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5/3/2008  9:39 AM
D'Antoni, Johnson, Carlisle on Knicks' list?
BY ALAN HAHN | alan.hahn@newsday.com
May 3, 2008

Mike D'Antoni has not hit the open market yet, Avery Johnson already is mulling some options and Rick Carlisle has had a conversation with Donnie Walsh about the Knicks' coaching vacancy. But for various reasons, none of these experienced coaches likely is headed to New York, which means Mark Jackson remains the lead candidate to be named the next head coach.

A person with knowledge of the situation said Johnson, who was fired by the Dallas Mavericks on Thursday, has been involved in a "smattering of conversation" with several teams, including the Knicks. The source said the Knicks have an interest in Johnson "on some level"; another source said that contrary to reports, Johnson's representation reached out to the Knicks, not the other way around.

Newsday also can confirm that former Indiana Pacers coach Carlisle has talked to Walsh about the Knicks' opening, which brings the list to two candidates with whom Walsh officially has discussed the job. Walsh met with Jackson last week in Phoenix. "Rick is the kind of guy, it's like, how can you not talk to him?" the source said.
Walsh knows Carlisle well from the four seasons he was head coach of the Pacers from 2003-07, as well as the years Carlisle spent as Larry Bird's assistant coach in Indiana. He is known as an excellent tactician, but his weakness is in communicating with his players, which is something Walsh believes is critical for the job. It's also something he believes is one of Jackson's strengths.


Carlisle, who works as a studio analyst for ESPN, is believed to be high on Bulls executive John Paxson's list for his coaching vacancy. ESPN.com reported that Carlisle interviewed for the Mavericks' coaching vacancy.

Suns owner Robert Sarver and president Steve Kerr met with D'Antoni on Friday in Phoenix after a disappointing first-round ouster. They plan to meet again next week. Kerr has publicly said he hopes D'Antoni returns and said he would not grant another team permission to speak with his coach. D'Antoni still has two years and $8.5 million left on his contract.
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5/3/2008  9:48 AM
It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.
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5/3/2008  10:38 AM
If there really is a "List" then it's good that he's looking around at his options as opposed to zeroing in on one coach, however, he might wanna move a little quicker. They are interviewing with other teams too and will be gone quickly!
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5/3/2008  11:03 AM
I don't think Jackson will be the coach. If anything was for the fans to "eat up" it was talking to Jackson. I think he is wanting for Tom Thibodeau.
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5/3/2008  11:41 AM
Posted by Anji:

I don't think Jackson will be the coach. If anything was for the fans to "eat up" it was talking to Jackson. I think he is wanting for Tom Thibodeau.

I hope so. He's the guy I'm pulling for. But I'd be happy with Jackson, Mitchell or Avery Johnson.
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5/3/2008  11:46 AM
since we will not be getting phil jackson any time soon donnie's selection should be the most interviewed process in knicks history........i don't care how long it takes donnie selection better be right.

im tired seeing knick fans fabricate larry loser threads that simply fail to address playing to win
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5/3/2008  2:05 PM
Posted by Anji:

I don't think Jackson will be the coach. If anything was for the fans to "eat up" it was talking to Jackson. I think he is wanting for Tom Thibodeau.

If thats the case, and Thibodeau is his guy, why not ask for an interview? There is no way of definitely knowing, but from all the reports that we have read, Walsh hasn't reached out to him yet. There have been occassions when other teams have reached out to coaches while they were in the mist of playoff runs.

IDK...all signs seem to point to Jackson. I guess we will see.
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5/3/2008  2:28 PM
Posted by Uptown:

It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.

You'd pretty dumb, stupid NOT' to look at other people! What's the rush?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/3/2008  2:30 PM
Posted by Bobby:

since we will not be getting phil jackson any time soon d

forget phil. He's old and sucks and his best years are behind him. He used it all up on kicking our asses through the 90's.
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5/3/2008  2:32 PM
I think Jax is going to be used as 'emergency back-up' just in case Donnie doesn't get what he wants.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/3/2008  3:11 PM
Donnie Walsh is doing his coaching search with something us NY'ers seem to have forgotten. CLASS!!!

