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5/14/2008  6:40 PM
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NBA Execs Rate Derrick Rose At Top Prospect
May 14, 2008 - 6:23 pm
The Miami Herald -
A number of NBA executives currently favor Derrick Rose over Michael Beasley as the top rated prospect in this June's draft, according to The Miami Herald.

Bobby Jackson of The Herald reportedly asked more than a dozen basketball people to pick between the two, with more than two-thirds selecting Rose.

The Heat also seem to be leaning towards Rose, should they land the top overall pick during next Tuesday's NBA Lottery.

"You take Rose because the game is becoming increasingly guard oriented," one team's scouting director said. "Guards who have that combination of speed and power have increasing impact in the league. And if Miami doesn't take Rose, they will continue to have a huge point guard problem. They can do without a great power forward more than a great point guard."

"You have so many smaller point guards, and here's a chance to get a bigger [6-3], more physically mature one. His perimeter shooting consistency will get better," said another scout.

RealGM Note: Editor Chris Reina has rated Rose as the top prospect in the seventh version of his NBA Mock Draft, after rating Beasley above the Memphis point guard often.
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5/14/2008  6:42 PM
I figured I'd post this. It seems as if we want any shot at Rose, we can't hope for top2 anymore, it's hoping we get #1.

Mr. Stern... I know you're going to do right by us and rig this thing...
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5/14/2008  6:44 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I figured I'd post this. It seems as if we want any shot at Rose, we can't hope for top2 anymore, it's hoping we get #1.

Mr. Stern... I know you're going to do right by us and rig this thing...

If Stern was rigging things, we would have had LeBron already. I wouldn't put my hopes on that.
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5/14/2008  6:49 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I figured I'd post this. It seems as if we want any shot at Rose, we can't hope for top2 anymore, it's hoping we get #1.

Mr. Stern... I know you're going to do right by us and rig this thing...

You think Memphis takes Rose if they are number #1? Memphis at 1 is probably our only shot at Rose if we land at #2.
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5/14/2008  7:16 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I figured I'd post this. It seems as if we want any shot at Rose, we can't hope for top2 anymore, it's hoping we get #1.

Mr. Stern... I know you're going to do right by us and rig this thing...

If Stern was rigging things, we would have had LeBron already. I wouldn't put my hopes on that.

CLE franchise needed LeBron as much as any other failing market.

... and now that the Knicks have been such a suckhole the past 4 years, Stern is finally gonna come to our rescue.
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5/14/2008  7:28 PM
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5/14/2008  7:41 PM
Rose isn't going ahead of Beasley, unless someone seriously screws up. This sort of thing is an attempt to get Beasley to drop below #1. Don't believe anyone affiliated with the NBA when it comes to draft picks, especially right before the draft. They have motives. The only guys who might be honest before draft day is the team with the #1 pick, because they know that nobody can intercept their pick.
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5/14/2008  7:48 PM
Posted by Solace:

Rose isn't going ahead of Beasley, unless someone seriously screws up. This sort of thing is an attempt to get Beasley to drop below #1. Don't believe anyone affiliated with the NBA when it comes to draft picks, especially right before the draft. They have motives. The only guys who might be honest before draft day is the team with the #1 pick, because they know that nobody can intercept their pick.

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Anyone who passes on Beasley I'm going to personally laugh at them every chance I get. Miami is the only exception team if they get the number one pick I can see passing on him because they need a backcourt player to pair with Wade.

After seeing this guy in person I was like 29 teams in the NBA are going to be in major trouble.
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5/15/2008  8:46 AM
Rose or Beasle, it does not matter. Rose would allow use to get rid of Marbury all the sooner and give us a solid pg, which we desperately need. Beasley is a beast and will allow us to use Lee, our best trade asset, in a deal to get a pg. Lee, cash, and a future lottery-protected pick for Mike Conley works for me.
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5/15/2008  10:17 AM
I think Rose is the top prospect, just don't believe he is a point guard.... time will tell though.
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5/15/2008  12:04 PM
Wade and Rose in the same backcourt? I don't see Wade being happy with that.
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5/15/2008  12:25 PM
Derrick Rose has been the #1 guy since Januray, for me at least. Beasley is a great player with a horrible attitude. This is Derrick Coleman and Gary Payton to me. Except this time Payton has a much better attitude.

