I think everyone is in agreement that he could run a more open system. He's good at getting mixing it up finding open men and cutters. He's a heady, ice water, player with a mean jumpshot.

Question: is he a decent option via trade?

Tj ford has the crazy back injury that the Knicks should avoid unless the Knicks are unloading some bums.

Baron involves trading big expirings that the Knicks could pawn for something else. Not really an issue though.

These college guards coming in aren't real points and rose and bayless are out of reach. Dj augustine is a reach @ #6.

Hinrichs contract is moderate. He can do 15/6 easy. Maybe more with a open system and eventually better players around him hopefully.

That's my summary. What ya'll think of the possibility?

He's got four years left on his contract. The nice thing is, his contract goes down in value. 10 mil now, down to about 8 mil in four years. Why can't we do that?

I just don't see anything to trade him with from our team. And why would the bulls want to get rid of him anyway?

If it where a straight up trade, then I'd think about it. But again, if we are going for cap flex and shooting for someone like LeBron, then it goes against our plans. Any other incentives regarding deals with chicago, forget about it. They'll end up with the upper hand on us. I don't trust them at all. Not since the curry deal.

Of course it depends on the cost, but Hinrich is a nice player. He's good on the three, he finds the open man and he plays tough d. Maybe we can have a backcourt of Hinrich and J R Smith and use our pick on a forward or center.

Posted by fishmike:

if the Bulls draft Rose I think they would be open to trading him.

I would rather go after Barbosa and Diaw if we are willing to add money. JR SMith also. Chris Duhon for a budget.

I'd consider that, only if we drafted Koufos. But after that, our main and only goal should be to go after someone like Howard in three years, if not LeBron in two. I still think LeBron's coming to NYC, whether it be us or Brooklyn Nets.

What? We take hinrich for what? An expiring and Chandler???
WTF! HELL NO!!!

First JC then Curry....Now Hinrich?

And you wonder why the Knicks are chitty...

We are becoming the Bulls all over again....

How about this for a baseline?


New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.4 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and +5.1 apg.
Incoming Players
Kirk Hinrich
6-3 PG from Kansas
11.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 6.0 apg in 31.6 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
14.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.0 minutes
Outgoing Players
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.6 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.5 minutes
Renaldo Balkman
6-7 SF from South Carolina
3.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.6 minutes

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.4 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and -5.1 apg.
Incoming Players
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.6 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.5 minutes
Renaldo Balkman
6-7 SF from South Carolina
3.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kirk Hinrich
6-3 PG from Kansas
11.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 6.0 apg in 31.6 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
14.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.7 apg in 31.0 minutes

[Edited by - joec32033 on 26 May 2008 19:06]

i don't think there's any way they'd trade us Hinrich & take back Zach.

a deal they may consider IMO w/o having to give up our pick is something like:

Kirk Hinrich
Ty Thomas
Larry Hughes

for

David Lee
Marbury's expiring
Mardy Collins
2nd round pick in '09