He's said he wouldn't bother teams for interviews while they were in the playoffs unless absolutely necissary. So I guess if a team were to offer Mark Jackson a contract and give him a deadline, Donnie would have to contact said team in the playoffs that he is waiting on.

Class, and Respect is just good business practices. Donnie is definately going about this the right way.
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5/3/2008  3:41 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Uptown:

It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.

You'd pretty dumb, stupid NOT' to look at other people! What's the rush?


Who said anything about wanting him to rush? The point I'm trying to make is that it seems like this supposed 'list' is just a 'show' for us fans to believe he's doing his due diligence when in fact Mark Jackson seems to be his first, second and third choice anyway.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the fact that Avery Johnson's people had to reach out to Walsh instead of Walsh reaching out to a coach with a winning % of 73 and was just in the finals is mind boggling to me.

Then he had one conversation with Carlise while The Mavs had a series of meetings with him when the job was only open for a couple of days.

Is Walsh dragging is feet? Is he trying to show class by waiting for the Celts to finsh up in the playoffs which will probably bring us to June? Or, is Jackson his man, but he doesn't want to hire him just yet so he doesn't seem to hasty?




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5/3/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Uptown:

It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.

You'd pretty dumb, stupid NOT' to look at other people! What's the rush?


Who said anything about wanting him to rush? The point I'm trying to make is that it seems like this supposed 'list' is just a 'show' for us fans to believe he's doing his due diligence when in fact Mark Jackson seems to be his first, second and third choice anyway.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the fact that Avery Johnson's people had to reach out to Walsh instead of Walsh reaching out to a coach with a winning % of 73 and was just in the finals is mind boggling to me.

Then he had one conversation with Carlise while The Mavs had a series of meetings with him when the job was only open for a couple of days.

Is Walsh dragging is feet? Is he trying to show class by waiting for the Celts to finsh up in the playoffs which will probably bring us to June? Or, is Jackson his man, but he doesn't want to hire him just yet so he doesn't seem to hasty?


If Walsh hires Jackson then Knicks fans are screwed because all evidence will show that it was a mistake to hire Mark Jackson. This guy is not coaching material. Just because he is well spoken doesn't necessarily translate into a good coach. The Walsh era needs to start with a bang and it starts with a top notch coaching candidate not some commentator turned coach that has disaster written all over it. I can't believe that Mark Jackson is still on the list. The only reason Jackson will get hired is because he is Walsh's friend and will command a lot less in money than D'Antoni, Johnson even Tibodeau.

I said this before but this Mark Jackson thing smells to much like the Marbury thing. Local guy comes back to run the Knicks, fans eat that kind of thing up, but we know better now. I just want an experienced coach in here who knows what the hell he is doing and doesn't have alterior motives.
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5/3/2008  5:51 PM
Walsh is already annoying me. First with his decision to keep Isiah and now with his clear intention to hire Mark Jackson without considering anyone.
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Posted by GKFv2:

Walsh is already annoying me. First with his decision to keep Isiah and now with his clear intention to hire Mark Jackson without considering anyone.

I don't think we can really know if he has any other candidates in mind besides Mark Jackson.

I don't think it makes sense to look at Avery - first, I don't think he would even want to come here to lose 50-60 games for the next 2-3 years

and second I think he might be over rated - his win percentage is certainly inflated by coaching a team that had tons of talent.
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Posted by franco12:
Posted by GKFv2:

Walsh is already annoying me. First with his decision to keep Isiah and now with his clear intention to hire Mark Jackson without considering anyone.

I don't think we can really know if he has any other candidates in mind besides Mark Jackson.

I don't think it makes sense to look at Avery - first, I don't think he would even want to come here to lose 50-60 games for the next 2-3 years

and second I think he might be over rated - his win percentage is certainly inflated by coaching a team that had tons of talent.