I can see Beasley one day saying "Well wooped tee damn doo." Although I wouldnt mind at all having Beasely.

Unfortunatly Realgm has the Knicks taking Brook Lopez at 5 which would make me cry. Id rather have anybody other than him. Id even take Deandre over him.
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5/15/2008  1:50 PM
Unless Bealey gets caught soliciting male prostitutes.....he is gonna be #1.

Rose is good but come on now. It would be very interesting to see what he can do in a nba setting.....I think that's more questionable than Beasley.
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5/15/2008  3:06 PM
He should be. You have more of a chance to win having a star PG than a star SF. If the talent and potential are close then go with the PG.

The playoffs featured, Paul, Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, Miller, Billups, Calderon/Ford, Bibby. To a lesser extent, Arenas, Alston, Nelson & Rondo.

Sf wise James, Pierce, Melo, Prince, Iggy, Lewis, Butler, Williams, Odom, Ak47, Hill, Howard, Battier

You tell me who made the bigger impact PGs or the SFs.
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5/15/2008  3:10 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

He should be. You have more of a chance to win having a star PG than a star SF. If the talent and potential are close then go with the PG.

The playoffs featured, Paul, Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, Miller, Billups, Calderon/Ford, Bibby. To a lesser extent, Arenas, Alston, Nelson & Rondo.

Sf wise James, Pierce, Melo, Prince, Iggy, Lewis, Butler, Williams, Odom, Ak47, Hill, Howard, Battier

You tell me who made the bigger impact PGs or the SFs.

Bad comparison. The talent pool in the NBA is currently stronger at PG than SF. That, to me, means that there's more opportunity to get a larger edge by having a great SF. I actually feel the opposite about PG. I feel PG is the one position in the NBA where you a higher percentage of leadership vs. athleticism, talent and statistics. To get the positive qualities of a PG, you can often get great PGs later in the draft than you can other positions. Look at the great PGs you mentioned: half of them went late first round or second round.

Finally, it's not necessarily a given that Beasley is an NBA 3, he could be a 4.

[Edited by - Solace on May 15 2008 3:10 PM]
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5/15/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

He should be. You have more of a chance to win having a star PG than a star SF. If the talent and potential are close then go with the PG.

The playoffs featured, Paul, Williams, Parker, Kidd, Nash, Miller, Billups, Calderon/Ford, Bibby. To a lesser extent, Arenas, Alston, Nelson & Rondo.

Sf wise James, Pierce, Melo, Prince, Iggy, Lewis, Butler, Williams, Odom, Ak47, Hill, Howard, Battier

You tell me who made the bigger impact PGs or the SFs.

Bad comparison. The talent pool in the NBA is currently stronger at PG than SF. That, to me, means that there's more opportunity to get a larger edge by having a great SF. I actually feel the opposite about PG. I feel PG is the one position in the NBA where you a higher percentage of leadership vs. athleticism, talent and statistics. To get the positive qualities of a PG, you can often get great PGs later in the draft than you can other positions. Look at the great PGs you mentioned: half of them went late first round or second round.

Finally, it's not necessarily a given that Beasley is an NBA 3, he could be a 4.

[Edited by - Solace on May 15 2008 3:10 PM]

Paul, Williams, Kidd, Bibby, Ford, Miller, Billups were all taken pretty high in there selected drafts.

I would agree with you on the fact that Beasley could dominate that position for the fact that there are many allstars but not many superstars. But I don't see Beasley as that superstar. I think he will put up a lot of points. But I don't see that leadership quality and ability to make his teammates better. So there for to me its looking like he will be just another star SF ala Jamison but not the player that will dominate the position like Lebron. I think in the end Beasley is going to need a top flight PG to make him win while he puts up big #s.

Rose on the other hand I do see with that ability. Even though there is a lot more top flight comp at the position he has the potential to be in the Chris Paul, Deron Williams mold and end up competing for the Confrence & Championships for the next 15yrs.
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5/15/2008  3:53 PM
On a side note Beasley looks a lot closer to 6'6 6'7 then 6'9.

There is no way he is 2 inches taller than Shawn Marion or that he is the same height as Jamison or Josh Smith
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