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The Euro league Plantation
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martin
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5/16/2008  11:30 PM
A presentation from UBE (European Basketball Players Association) was solicited during a meeting last September in order to provide information on the situation in Europe to NBA agents, many of whom also represent players in Europe.

The presentation included an overview of the players associations in Europe and a listing of the common types of problems in some of the countries. For example, in Germany after a serious injury a players full salary is only guaranteed for 6 weeks if a special provision is not included in the contract; in France, contracts are never “net” of income taxes; in Italy, the only “guaranteed contract” is the standard contract in the CBA; in Spain, there is a strong effort by the union to eliminate the participation of naturalized Spainards; and in Greece, teams are allowed not to pay players for up to 3 months.

http://www.ballineurope.com/european-basketball/euroleague/nba-players-association-meets-europe/
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5/17/2008  10:44 AM
The euro league is at best sharecroppers , while the NCAA basketball is a straight up Plantation.
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5/17/2008  5:14 PM
C'mon playa in order to take your posts serious you have to either defend the positions or man up and say "point taken" which is a gentlemanly way of saying "im not always right!!!!"

Here is a point about the plantation. Football and Basketball (those cash making crop)help fund many of the non profitable SCHOLARSHIPS SO STUDENT ATHLETES CAN GET AN EDUCATION AND BE A PART OF THE COLLEGE AND STUDENT CULTURE.

This plantation the student athlete is celebrated, especially those whom are successful. They are held in high regard and given privileges not afforded to other studants. They are given access to the gym, many hours of instruction by coaches to help them get to the next level as a pro. They are invited to all the parties, get on TV, jump from tall highs into pools, and every nite ovulating young women offer themselves to sire a child. Such offspring are great income generaters by the way, and the DNA might help them sire a young athlete themseves!

On the plantation, students (incuding minorities) who play other sports are given opportunties to not earn money for the master, but get an opportunity leave home and go to school for 4 years and play a sport they have excelled in. These successful scholarship athletes are givena chance to further their excellence either in the arena of sport, but also participate as campus leaders in studant government, ROTC, clubs and also travel! Those baskeball studs who bring in the big bucks get to at times play in Hawaii, Europe, and other nice places. They play on teams that travel in the summer also!

I think less than 4% of NCAA div. 1 athletes will even make a dime in the pros.

I think Playa your talking about maybe, maybe 10 high school ballers who maybe are getting screwed by "Forcing" him to the plantation and generationg wealth for others.

In basketball how many former studant athletes get jobs in the NBA but not playing, but all the THOUSANDS of employees the NBA has? Gone on to television production of sports? And became coaches. Many of the very junior assistant coaches get additional scholarships to get masters degrees (Masters? So they can start their own plantations?)

The NBA is only going to draft 60 players in two rounds each year. Thats it. Say there are another 60 that will wallow in the d league and overseas.

Playa, the superior players usually will survive a year on the farm and still rise to stardom making millions while the NBA gets to screen them and make better judgements.

of those some will rise and some will fall. Thats right, it may actually enrich some players, while some pretenders will fail.

Maybe Rashard Lewis would have benefited than fall like he did, and likewise Kwame might have been found out earlier and fallen, and given a chance to mature as a talent and as a person. He still has made over 10 mil so its not like he failed. There are many stories of great Lebrons, but a few more that fell from grace.

THe problems really exist in high school where the best kids think they are heading to the NBA and don't study, or get privileges (if not they go to another school that will grant them!)that allow them to skip class all thinking they will go pro! 95% won't!!!!!!

Do we have to blame someone or something for this? Who is reponsable?

or can we just we say every year there are many kids who are great basketball players and they are taken advantage of buy their peers, schools, parents, guardians, sneaker companies, and THEN colleges. If they were complete studant athletes like so many sports that graduate a much higher % then they could in fact take advantage of the college scholarship and graduate with degrees that will serve them.

So its not so racist that if we say if a great young black child is taken advantage by ALL along the way to the extent he is still at the top of his profession as defined by those 60 players who will make it.

The plantation you speak of is not just the college, but far more vast.

But hey, if a player who can't even figure out one year of school can make it to the Euro's and learn to save his money then more power to him!

Nalod says the NBA should allow their teams to draft no more than 5 players per year from high school. Keeps the teams from losing their minds, and one could say those 5 best are deserving. That includes those 18 year old eurochildren the NBA became enarmored with.

Nalod also says if your asking the rest of the potential work force to wait and develop the betterment of the game and reduce them from not projecting the talent correctly (kwame), then compensate them by better rookie contracts. if the value increases, so should compensation.



[Edited by - nalod on 17-05-2008 5:25 PM]
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5/18/2008  3:26 PM
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