I agree Briggs but your taking two guys that will not be a factor next year and both high risk high reward. I guarantee Lee defense will get better get him around good players and a good coach and he will excel

Posted by King1:

I agree Briggs but your taking two guys that will not be a factor next year and both high risk high reward. I guarantee Lee defense will get better get him around good players and a good coach and he will excel

Thats the whole thing King--next year does not bother me. We are best served by another high lottrey pic. I would rather have the risk reward ratio that swings for the fence. If I fail--in three years I have absolute FA to back me up. The whole thing is about 3 years from now--the next 2 mean crp.

Posted by King1:

I can agree with that Briggs. I would try and trade Lee and get my pick back from Phoenix.

Jazz have it

I'm honestly back and forth with it. It's hard to replace what Lee brings, which is a double-double, doesn't rock the boat, doesn't need to be involved offensively. I dunno. It really is a tough decision.

The last few years our kids have been polluted by toxic veterans. Lee is one of a handful of guys who -I believe- sets the right tone at practice and on the floor. How much is that kind of influence worth? Alternatively, what kind of tone is being set in the absence of Lee influence? Who do we want rubbing off on new guys, Zach, Eddy and Steph?

Posted by BlueSeats:

The last few years our kids have been polluted by toxic veterans. Lee is one of a handful of guys who -I believe- sets the right tone at practice and on the floor. How much is that kind of influence worth? Alternatively, what kind of tone is being set in the absence of Lee influence? Who do we want rubbing off on new guys, Zach, Eddy and Steph?

There is no plan there. I accept the next two years will sck[likely who knows] as it will be a period of cleansing and cap control. WE need a style of play. The way the NBA is going there is a premium on speed. The three players I outlined--one for the front-court Mcgee or Randolph one for the back-court Westbrook represent a lot of what we don't have. By trading Lee we can can one in the front-court one in the back-court and perhaps get rid of one other contract[although I doubt it] If we trade Lee into the draft we don't have to deal with the cap issue. To me cap space and a high upside rookie>Lee. If we draft well over the next 2 years and end up keeping guys like Crawford Nate Chandler--perhaps find a couple of other guys--maybe give Patrick Obrien a chance in summer league --find someone in the second round--find players like we used to --not necessarily to be stars but to be chemistry pieces. Maybe we have the cap room to get two major league pieces to go along with what we have. If Marbury Randolph Curry etc.. make a playoff run--fine and dandy--but to build a long term contender that has a real chance of winning--you have to forget about 90% of what is here--try to constrain cap space or minimize it at all costs and go for upside in the draft and try to find OUR own stars as well.

I have mixed feelings about this. Lee brings more than a double double. He thinks on his feet, makes good decisions and plays a team game. You need guys like that. I'm not as big a fan as some here on the big men in this draft.