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Did you read the article? Sounds like you don't want' him to adjust. Almost sounds like you don't want him to succeed. I keep hearing that nothings gonna change with the roster, but you and others thought that jax could do better. A man with no experience. What's the thinking behind all of this? Whoever heard of a concept of running and gunning the whole game, in a Knick uniform?

To shoot to score within seven seconds, every time they have the ball, is a concept I never heard of before. Granted, curry and z probably would burn out before the first quarter ended. Point is, we already know how the roster is, so why not try some other concepts? All isiah did was debate with who was going to start and who was going be the best defensive fit for a position.

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5/14/2008 9:56 PM

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Think about this guys! We already know that these Knicks are not a defensive gem. They are more of a scoring core.

So wouldn't it make sense for an offensive coach to exploit that fact and get what he can out of it??? Simply said, we have to stop thinking and beating our heads against the wall about any defense that is gonna come out of this bunch.

Minimal D and lots and lots of offense! It's certainly worth a try.

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Because Isiah's roster cannot be instantly liquidated. He has to do what's best for the players he has while he waits for the players he wants.

exactly... it's gonna take a while to fix this mess.

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Because Isiah's roster cannot be instantly liquidated. He has to do what's best for the players he has while he waits for the players he wants.

exactly... it's gonna take a while to fix this mess.

Agreed! But I would still like to see what he tries to do with this group while we wait.

I'll never trust this' team again.

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Why would he adjust? He is the best at doing one thing. No need to adjust to Isiah Thomas' roster.

Did you read the article? Sounds like you don't want' him to adjust. Almost sounds like you don't want him to succeed. I keep hearing that nothings gonna change with the roster, but you and others thought that jax could do better. A man with no experience. What's the thinking behind all of this? Whoever heard of a concept of running and gunning the whole game, in a Knick uniform?

To shoot to score within seven seconds, every time they have the ball, is a concept I never heard of before. Granted, curry and z probably would burn out before the first quarter ended. Point is, we already know how the roster is, so why not try some other concepts? All isiah did was debate with who was going to start and who was going be the best defensive fit for a position.

Yeah, you got me. You found out my master plan.

For the last time, I never wanted Mark Jackson or campaigned to get him here. Either you bring up some facts or stop talking in circles all the time.

As for D'Antoni, he coaches one way the best. It would be wise to attempt to rid of Randolph and/or Curry to try and help him with that coaching style. Obviously he wont be able to do it Suns-style in his first few years here but I am talking about in the grand scheme of things he should not change what he coaches best and most successfully.

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D'Antoni said that hey are going to run and gun. And he should say that he is going to run, run and run this is the only way to get some of the clown on the team to come to training camp in shape. He said the best players are going to play and that means the best players will be in proper shape. Fat boy Curry, Richardson and Zack need to come in shape ready to run. Jerome well I don't thinnk it makes a difference who is coaching he is going to come in as a fat slob that he is.

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Think about this guys! We already know that these Knicks are not a defensive gem. They are more of a scoring core.

So wouldn't it make sense for an offensive coach to exploit that fact and get what he can out of it??? Simply said, we have to stop thinking and beating our heads against the wall about any defense that is gonna come out of this bunch.

Minimal D and lots and lots of offense! It's certainly worth a try.

And if we are going to have any hope of moving Curry or Zach, we're going to have to prove that they can do something, anything well.

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Why would he adjust? He is the best at doing one thing. No need to adjust to Isiah Thomas' roster.

Did you read the article? Sounds like you don't want' him to adjust. Almost sounds like you don't want him to succeed. I keep hearing that nothings gonna change with the roster, but you and others thought that jax could do better. A man with no experience. What's the thinking behind all of this? Whoever heard of a concept of running and gunning the whole game, in a Knick uniform?

