I agree with Code--if we are not going to address a 4-5 position that Russell Westbrook is the pick
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nyk4ever
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5/22/2008 11:30 PM
Westbrook is a great choice. Before the NCAA tourney he was MY "breakout player" candidate and he did break out quite well. His combination of speed and athleticism is duplicated by few and he's a ballhawk on the perimeter. He's a perfect guy to play PG in D'Antoni's system.
[Edited by - nyk4ever on 05-22-2008 11:56 PM] "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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rain
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5/22/2008 11:52 PM
He's the pick at six.. I agree. When playing point guard this year.. with Collison on the bench, he was good at running the team. He's got that second gear to get to the hoop and defend. I love his game. Thumbs up from me. Its either going to be he or Gallinari. Remember, if he can play point.. its the hardest position in the league to fill effectively.
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BRIGGS
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5/23/2008 12:16 AM
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Posted by rain: He's the pick at six.. I agree. When playing point guard this year.. with Collison on the bench, he was good at running the team. He's got that second gear to get to the hoop and defend. I love his game. Thumbs up from me. Its either going to be he or Gallinari. Remember, if he can play point.. its the hardest position in the league to fill effectively. Im not interested in Gallinari at all. We have a very nice prospect at 3 already in Chandler not to mention Balkman Jefferies. Gallinari looks very average spped wise and doesnt look like he can help this team in it's worst area---defense. Westbrook on the other hand can lock down and suffocated the ball and play both guard positions on offense. Westbrook has the similar skill ser that Ellis has--they both really dont shoot the 3 but do have that mid range game/slash game where it's almost impossible to defend. JMO but the athletic ability that Westbrook has almost always translates very very well to the NBA--I fear that looking at Gallinari Im just looking at Boston Nachbar--they really dont look much different. Westbrook is the type of athlete that will help re-energize the garden. How many 3s do we need? He doesnt stand out enough to warrant taking another one. Westbrook looks like he will be a better rebounder from the G position than Gallinari would be from the F. I wouldnt let that type of athletic ability go past me--not the way we have suffered on the D. Westbrook is also much more likely to help guys like Curry Crawford and Chadler with more spacing and solid passing. RIP Crushalot😞
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islesfan
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5/23/2008 1:07 AM
I'd be interested to see how he does in Orlando. If he shows that he has a clue as to how to run an offense, I'd be happy with taking him at 6. I love the fact that he's so tenacious on defense to go with his great athleticism.
I disagree that he should be used at SG though. He's not a good enough shooter, he has difficulty setting up his own shot and he's too short. He's rough around the edges as a PG but has good upside on both sides of the ball. If he can handle the PG position at the NBA level, he could wind up being a diamond in the rough. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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Ira
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5/23/2008 6:23 AM
If he were a couple of inches taller, I'd like him as a 2. As it is, he'll probably be one of the many pg's who are there more because of athletic ability or scoring potential than because they are good at running the offense. In a way he reminds me of a shorter Crawford who can play d. It's a pick I could live with and I'd like better than some of the bigs that have been mentioned.
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purple012870
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5/23/2008 7:38 AM
How do you feel about Westbrrok over Mayo (if Mayo slips slightly)?
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mattshaw78
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5/23/2008 8:02 AM
Westbrook sounds logical but this is the knicks and I have a funny feeling they are going to take Danilo Gallinari and he is going to be a bust like Frederic Weis
BlueSeats "I like anyone who can make Lebron cry. Melo seems to do it a lot."
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purple012870
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5/23/2008 9:04 AM
I don't think Gallinari has anything to do with Weis. I think that connection is without merit.
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mattshaw78
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5/23/2008 9:05 AM
what I meant is that he will be a bust. They had high hopes on Weis and I feel they are going to do the same with this kid. We went through lampe and weis and they were both bust.
BlueSeats "I like anyone who can make Lebron cry. Melo seems to do it a lot."
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JohnWallace44
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5/23/2008 9:23 AM
Should we really pick another combo guard?
