3/4 court sprint very fast at 3.05.

Brook Lopez is a legit 7-footer in shoes. He also has a phenomenal 7-5 ½ wingspan and an outrageous 9-5 standing reach. He did not do very well at all in the combine though, jumping just 30 inches in the max vert and coming dead last in the lane agility drill at 12.77.

Jerryd Bayless is a legit 6-3 in shoes, and as expected has a very poor wingspan at 6-3 ½. He did well in the combine, though, jumping 38 inches, lifting the 185 bar 10 times, running 11.26 in the lane agility drills, and sprinting ¾ court in 3.07 seconds.

Kevin Love measured out reasonably well—6-9 ½ in shoes (6-7 ¾ without), with a 6-11 ¼ wingspan and an 8-10 standing reach. His body fat is still very high at 12.9%, but in the combine he jumped 35 inches, lifted the 185 bar 18 times, and ran very well (11.17, 3.22)

O.J. Mayo is 6-3 ¼ without shoes, 6-4 ½ with, with a 6-6 wingspan and 8-3 standing reach. He had the second best vertical leap at 41 inches and ran 11.04 and 3.14.

Eric Gordon is 6-3 ¼ in shoes, with a terrific 6-9 wingspan. He jumped 40 inches, lifted the bar 15 times, and ran 10.81 and 3.01. He plays like a great athlete, and tested out well too.

Anthony Randolph is 6-10 ¼ in shoes, with a freakish 7-3 wingspan and 9-1 standing reach. He is skinny as expected at 4.7% body fat, jumped 35 inches on the max vert, and ran just OK at 11.86 and 3.26.

DeAndre Jordan came in an inch short at 6-11, but has an outrageous 7-6 wingspan and 9-5 ½ standing reach that more than compensates. He jumped poorly at 30.5 inches, lifted the bar 8 times, and ran the drills in 12.3 and 3.27 seconds.

The biggest wingspan: John Riek at 7-8 ¾. His standing reach was N/A. Probably too long to believe. We’re told its 9-10, and certainly believe that.
Biggest standing reach: JaVale McGee- 9-6 ½.

Lightest Player: Mike Taylor- 166 pounds, followed by D.J. Augustin at 171.
Heaviest Player: Kentrell Gransberry- 290 pounds
Lowest Body Fat: Lester Hudson- 3.4%
Highest Body Fat: Kentrell Gransberry -17.4% body fat
Best no-step vertical: Patrick Ewing- 35 inches
Best Max-Step Vertical: O.J. Mayo- 42 inches (tied with Ewing)
Bench Press: Josh Duncan 26 reps
Fastest Lane Agility: Sonny Weems- 10.58 seconds
Fastest ¾ Court Sprint: Sonny Weems- 2.96, (Joe Alexander 2.99)

Others:

Joey Dorsey measured in at only 6’6.25 without shoes, and 6’7.25 with shoes, but had a +7.5 wingspan and managed a very respectable 19 reps off 185 on the bench.

DeVon Hardin stands 6’10.75 in shoes with a 7’3 wingspan, he had 20 reps on the bench and recorded a 32” max vertical leap.
Josh Duncan put up 26 reps of 185 on the bench, recorded a 32” max vertical leap, is 6’8 without shoes, and recorded a body far percentage of only 5.4%.

Patrick Ewing Jr. recorded the highest max vertical leap on the day recording 42”, but struggled on the bench, finishing with only 2 reps. His is 9.4% body fat was surprising for a player of his build as well. At only 6’6 without shoes, he’s between positions with his measurables and game very much in conflict.

Richard Hendrix tested out very well. He is a hair under 6-9 in shoes, has a 7-3 wingspan, a 9-0 standing reach, and ran a 10.62 and 3.27. He jumped just 28 inches in the max vert.

Link: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Partial-Measurements-and-Combine-Results-Released-2911/

Chart:
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LOL Rose is short and let draftexpress tell us the other day Rose just is such the athlete vs Mayo and other guards.

LOL Anthony Randolph appears to be an Ogor

LOL yet a little despressing DeAndre Jordan Ditto

Dorsey and Love are Oxen

They said Mayo is nowhere near Rose athletically but he jumps higher than him and for the most part is just as fast

Gordon is supposed to be this pudgy baby fat thickems, yet he jumps just as high as Rose, is faster, wider wingspan, and going by the fact they listed he reps 185lbs 15 times suggest he's stronger than the other guard because their was no mention of what Rose or Mayo could do. Bayless repped the bar 10 times not bad.

Overall the rep on bars doesn't translate to if a player will fail or not but these guys suck. I'm 145 pounds 3meals in me standing out in the rain soaking wet and I can rep 185 right now 12 times possibly 15 if I had to.

Let's get this straight right now Mayo and Gordon will have better pro careers than Rose you can take that to the bank.


Patrick Ewing Jr. is a freak athlete.


The other week we discussed who would be a good player to pick in the late second round J.R. Giddens got some mentions but I personally brought up Sonny Weems and as we can see from this write the dude is a Gazelle.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-03-2008 12:38 PM]

God I can't wait for Derrick Rose to shut you up.

I don't see Rose failing either.

I wonder how high these combine results shoot Gordon?

Bayless, Mayo and Gordon are all very close in many categories, in some ways it's just going to come down to a teams preference.