To shoot to score within seven seconds, every time they have the ball, is a concept I never heard of before. Granted, curry and z probably would burn out before the first quarter ended. Point is, we already know how the roster is, so why not try some other concepts? All isiah did was debate with who was going to start and who was going be the best defensive fit for a position.

Yeah, you got me. You found out my master plan.

For the last time, I never wanted Mark Jackson or campaigned to get him here. Either you bring up some facts or stop talking in circles all the time.

As for D'Antoni, he coaches one way the best. It would be wise to attempt to rid of Randolph and/or Curry to try and help him with that coaching style. Obviously he wont be able to do it Suns-style in his first few years here but I am talking about in the grand scheme of things he should not change what he coaches best and most successfully.

I'm looking for answers and being on the same page. I don't want to hear what D can't do anymore.

If I'm running in circles, it's only because this whole boards been running in circles and it's because isiah's been running Knick world in circles.

Yes' it would have been wise to get rid of cur and z, but nobody wanted them and why free up cap now. There's no one significant out there right now. I'm going with the master plan and that is wait for the right time to free up the cap and land LeBron.

I'll never trust this' team again.

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Think about this guys! We already know that these Knicks are not a defensive gem. They are more of a scoring core.

So wouldn't it make sense for an offensive coach to exploit that fact and get what he can out of it??? Simply said, we have to stop thinking and beating our heads against the wall about any defense that is gonna come out of this bunch.

Minimal D and lots and lots of offense! It's certainly worth a try.

And if we are going to have any hope of moving Curry or Zach, we're going to have to prove that they can do something, anything well.

As acknowledged above, cur-z are the main probs for a run, run, run campaign. But why not just use Morris the majority of time. Young legs, might as well as use him and see what he really has in stamina.

I'll never trust this' team again.

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Because Isiah's roster cannot be instantly liquidated. He has to do what's best for the players he has while he waits for the players he wants.

exactly... it's gonna take a while to fix this mess.

The thing that Larry Brown refused to do. This is a different situation than that at this point though. Id rather he install his style of play and force the players to be in shape come camp and game one. Those that aren't in shape wouldn't have anyone to blame but themselves as they won't get any burn since they won't be able to keep up with the pace.

Id also rather him put his attention to making Crawford, Nate, Chandler, Lee, Balkman, maybe even Curry & Marbury succeed in an uptempo style rather than trying to make Randolph & Curry work as a frontcourt.

Trade Randolph, call Curry & tell him that he isn't going to play unless he is in shape and can play uptempo.

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call Curry & tell him that he isn't going to play unless he is in shape and can play uptempo.

Isn't that what Aguirre has been doing the past 3 Summers? I think when you're dealing with Curry, you have to have someone meeting up with him, many many times, over the Summer, and monitor what he's doing. Diet, sleep and excercise routines. Last training camp, he claimed that his working out consisted of a "Lot of shooting." Not only did he come into camp out of shape, but he barely took any jump shots last season. That's unacceptable and I can't believe Isiah and staff let him get away with that. Curry can't be trusted alone this Summer. Someone needs to literally be checking on his fat ars everyday. He's a freaking baby.

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Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Because Isiah's roster cannot be instantly liquidated. He has to do what's best for the players he has while he waits for the players he wants.

exactly... it's gonna take a while to fix this mess.

The thing that Larry Brown refused to do. This is a different situation than that at this point though. Id rather he install his style of play and force the players to be in shape come camp and game one. Those that aren't in shape wouldn't have anyone to blame but themselves as they won't get any burn since they won't be able to keep up with the pace.

Id also rather him put his attention to making Crawford, Nate, Chandler, Lee, Balkman, maybe even Curry & Marbury succeed in an uptempo style rather than trying to make Randolph & Curry work as a frontcourt.

Trade Randolph, call Curry & tell him that he isn't going to play unless he is in shape and can play uptempo.

i agree w/all that but i don't think Curry's gonna be successful in this system cuz of his weight issues... would love to see it work out but i'm not holding my breathe on Curry in a run & gun style game.

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