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djsunyc
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5/7/2008  12:55 PM
i pose this here b/c i am curious to your thoughts...

let's say you have a shooter like jason kapono. he's basically the best pure jumpshooter in the league. he hits at over 50% on jumpers and 46% on 3's. he scores at a better clip than alot of pf/c's in the league.

yet he's never averaged over 8 shots a game. i will say that whether he takes 5 shots or 12 shots, he still shoots the same %.

07/08 (18 games): 52 fg% (110-212), 46 3fg% (29-63)
06/07 (24 games): 52 fg% (154-294), 53 3fg% (60-114) *missed 15 games

the guy can't create his own shot. he can't slash or take it to the hole. he can't post up. but he's the best at catching and shooting.

if you were a coach, would you design more plays for him almost to the point where he's 2nd or 3rd in fga's for the team? or would you still use him in an opportunistic role if option 1/2/3 are not available?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-07-2008 12:56 PM]
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5/7/2008  1:00 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i pose this here b/c i am curious to your thoughts...

let's say you have a shooter like jason kapono. he's basically the best pure jumpshooter in the league. he hits at over 50% on jumpers and 46% on 3's. he scores at a better clip than alot of pf/c's in the league.

yet he's never averaged over 8 shots a game. i will say that whether he takes 5 shots or 12 shots, he still shoots the same %.

07/08 (18 games): 52 fg% (110-212), 46 3fg% (29-63)
06/07 (24 games): 52 fg% (154-294), 53 3fg% (60-114) *missed 15 games

the guy can't create his own shot. he can't slash or take it to the hole. he can't post up. but he's the best at catching and shooting.

if you were a coach, would you design more plays for him almost to the point where he's 2nd or 3rd in fga's for the team? or would you still use him in an opportunistic role if option 1/2/3 are not available?

[Edited by - djsunyc on 05-07-2008 12:56 PM]

I would definitely try and set more screens for the guy on the perimeter and see if he can curl off them, maybe some more plays in the offense that involve some motion and ball movement so you can swing it around to him, maybe some more drive and kick as well. Guys like Kapono are hard to find, they aren't flashy but they always seem to get the job done, yet teams never capitalize on their abilities.

This happens alot in the NBA and I feel it's because there just aren't that many good coaches in the league.
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5/7/2008  1:02 PM
Teams know that Kapono is a lights out shooter. The only way he ever gets open is when a teammate is double teamed. Maybe you can run his defender through endless screens, but I don't know that Kapono has the skill set to run someone around like Reggie or Rip do.
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5/7/2008  1:20 PM
Posted by eViL:

Teams know that Kapono is a lights out shooter. The only way he ever gets open is when a teammate is double teamed. Maybe you can run his defender through endless screens, but I don't know that Kapono has the skill set to run someone around like Reggie or Rip do.

yes, this is true. they will always have somebody guarding him. but what do you mean by skillset with running around like reggie or rip? those guys basically just use double screens to run around the baseline to get an open look.
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5/7/2008  1:27 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by eViL:

Teams know that Kapono is a lights out shooter. The only way he ever gets open is when a teammate is double teamed. Maybe you can run his defender through endless screens, but I don't know that Kapono has the skill set to run someone around like Reggie or Rip do.

yes, this is true. they will always have somebody guarding him. but what do you mean by skillset with running around like reggie or rip? those guys basically just use double screens to run around the baseline to get an open look.

I guess I'm assuming that there's more skill to running through screens than one would think. Otherwise, I'd assume the Raptors would already be doing it. I guess I might be wrong to assume that all teams, players and coaches act rationally. Maybe it's not Kapono who doesn't have the skills. Maybe his team just isn't good at freeing him up with screens, maybe his coach isn't good at drawing up or teaching the plays. Who knows? I'm with you -- if you know the guy is a lights out shooter, you take advantage.
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5/7/2008  3:31 PM
i wouldn't use Kapono the way i would a guy like Allan Houston, who also had an unusually high FG% for a jumpshooter, but also had the ability to create his own shot & not rely on just running off screens & getting kick outs to get his points.
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5/7/2008  3:39 PM
I'd like to see Kapono on a team like the Suns or maybe even playing with Chris Paul. Lights out.
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5/7/2008  8:14 PM
Moving without the ball was an art on the Knicks of the early '70's. Kiki was also very skilled at it.
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5/7/2008  9:37 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by eViL:

Teams know that Kapono is a lights out shooter. The only way he ever gets open is when a teammate is double teamed. Maybe you can run his defender through endless screens, but I don't know that Kapono has the skill set to run someone around like Reggie or Rip do.

yes, this is true. they will always have somebody guarding him. but what do you mean by skillset with running around like reggie or rip? those guys basically just use double screens to run around the baseline to get an open look.

I agree he also gets an unusal amount of open looks be cause he's a 3rd or 4th option, and most teams dont defend the 3 ball well. You make him a 2nd option the defense will adjust and those same looks won't be there consistanly.
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5/8/2008  9:41 AM
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maybe it's just my dyslexia acting up but i totally misread your post late last night & thought to myself "what does he want to know about Isiah now??? just leave the poor man alone already"

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5/8/2008  10:36 AM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by eViL:

Teams know that Kapono is a lights out shooter. The only way he ever gets open is when a teammate is double teamed. Maybe you can run his defender through endless screens, but I don't know that Kapono has the skill set to run someone around like Reggie or Rip do.

yes, this is true. they will always have somebody guarding him. but what do you mean by skillset with running around like reggie or rip? those guys basically just use double screens to run around the baseline to get an open look.

I agree he also gets an unusal amount of open looks be cause he's a 3rd or 4th option, and most teams dont defend the 3 ball well. You make him a 2nd option the defense will adjust and those same looks won't be there consistanly.

I think that's the problem in a nutshell. The more this guy has to shoot, the more attention he would get and the less effective he would be. The longer he plays, the defense he has to play, the enegry he has to use, the worst he likely is.
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