Posted by BRIGGS:

The biggest loser in the physical part is Augustin. While you only take some of this into consideration--he was small and he did not measure up athletically to guards who were 3-5 inches taller and was the wekaest/lighest player there. I can see why he struugled against chalmers and rose and there is no chance that he should be our pick

Yep... I backed him this season but at tournament time he really, really struggled. Rsoe is going to be a very good player (at least) and Chalmers likely maxes out as a very good back-up. Even though I think he is an exceptional distributor, my money is on Augustin flopping at the next level. Even if you are someone who believes he'll pan out at the next level, I don't think anyone will disagree that drafting him will either be a home run or a strikeout. That's a risk I don't think this team can afford.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by BRIGGS:

The biggest loser in the physical part is Augustin. While you only take some of this into consideration--he was small and he did not measure up athletically to guards who were 3-5 inches taller and was the wekaest/lighest player there. I can see why he struugled against chalmers and rose and there is no chance that he should be our pick

Yep... I backed him this season but at tournament time he really, really struggled. Rsoe is going to be a very good player (at least) and Chalmers likely maxes out as a very good back-up. Even though I think he is an exceptional distributor, my money is on Augustin flopping at the next level. Even if you are someone who believes he'll pan out at the next level, I don't think anyone will disagree that drafting him will either be a home run or a strikeout. That's a risk I don't think this team can afford.

Nothing here surprised me that much except Augustine. I knew Randolph was going to come around 200 but he isalso 18 years old and he measured strong athletic and long.

I was surprised and a little disapointed by how slow he was. I don't know how his 3/4 court speed compares to a guy like Bosh - but ARandolph is slower than Love. And I think his time is comparable to Frye as well. That's a bit of a red flag to me. He can jump though, at least.

Posted by joec32033:

Whelan lost me when he said to package the pick to get rid of a contract.

the draft board awaits your presence.

Posted by BRIGGS:

The biggest loser in the physical part is Augustin. While you only take some of this into consideration--he was small and he did not measure up athletically to guards who were 3-5 inches taller and was the wekaest/lighest player there. I can see why he struugled against chalmers and rose and there is no chance that he should be our pick

Was there anything revealed that we didn't already know about Augustine? We knew he was about 5'11 (an inch taller then Ford), we knew he wasn't as athletic as Rose and Bayless (his max sprint was the same time as Bayless). We also knew he was pretty light (still heavier or at least the same weight as Ford or even Kenny Anderson when they entered the draft)

Not saying we should draft him at 6, (I'd still go Gordon, Randolph and Westbrook over him at 6) but I still think he is a good prospect.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by BRIGGS:

The biggest loser in the physical part is Augustin. While you only take some of this into consideration--he was small and he did not measure up athletically to guards who were 3-5 inches taller and was the wekaest/lighest player there. I can see why he struugled against chalmers and rose and there is no chance that he should be our pick

Yep... I backed him this season but at tournament time he really, really struggled. Rsoe is going to be a very good player (at least) and Chalmers likely maxes out as a very good back-up. Even though I think he is an exceptional distributor, my money is on Augustin flopping at the next level. Even if you are someone who believes he'll pan out at the next level, I don't think anyone will disagree that drafting him will either be a home run or a strikeout. That's a risk I don't think this team can afford.

Nothing here surprised me that much except Augustine. I knew Randolph was going to come around 200 but he isalso 18 years old and he measured strong athletic and long.

I wasn't that high on Randolph to begin with. Now, I feel he's a better candidate for anorexia than to be an nba forward. When someone's above 6'10 and weighs under 200 lbs, you have to question whether he can put on weight. He did come in long. As far as athletic, Kevin Love jumped as high and timed faster with an additional 58 lbs to move. As far as strong, it wasn't a disaster, but pressing 185 lbs 7 times is not a great feat of strength for a future nba forward.

I wouldn't be to concerned with weight. KG was rail thin when he came into the league, Camby too and Prince still is. The thin players tend to be better shot blockers also.

Vmart, you make a good point about Garnett and Camby and Prince. But these guys have toughness. Can you imagine what Oakley would do to Randolph? Here's a quote from Givony.

Where Randolph seems to need the most work, especially when considering how he’ll have to be used at the next level, in his defense. He gets pushed around in the post mercilessly; being unable to hold his spot on the block, and thus letting most big men just have their way with him as they please.

The problem here is that Randolph doesn’t seem to put up much resistance, giving up too much space in the post, not showing a great deal of fire fighting back against stronger players, and displaying a laid-back demeanor that is somewhat concerning at times. He gambles for steals, shows poor awareness on the perimeter, and isn’t always quite as active as you might hope. He clearly has the quickness and length to hedge screens and stay in front of his man, as well as the instincts to get after the ball and make his presence felt, but he doesn’t seem to quite know how at this point. With that said, it’s hard not to be impressed by the physical tools, reactivity and nose for the ball he shows coming up with blocks, getting in the passing lanes, grabbing offensive rebounds and more—you’d just like to see it happen more often. There seems to have been some improvement in his effort (particularly as a rebounder) since LSU switched coaches a few weeks ago, so we’ll have to see how this continues in the near future.

Maybe, I'm too down on the guy. Maybe he will turn out to be a very good player and I'll have to apologize to Briggs. But there is bust potential there. No way I'd roll the dice on Randolph with the sixth pick.

Hmm. Beasley is starting to remind me more and more of Glenn Robinson, another guy who led the nation in scoring and rebounding. Big Dog was hyped as the next Larry Bird. Big Dog had a good NBA career, but he just kind of fell off the map toward the end.

Posted by BRIGGS:

The biggest loser in the physical part is Augustin. While you only take some of this into consideration--he was small and he did not measure up athletically to guards who were 3-5 inches taller and was the wekaest/lighest player there. I can see why he struugled against chalmers and rose and there is no chance that he should be our pick

Briggs tell that to my man Swish.