Should we really pick a player that plays a position where we have a decent player in Crawford? Let's not mess around with someone who will need to learn the point. If we're getting a new point, let's make it a pure point guard this time please. Alan Hahn:
Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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Panos
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5/23/2008 9:54 AM
Posted by mattshaw78: Who had high hopes on Fred "Tea-bag" Weis? Don't remember anyone being too excited by the pick. |
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Cosmic
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5/23/2008 10:09 AM
Posted by Panos:Posted by mattshaw78: http://popcornmachine.net/ A must-use tool for NBA stat junkies!
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FrenchKnicks
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5/23/2008 10:31 AM
Posted by BRIGGS: I don't get it, that what you posted on an other Westbrook thread : BRIGGS Quote He looks like he is two years 20 pounds a consistent jumpshot away from being a legit first round pick--he is NOT ready for the NBA--he's way to skinny with way to many holes at this point. If this kid comes out he is making a mistake and any team reaching for him in the top 20 better be prepared to have him in the D league. |
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earthmansurfer
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5/23/2008 11:09 AM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Russell-Westbrook-5062/
From that artice: As a point guard, Westbrook is not an instinctive playmaker, but is very much capable of bringing the ball up the floor and getting his team into its offense. He is smart, patient, and highly unselfish, and possesses the court vision needed to find the open man without hesitation, picking up quite a few assists just by getting the ball to the right place in UCLA’s half-court sets. He lacks some creativity when it comes to improvising outside of his team’s offense, though, and it’s here that his inexperience running the point guard position, along with his average ball-handling skills, seem to show the most. It should be noted that despite his very high assist totals (4.6 per game on the season, compared with just 2.7 turnovers), when taking into account only the most competitive games UCLA was involved with (the eleven which finished within a 10 point margin), his assists per game drop to 3.2, while his turnovers remain at 2.7. There are A LOT of great points regarding him, particularly his speed, defense and court vision so I'm not trying to come down on the guy with that one quote. Here ;) : Defensively, Westbrook is nothing short of outstanding, as evidenced by the phenomenal work he did locking down the three top scoring guards in the Pac-10 this season, O.J. Mayo, Jerryd Bayless, and James Harden. He is long, strong and very fundamentally sound, getting into a terrific defensive stance on every possession, moving his feet incredibly well, and being absolutely tenacious getting after his matchup. His wingspan, combined with his huge hands and outstanding anticipation skills make him a terror in the passing lanes, and this is a big factor why he spends so much time in transition offensively. It comes down to this: I really trust who ever Walsh/D'Antoni decide to do with the pick and you Briggs have an eye for talent. In particular for the system we will be playing. Remember where the prospects have been in the last week and compare it to where they will be picked next month. The day of the draft is an exciting time. EMS The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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islesfan
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5/23/2008 11:49 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44: If we were supposed to be picking a new coach irregardless of the current roster, because this current team sucks and needs to be blown up, then why would we be worried about acquiring players in regards to who is currently playing their position? Besides, I wouldn't want Westbrook at SG. If he can't handle the PG position I think we should look elsewhere. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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fishmike
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5/23/2008 12:17 PM
Westbrook looks great. I will be open to anyone this management drafts
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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BRIGGS
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5/23/2008 1:16 PM
F-Lee
F Chandler F Balkman G Westbrook G Crawford Curry Nate Marbury RIP Crushalot😞
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Panos
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5/23/2008 1:24 PM
Posted by BRIGGS: This team would run amok if only Chandler had a reliable 3 pt shot, and Lee or Balk had a mid-range game. |
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BRIGGS
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5/23/2008 1:34 PM
Posted by Panos:Posted by BRIGGS: I don't think it is necessary to throw up 2000 3s. What you want is to speed the game up and get good shots with space and penetration. This line up just sets a tone. We will have to ask Lee to pick up his defense RIP Crushalot😞
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I agree with Code--if we are not going to address a 4-5 position that Russell Westbrook is the pick