and is all of 22 years old. The Denver salary structure is already at 77MM$+ next year--if we give JR a full MLE with a frontload[which should have little bearing on 2010] I do not know if Denver will match it. There is no way people can watch this kid this year and be nothing less than impressed--the way he has handled himself and grown up to his play which has been on par per minute with any top tier SG in the league. Jamal C can go back to his best role as 6th man. We get lucky and win rose and take Oneals contract for Marburys
5 Jermaine Oneal
4 Lee
3 Chandler
2 Smith
1 D rose
6th man Crawford
7th Zach Randolph
8th Nate
9th Curry

he's definitely matured a lot from where he was when he came into the league, but i don't know why people keep formulating opinions based on per 48 stat totals when at best it's a very skewed system to base opinions off of to begin with... he didn't show me all that much this series except in tonight's game, & that's not enough of a reason to add a scoring G that we really don't need at this point... if you look over the games he's played this year, he's only really had 1 big standout game where he scored 43 & that was one where the Nuggets got blown out by the lowly Bulls... he put up a few other notable games, but nothing that makes you do a double take.

i realize you gotta take the fact that he plays on the same team w/2 of the most prolific scorers in the game, but that also gets him a lot of open looks at the basket that he wouldn't normally get if he were 1 of the focal points of the offense... we've all seen how a guy like Rajon Rondo has really benefitted by playing alongside guys like KG, Pierce & Ray Allen... put JR on another team w/no other scoring options & i can see him putting up numbers just like i can see a good amount of other G's doing the same in this game, but this team's got a lotta guys already who like to shoot the rock & if you're gonna compound that glut by drafting a kid like Rose (assuming you're lucky enough to land him), then i'd much rather use the MLE to shore up the frontcourt defense... if there aren't any options available to fill the need in the frontcourt, then i vote to save the cap space & not sign anyone.

if you make the Marbury trade for O'Neal & we don't land a top pick to get Rose, then save the MLE to nab a true PG... no more moves to acquire players that only add to a glut, eat up even more longterm salary on the payroll and don't address any big needs on this roster that can't already be filled w/guys we already have unless you make the moves to clear up some of that glut & address the areas that need to be addressed... if ur so high on JR Smith & wanna pull off a Marbury for O'Neal trade, then get rid of either Jamal or Nate along w/Curry or Zach & replace them w/shorter length contracts of players who play some D.

[Edited by - TMS on 04-29-2008 01:10 AM]

If you can sign JR Smith it really opens up a world of opportunity in the draft. Signing JR Smith means you can really concentrate getting a pure PG in the draft by trading up for Rose or even trading down, getting a pick later (next year since we don't have one?) and taking a guy like Augustine or Westbrook.

I kinda agree with MS here. I think we should try unload some of our current knuckleheads before bringing in a new one.

You can have JR Smith. He's fools gold.

I'd like that if only to eliminate the possibility of taking OJ Mayo.

Then you take Westbrook with the # 5 pick.

And try to trade into the mid 1st to get DJ Augustin.(tell Marbury to stay home until his contract runs out, trade Craw)

Instant backcourt.

PG: Augie, Nate
SG: Smith, Westbrook

No guarantee that we can fix the front court, but fix one problem at a time.

The kid has already had a problem with two coaches. If I'm the Spurs or the Pistons I think he makes sense and could be a steal.

But with the Knicks, a team of ****ing thugs with no heart he would only magnify the problems. We don't need athletes that don't understand the game, we have plenty of them already.

In order to bring this kid in you need to remove, Jamal, Nate, and Curry. If we do that than you can bring him in. I would rather sign a player like Childress for the midlevel.

Smith will never commit to playing defense

Is Childress just a 2 guard version of JJ2 (skinny, unathletic)?

Sure, lets bring in someone who has an attitude problem and calls someone of Kobe's status a "showboat." This fool doesn't even realize he earned that right, whether or not he's a showboat.

He'd be a good fit for a team thats looking for that extra boost of scoring to get to the conference finals or to win it all. JR landing on the Knicks is just fools gold.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Sure, lets bring in someone who has an attitude problem and calls someone of Kobe's status a "showboat." This fool doesn't even realize he earned that right, whether or not he's a showboat.

He'd be a good fit for a team thats looking for that extra boost of scoring to get to the conference finals or to win it all. JR landing on the Knicks is just fools gold.

So this is more personal because he goofed on one of your Lakers?

Overall I agree with you and many others at this point J.R. isn't worth the risk to add as in pile on to the existing roster for any MLE deal, although he'll get more than the MLE. In a S&T I may be interested, but it would have to allow us to dump salary, therefore we need a third team involved to make it work for Denver, if they should so happen to part ways with Smith.

No, its got nothing to do with him goofing on someone in particular. Its about the immaturity he brings to table. He's a taller version of Nate, if you think about it ! I'll tip my hat to him for this series that he played though. He was clearly their best player. It just shows how pathetic and overrated Carmelo Anthony is, and it shows how AI is on a severe decline in his career. JR has the skill and talent. But the current Knicks situation should only look to acquire and retain players who only demonstrate professionalism. Am I really asking for a lot ?

^^ What does Denver gain by that?

And who cares about long contracts? So we can get Lebron? Please... lets build this team with young talent, defense and accumulating picks

We have the resources to make Boston type moves in the next couple of years. We arent getting Lebron or Wade.. we just arent. No mega star has left their team via FA since the cap. The closest was Nash, and he didnt leave, rather Dallas just didnt want to pay him, and that was before the two MVPs. Anything can happen but I am not building my future on the hopes that something happens that never has before.