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BRIGGS
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5/16/2008  7:12 PM
Is it possible if Eddy C comes in in good shape that playing 28-32 minutes at C in an open system--lets say 3 guards a F and Curry that he would be able to get back to the easy buckets and positively contribute 16-18 points shooting 60% if we can get our numbers into the 110 range? I dont see EC and ZR on the court at the same time however if we want to see EC play well.
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5/16/2008  7:40 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Is it possible if Eddy C comes in in good shape that playing 28-32 minutes at C in an open system--lets say 3 guards a F and Curry that he would be able to get back to the easy buckets and positively contribute 16-18 points shooting 60% if we can get our numbers into the 110 range? I dont see EC and ZR on the court at the same time however if we want to see EC play well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with whether Eddy comes into camp in shape. He can come into camp in super shape and it still won't work in D'Antoni's system playing 30 MPG. Why? Because D'Antoni's system requires intelligent QUICK THINKING players. Eddy is slow-brained and that is the problem.

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5/16/2008  8:04 PM
if Curry comes into next season in shape & drops at least 25-30 lbs, then i can maybe see it, but that begs the question will that have been due to him getting back on the diet pills & will it screw w/his heart again?
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5/16/2008  8:38 PM
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5/16/2008  8:54 PM
The problem is we have been asking the same question of eddy curry for the past few seasons. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I have to agree with the other people that say, eddy probably will not do it.

The funny thing is, from a mere talent perspective Randolph is probably the best fit for an up and down offense. He is more versatile than Curry, he can put it on the floor, shoot the jump shot and he rebounds. In an offensive type of system he might actually do well. attitude and off the court antics aside, I think he should be the one that we keep. If D'antoni is willing to work with Marbury, then he has to attempt to work with Zach
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5/16/2008  11:17 PM
no

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5/17/2008  10:43 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Is it possible if Eddy C comes in in good shape that playing 28-32 minutes at C in an open system--lets say 3 guards a F and Curry that he would be able to get back to the easy buckets and positively contribute 16-18 points shooting 60% if we can get our numbers into the 110 range? I dont see EC and ZR on the court at the same time however if we want to see EC play well.

I kind of agree with the implication you're making that EC was set back by ZR's presence on the team. We can say that EC is mentally soft, lacks passion, etc, but I think he could play a role in the right situation.

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5/17/2008  10:48 AM
I think Eddy is emotionally soft and needs to be picked up by his coach like Isiah did in his second year. He is a young guy with alot of offensive talent who has been stuck in the most dysfunctional situation in sports. I think his upside is the same as when he arrived because he hasn't been coached for three years. He has to put alot into it himself but I think it is important to remember that he has been here since he was 22 and it has not been a good situation.
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5/17/2008  10:54 AM
If Curry is going to be in the plans then the KNicks need a compliment next to Curry. I don't think Zach is that compliment, with curry's lack of defensive skills the Knicks need a defensive minded shot blocking presence next to him. I like Lee but he doesn't fit as a comliment to Curry either. Now if the knicks might want to consider a trade of Curry maybe for Camby that would mean you can keep Randloph which would actually benefit D'Antoni's offense and defense.
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5/17/2008  1:07 PM
Posted by majorleads:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Is it possible if Eddy C comes in in good shape that playing 28-32 minutes at C in an open system--lets say 3 guards a F and Curry that he would be able to get back to the easy buckets and positively contribute 16-18 points shooting 60% if we can get our numbers into the 110 range? I dont see EC and ZR on the court at the same time however if we want to see EC play well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with whether Eddy comes into camp in shape. He can come into camp in super shape and it still won't work in D'Antoni's system playing 30 MPG. Why? Because D'Antoni's system requires intelligent QUICK THINKING players. Eddy is slow-brained and that is the problem.

Wait a minute majors, this is a very interesting concept. A system like that could cause curry not to have to think, second guess himself and make him react more with his physical strength, rather than actually trying to use his brain. I know that sounds silly, but it's very true with some people.

If Mike forces him to speed up, he might turn into a better player. I like this concept BRIGGS. It's never been tested before, so why not majors?
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5/17/2008  4:19 PM
curry stated that's the way he plays and he is not changing. if his play deteriorates in d'antoni's system i would suspect a realignment is reality check......let's see what happens
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5/18/2008  2:31 AM
Way off topic but we are talking about Isiah's prized posession and I was just on ESPN reading an article and our very own iyamwhutiyam (or whatever) was on the article about Walsh's struggle to fix the team and was on there praising Isiah. I have come to the conclusion that it is Isiah himself.
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5/18/2008  4:56 AM
Posted by Michael6835:

The problem is we have been asking the same question of eddy curry for the past few seasons. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I have to agree with the other people that say, eddy probably will not do it.