If you are going into next year with the mind set of losing 50-60 games then the Knicks should have just kept Isiah here. I think coaches want to be here and want a chance at coaching the Knicks especially if the Knicks get a top pick in the draft. If the Knicks come out with the top two pick I think coaches will want the Kniks job even more.

I think its imperiative for the knicks to add a coach for the long haul a coach who has won at this level and done coaching at the level or some level. I am totally against hiring Mark Jackson this is not a good choice especially at this juncture in the Knicks history. They need a no nonsense type of coach who commands repectability. I think D'Antoni and Johnson demand that kind of respectablity. With that said I know that respect holds no water with this current group of Knicks as they are known to be coach killers, but if the kNicks are to go into a new direction then they need to start now with a style of play and implement it as soon as possible especially with the young players the Knicks have. they need to be given direction and Jackson doesn give that direction as he has no idea what coaching is all about.
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5/3/2008  8:42 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Uptown:

It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.

You'd pretty dumb, stupid NOT' to look at other people! What's the rush?


Who said anything about wanting him to rush? The point I'm trying to make is that it seems like this supposed 'list' is just a 'show' for us fans to believe he's doing his due diligence when in fact Mark Jackson seems to be his first, second and third choice anyway.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the fact that Avery Johnson's people had to reach out to Walsh instead of Walsh reaching out to a coach with a winning % of 73 and was just in the finals is mind boggling to me.

Then he had one conversation with Carlise while The Mavs had a series of meetings with him when the job was only open for a couple of days.

Is Walsh dragging is feet? Is he trying to show class by waiting for the Celts to finsh up in the playoffs which will probably bring us to June? Or, is Jackson his man, but he doesn't want to hire him just yet so he doesn't seem to hasty?


If Walsh hires Jackson then Knicks fans are screwed because all evidence will show that it was a mistake to hire Mark Jackson. This guy is not coaching material. Just because he is well spoken doesn't necessarily translate into a good coach. The Walsh era needs to start with a bang and it starts with a top notch coaching candidate not some commentator turned coach that has disaster written all over it. I can't believe that Mark Jackson is still on the list. The only reason Jackson will get hired is because he is Walsh's friend and will command a lot less in money than D'Antoni, Johnson even Tibodeau.

I said this before but this Mark Jackson thing smells to much like the Marbury thing. Local guy comes back to run the Knicks, fans eat that kind of thing up, but we know better now. I just want an experienced coach in here who knows what the hell he is doing and doesn't have alterior motives.

I see your point about bringing in the local guy with NY connections. That might have something to do with Mark being considered. Especially when you realize that the Knicks seem to be the only organization showing any serious interest.

However, I dont think you can say with certainty that Mark isn't coaching material. Has he paid any dues? No. But there's a chance he will turn into a tremendous coach. We wont know until he is given a chance.

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5/3/2008  8:54 PM
I think mark will have good success base on his staff. The Idea of mark, and patrick working with cuury,might be a good mix
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5/3/2008  9:21 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Uptown:

It seems like all these names (Johnson, Carlise, Mitchell, etc) being on some supposed list are just cosmetic. It was Jacksons job from the day Walsh was hired.

Does Walsh really think he is fooling anyone by floating this supposed list around for the fans to eat up? I can't believe Johnsons people had to reach out to the Knicks instead of the other way around. What does an interest in Johnson on "some level" mean?

It's an insult to sit down with these guys just to put on a show when you have no intentions of hiring them. And its equally insulting to the fans aswell. If Jackson is your man, cut the crap and hire him already.

You'd pretty dumb, stupid NOT' to look at other people! What's the rush?


Who said anything about wanting him to rush?

Auhhhh, the heading on this thread? That's why I responded to it the way I did, yes?
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5/3/2008  9:24 PM
I said this before but this Mark Jackson thing smells to much like the Marbury thing. Local guy comes back to run the Knicks, fans eat that kind of thing up, but we know better now. I just want an experienced coach in here who knows what the hell he is doing and doesn't have alterior motives.

You nailed it perfectly. Exactly my points also.
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