The funny thing is, from a mere talent perspective Randolph is probably the best fit for an up and down offense. He is more versatile than Curry, he can put it on the floor, shoot the jump shot and he rebounds. In an offensive type of system he might actually do well. attitude and off the court antics aside, I think he should be the one that we keep. If D'antoni is willing to work with Marbury, then he has to attempt to work with Zach
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5/18/2008  5:01 AM
I was starting to have high hopes for Curry after the season before last. I don't think it's impossible that he comes into camp in good shape, but after recent experience, I'd say it's highly unlikely.
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5/18/2008  5:33 AM
And by the way, Eddy Curry is NOT young anymore. He will be 26 this next season. I am a year younger than him and I feel old already.
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5/18/2008  12:26 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:

And by the way, Eddy Curry is NOT young anymore. He will be 26 this next season. I am a year younger than him and I feel old already.

Your too young to understand age then. I don't mean that to be an insult. You just don't know yet and curry at 26 is damn young for sure. Hell, some guys can play well into their 30's. Basketball is a grueling sport and take a lot of wear and tear on you through just a ten year career. Not like baseball of even football, where you get a break every pitch or play. But football players take a lot of hits that can shorten a career further. Baseball, the most relaxing sport in America.

But that age thing? 26' those are the best years. Don't get me wrong. I never been a big curry fan, but I wonder what kind of effect D'An is gonna have on these players. And it's obvious that whoever doesn't fit the program will be gone soon enough.
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5/18/2008  12:28 PM
If CUrry was going to come to camp in shape it would have been the last year when he knew his boy Isiah whom he was going to leave the team if fired was going to coach.
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5/18/2008  12:31 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

And by the way, Eddy Curry is NOT young anymore. He will be 26 this next season. I am a year younger than him and I feel old already.

Your too young to understand age then. I don't mean that to be an insult. You just don't know yet and curry at 26 is damn young for sure. Hell, some guys can play well into their 30's. Basketball is a grueling sport and take a lot of wear and tear on you through just a ten year career. Not like baseball of even football, where you get a break every pitch or play. But football players take a lot of hits that can shorten a career further. Baseball, the most relaxing sport in America.

But that age thing? 26' those are the best years. Don't get me wrong. I never been a big curry fan, but I wonder what kind of effect D'An is gonna have on these players. And it's obvious that whoever doesn't fit the program will be gone soon enough.
Of course I dont take that as an insult, man. I just meant that at 26 is just too late to change its habits, even more taking into consideration his lack of work ethic and effort. I have said it many times in the Curry discussion. If you have not learned anything about rebounding, playing defense or at least, being in shape at 26 after 8 years in the league, I dont see how you expect that to change at any point of his career.
Of course 26-30 are the best years of a basketball player, but especially if you had already manage to be good, which Curry has not, just my opinion.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 18-05-2008 6:31 PM]
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5/18/2008  12:45 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

And by the way, Eddy Curry is NOT young anymore. He will be 26 this next season. I am a year younger than him and I feel old already.

Your too young to understand age then. I don't mean that to be an insult. You just don't know yet and curry at 26 is damn young for sure. Hell, some guys can play well into their 30's. Basketball is a grueling sport and take a lot of wear and tear on you through just a ten year career. Not like baseball of even football, where you get a break every pitch or play. But football players take a lot of hits that can shorten a career further. Baseball, the most relaxing sport in America.

But that age thing? 26' those are the best years. Don't get me wrong. I never been a big curry fan, but I wonder what kind of effect D'An is gonna have on these players. And it's obvious that whoever doesn't fit the program will be gone soon enough.
Of course I dont take that as an insult, man. I just meant that at 26 is just too late to change its habits, even more taking into consideration his lack of work ethic and effort. I have said it many times in the Curry discussion. If you have not learned anything about rebounding, playing defense or at least, being in shape at 26 after 8 years in the league, I dont see how you expect that to change at any point of his career.
Of course 26-30 are the best years of a basketball player, but especially if you had already manage to be good, which Curry has not, just my opinion.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 18-05-2008 6:31 PM]

I certainly can't argue with that.
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